Motorvation 2005...

[xzotic]

OK, well I've posted my comments on my own forum - you can check it out here and then post back here, just saves me from repeating myself...

http://www.importscene.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?p=10261#10261

Thoughts people?

[Shaolin242]

motorvation is always pretty much bogan central isnt it? thats why all the tight jeans wearing flannel heads are there right Greggster??

[xzotic]

Hey dude! - yes, agreed but that doesn't answer my point - being what is the import community going to do to put on a decent show of the suppossed hard core import drivers there are out there.....when are imports going to make an impact on the car scene?....

...too many keyboard warriors and not enough action....!!

[HotAe92]

wats the point of going to a show like that and have all the bogans and trevheads laugh and carry on about 'rice burners'. Fair enough who gives a fuck what they say, but dont get me wrong, i love my imports, but as far as im concerned, auto salon is for imports, and motorvation is for 'muscle' heroes.

[xzotic]

Yes, but Autosalon caters for the show - where is the event for the go?....

A couple of years back there was a GTR that entered the motorvation night burnout comp. You can hear the trevs booing and carying on but then when the GTR successfully pulled off a four wheel burnout the sarcasim turned to cheers...

We saw a couple of awesome imports today, one being a rex with nitrous and full motec conversion yet was he on the track?...no... and why not.....

Again if Motorvation is not the event that imports should strut their power then what event is?

[Dim]

pfft who cares if its import or aussie or american for that matter ... alsong as there are cars perform that people have put thier time and effort into i am there. although i much prefer imports ill take motorvation over autosalon anyday purley because its more the go then the show.( well most of it anyway)

[cplagz]

something about designated spots not being allocated correctly then a waiting list of some sort *mutters*

[xzotic]

pfft who cares if its import or aussie or american for that matter ... alsong as there are cars perform that people have put thier time and effort into i am there. although i much prefer imports ill take motorvation over autosalon anyday purley because its more the go then the show.( well most of it anyway)

That's a fair comment...but I'd still like to see something in Perth that really shows off the Imports (on the go, other than drift)...there are so many candidates yet we can't seem to get them together for people that want to see just imports (much like the trevs just wanna see the Aussie 8's)....

I agree though that given the time and effort, any car is an awesome specticle where the time and effort has been put into it and I personally thought a lot of the 8's today were damn impressive but fark we are cutting ourselves short here...

[munchmunch]

motorvation was shit and is getting worse the cars are getting crap they used to only have nice cars now they let any p.o.s in just so 500 plus cars sounds good . as for import shows p.a.s has gone to shit what happened to all the driving events they had back at freo that was the shit (end rant ) any one see the 4dr rx3 full original car still had the plastics onn the door trims but the 13bt and 9 inch arnt factory and the turbs t04z rollerbearing (drool) i want one

[ED40]

yeah i was there today..
wondering where all the imports where?
How come no one put there cars in? and why? The v8 guys usually get in nice n early, maybe the import scene has to be a bit more keen.
Most of the people there appreciate a good import, but as i observed some bogans are absoulte fuckwits. My mate put his 33 in and had it parked next to his mates 10 second rotary. This bogan comes up and says to the rotary driver, "lift your bonnet so we can all laugh", guy in the rotary replies, "well what do u run?" "12 second pass ya wanker", nuff said, the rx3 runs a 10 so he laughed him off but it pissed me off coz there is no need for shit like that.

I think if u want respect from the bogans, imports need to be driven harder. Didnt see many making smoke at all..

Yes and im positive there were more imports last year then there was this year.... whats the go? i see more and more done up imports every day, surely tehre should of been more this year!!!!
WELL?!

[munchmunch]

the dude that owned that rx3 looked like a kickboxer i wouldnt say shit to him was he ?

[ED40]

if it was the blue one?
yes it was him then, although he was just laughin the bogan off.. woudlnt waste his time with them wankers like that..
:P

[Kandy_man]

After reading your imports forum page, i see what your trying to say and fully agree.
The only prob is.... where are the organisers for such an event? Im sure if you got it organised and enough info sent out it would be pretty big, but the fact is... like the PAS compact thingy, no one knew stuff all about it as it truely wasnt advertised enough...hell ppl were sayin " man, the car events are only what im going to PAS to see!!" yet little did they know.

I think if someone had the skills and funds to organise a Imports show ( somewhat like Hot Import Nights that the US has) it would be a great success............................. IF decent cars actually went. End of the day, ppl arent going to pay $$ to see cars they see on a cruise :werd:


Get the cars, get the funds and your onto something :werd:

[TJ]

We saw a couple of awesome imports today, one being a rex with nitrous and full motec conversion yet was he on the track?...no... and why not.....




because ramon just got the car back after a massive amount of work so why would he desire to go out on a track where he is hated and break something?

if you dont know your facts, dont make calls.

[TJ]

I think if u want respect from the bogans, imports need to be driven harder. Didnt see many making smoke at all..

Yes and im positive there were more imports last year then there was this year.... whats the go? i see more and more done up imports every day, surely tehre should of been more this year!!!!
WELL?!


ahh there was less imports this year then last.

if the guys where given any respect and allowed out to do a burnout it would be cool, plus imports arnt about smoke and burnouts, need to remember that. having said that, the burnouts i saw a few do where utter shit, lift your game!!

if bogans want more respect from import owners perhaps building a car that is used more then 3 times a year would be cool.... so many v8's there that come out for a show, do a lap , burnout, and then think it gives them the right to bag import owners, who usually drive them everyday. i say pffft to you

[TJ]

having said all that we do need a 2 day import based drag show shine event in wa

we need to get ideas going now.

[ED40]

i understand what ur saying imports arent all about smoke, but from my point of view motorvation is :) Most of the people are there to see the burnout comps and watching awesome cars lay strips and i just wish i could see more jap cars do the same!! I remember last year a certain nd4spd ripped some huge skids much to the crowds delight!!
Shame he wasnt there again..

[ED40]

also.. i think a uniformed car show would be good. Id like to see v8 cars take on a bit of drifting(good luck haha) and jap cars in burnout comps.. would be a good day.. but do we have a complex suitable for this type of stuff?

Autosalon is prolly the biggest import event but fuck, its so boring, i know alot of people would rather see them in action.. maybe you can get autosalon to introduce driving events agian?

[TJ]

my car never had a 3k stall converter or 9 inch, but still ripped some pretty good skids, if i had of kept it a week longer i would of shown you.

parts cost more, ppl are afraid to break shit, and afraid of being abused as a ricer at motorvation

[zeroyon]

Armmm how can i say this politly .....

Your heads in your Ass ?

As imports we were offered several events just to our own.
Sports compact "was" one of them. I say "was" becuase motorplex ran it last season and it was un-fortunatly a failure. So the series was not run this season.

This season we have 4+6+rotor which Antilag did a damn good job of getting people to. We had near on 30 cars entered. I believe there was around 70 cars on the day so we were about half the effort.

The next event this year for us is Drag combat. Again antilag will do a huge job of putting together the numbers of cars.

Complaining about motorvation being a trev fest is like moving in next door to a night club then months later trying to have it closed cos its noisy. You know whats what and no one is trying to hide the facts.

We all know motorvation is a V8 orientated event. It is a huge car event and an awesome thing for motorsport in WA. We should appreciate it for what it is and not try and change it.

I agree imports need to be out there more in the show .... we are offered our own events. It comes down to the other clubs(i believe antilag already does) supporting these events.

[MrMayhem]

Motivation is the biggest baddest show if you want to see more imports showing, competing your going to have to enter no crying it up, as for attendance in the "import/4 6 rotor" events yeah pretty much half of the last one organised were antilag entrants ......... get an antilag up ya!

Something that id like to add is a well done to "badged" Andrew Biffen for getting himself out there same for the few others today (dcieve r31power the r31 club guys etc) .... Badged nice hat did you steal it from royboy?

considering 2 evos several wrx I was surprised a EK holden won the go to whoa and a 32 coupe following second .... that was interesting. Nice work to the SW GSR for taking fastest slalom time..... I saw what you were doing on the line .... you attacked that hard !

I dont think neons and ricey stuff will go down well at motivation, HP driving performance and quality cars will be welcomed... and the odd promo girl

[RXXX7]

All i can say is 'good on ya badged.' gettin out ther strutting your stuff.

[RXXX7]

ohh yer. what would you guys think if we tried to get some kind of petition going?? An event for all the rice cars to rock up to the strip on a sunday for a trial, being able to use the drags, all the show bays.. all the facilties. and have it open to the public.
i think with all the people that come to anitlag.com forums, we would be able to get enough connections to be able to do something big... or at least something.

i know the main factor with the motorplex would be funding, but how many dedicated rice fans are out ther, that would come to a show to see rice burning tyres? think about it.. today, at least 10,000 X $25 a head= alot

You go ther to see rice, noones going to be boo'ing you off the strip, you'll feel a hell of a lot better about going ther, cause ther would be no flannelet wearing winni blue smoking mullet looking wankers..(so to speak).

an old friend of mine would be more than willing to help out. he knows the head honchos who run the motorplex. Des Alfirevich, he used to race speedway at the claremont show grounds (if anyone remembers him).

so that could be one link closer?.. some of you guys would no some important people in this bussines?..

what do you guys think?

[Cold Fusion]

"parts cost more, ppl are afraid to break shit, and afraid of being abused as a ricer at motorvation"

unfortunatly that comment is Tru, most importers Take care of there cars and keep them in immaculate condition, so doin a drag or burnout would kill there love. Unlike the other ppl who purposly do it up so they CAN do massive burnouts. i myself didnt go...im not thta much into holden and fords...there too alike (my opinoion)

[evilvl]

I don't understand this problem of entering imports into motorvation..why do you all care what bogans think anyway?

Why setup a seperate event for imports when the organisers of motorvation have already done all the work in organising an event, all you have to do is enter. The people complaining about lack of imports this year, did you enter your car? Or encourage your friends to do so?

[TJ]

of course they didnt, dont be silly , its just easier to bag then it is to do.

[Starion_turbo]

Perth = bogan central. :P jks.

Pity motorvation wasnt that good, but the reality is that the amount of imports in Perth are less than all the holden+fords that are around. Those guys are not interested the slightest in imports and I wouldnt be worried about it that much, i mean, these are the sort of people that think a VN SS is an engineering masterpiece- its the P plate bogans Mercedes Benz.

I know a few ppl that were entering motorvation in near stock V8s, just cos they could, so Id imagine it wudve been really poor.

Anyway, i think that the quality of the fords and holdens are poor - the majority are bloody kingswoods or utes anyway.

Over east, at least there are some decent looking and decent powered old school fords, holdens and tough valliants etc. And there generally not arrogant dickheads.

I heard my old car was at motorvation - did it do a good skid?

[datsqik]

I agree with most as it was a very poor turnout for the import guys.As mayhem says it is the biggest badest car show in the state and people should get there shit together and enter.There is allways going to be that element that give the imports a pasting but people need to forget about that and show them they can tear some tarmac.Badged did a big skid on the return road and the crowd was cheering until the officials came over and gave him an official warning with lots of finger pointing.Hey RXXX7 dont we allready have a day for imports that knowone enters or comes to watch because of lack of entries.You couldnt blame the motorplex for not wanting import days anymore as all they get is complaints from import owners wanting their own day and when they have one knowone turns up.People need to get behind the drag combat day or it will be axed aswell.

[magic1]

guys guys guys, we have been doing this for a while and yet when it comes to a trev fest we all start bitching. If your not there you cant change the numbers of cars with pushrods and cars with out. Ask yourself why you chose to drive a ricer, import, ect, Because you want to think smarter not harded. With this in mind when the trev gives you shit think smarter not harded like him. I nearly got punched but here is a few i used on saturday.

1. so its got 8 spark plugs
yeah v8 man
thats a big exhaust
yeah 2.5in all the way, pretty loud
so what your saying is its loud and slow!

2. i like your sticker "gone rotary hunting back in 8 seconds"
ta
whats your quickest time?
9.6sec
shouldnt you take that sticker off untill you run a 8 second pass?

3. after receiving abuse is brockas car saying 'does it help your ego to pick on a car with half the displacment and goes as fast as you trevmobile.'


get into them guys

[Starion_turbo]

Dont get me started......i demoralised almost every trev in mandurah when i lived there.

[zeroyon]

Magic1 and Starion,

I am sorry but your outlook on this annoys me.

I REALLY enjoyed motorvation. I think it was great !!
It was quite possibly the biggest number of cars entered I have ever seen.

APPRECIATE IT FOR WHAT IT IS .... if you cant .. dont go and dont winge about it !!

On the other note trev bashing is just as bad as the rice bashing. Rise above dudes. A fast car is a fast car no matter what the engine is under the hood. Even the show cars that dont go you must appreciate the effort that goes into them.


/end rant .....

[R32-GTR]

Last year there were alot more imports and seemed to be welcomed more by the trevs. This year i noticed typical fuckhead bogan attitude against the ricers and not many imports on show. I say we all get our shit together this year and have a nice big antilag stand next year with some decent cars in it. I for one will be there for sure and will be taking some spare tyres . Trev : "Show us a burnout ya fuckhead" Import Owner : No problems... second gear ... external gate bouncing off limiter... lovely. This is what needs to be done.

[Starion_turbo]

Just takin the piss butters- i respect there cars, would more if the owners had better attitudes.

Trevs dont understand external gate. Ive had many of my trev mates see cars popping off the limiter with external gates and they go - shit its sounds like its fuking broken, or what a dickhead sitting on the rev limiter for so long.

[[SPESHAL]]

because ramon just got the car back after a massive amount of work so why would he desire to go out on a track where he is hated and break something?

if you dont know your facts, dont make calls.

Like TJ said, car's not finished yet, plus if he doesn't want to go to the track his choice, his car.

[suburban]

firsty. $28 - not a fan

basically like others have said its always been a 'trev' show, just like summernats in the east. If you dont wanna see v8's and the like, dont attend. Other then the rape at the gate charge, i liked the event, enjoyed most of the cars for what they were = nice machines that someone has taken their time to create. Sure you get your fucktards givin us 'ricers' shit, but were doing the same back dont forget. So were just as bad really....

we had our own show and it was a failure. its been ages since ive seen the plex that packed and it was great. Was a shame there was no turbo cars in the burnout tho :)

[ED40]

Just takin the piss butters- i respect there cars, would more if the owners had better attitudes.
thats a huge generalisation...
i get heaps of shit for being a trev from ricers even tho i love ricers..
it goes both way, it just happens to be at motorvation, imports are minority so its easier to pick on them.

And yes i tried to get my all my import mates to enter, but only 1 of them did with a black r33 and he didnt even do fuck all with it. a little burnout on the start line? big deal. didnt even go in the driving events.

Its only the minority of trevs who have had a few beers that will try to bag an import, watching the slalom, everyone was in marvel at the wrxs and evo lancers take the course so fucken fast.

All ya have to do is laugh it off really, ur car picks up more chicks, handles better and goes just as hard... ya shouldnt really care what poor VB commo drivin trevs think aye. :) just get out there and suprise em how well it goes!!
:werd:

[B0BB0]

just ask em "what won outright hp last yr ?, a import ya fuckhead"


next yr should be the one for imports, i can see there being a rh9 stand with a few R's

[LNYMRKO]

Firstly, entry fee was quite ludacris. $28 is really getting pathetic. How much was entry last year?

Motorvation has always and always will be a V8 orientated event. There will always be a vast minority of imports entered, but that's all they will ever been in an event like Motorvation, a minority.

We all bag out V8's from time to time because it's funny to see VN's do big single legger burnouts through Fremantle and think they are Peter Brock, but an event like this, I'm sure everyone who goes (even import lovers) can respect the time, effort, and money that goes into the cars entered. Sure, there is always going to be some cars that you think "WTF is that doing entered?", but the majority are clean, tidy, nice, powerful cars which even import lovers can respect. If not, why bother going?

I don't think there will ever be a huge import turnout at an event like Motorvation, it's just not what Motorvation is. I had fun, and thought it was an awesome day. There was plenty of cars, plenty of people, and the atmosphere was awesome.

On a different note, Jamie and Ramon's cars (EXPLICIT & WRXRW) are fucking insane. Jamie, your car sounds so unbelivable hardcore, even at idle.

My pics will be uploaded soon.

Lenny.

[Smoked]

as you can see i have a 5 litre VN ,,, that will take anything that i do to it easily it just goes and goes and goes i can do burnouts all i want and it just takes it...i can ping the bastard off the limiter and itll sit there and take it all day long...well not all day but most of it :p now what you have to considerr is that to do the same burnout in your...say...r32 gtst you have to thrash the shit out of it otherwise it loses boost and u can possibly fuk up the burnout when that happens ( CORECT ME IF I AM WRONG IVE NEVER DONE A BURNOUT IN A GTST BEFORE its just an example). when u thrash it, it will die faster than my car simply cos theres more breakable bits eg turbos...im not biassed towards v8 cars at all i love turbos and im selling my car for one soon ...please tell me if you think im a wanker for saying that turbo cars die quicker

this is a reason why more bogans in there VK carby 5 litres do more burnouts because the car just takes it...maybe break a diff then 400 bucks and 2-3 hours later ur back on the road goin again....the turbos are also alot more complicated to fix and its more expensive...its easy to see now why the v8s are thrashed more

if im wrong and im a dickhead feel free to diss me :p

btw my VN has LSD so its permanent twins every time :D

[[RX2]]

Last year there were alot more imports and seemed to be welcomed more by the trevs. This year i noticed typical fuckhead bogan attitude against the ricers and not many imports on show. I say we all get our shit together this year and have a nice big antilag stand next year with some decent cars in it. I for one will be there for sure and will be taking some spare tyres . Trev : "Show us a burnout ya fuckhead" Import Owner : No problems... second gear ... external gate bouncing off limiter... lovely. This is what needs to be done.
i will be keen to enter the rx3 next year with antilag..... but i will be dropping it in fourth with external gate screaming like the ladies chasing lenny down the cafe strip in freo haha

[LNYMRKO]

Hahahahahaha.

[Corey]

im willing to enter the S13 in next year .... should be going a bit harder by then aswell :D :werd:

Cheers

Corey

[SimonR32]

ill enter next year :)

ill use tristans tires (will still have them, its only a year away) in the driving events... and the burnouts

[sil80rep]

mine should be finished next year. trevs want burnouts.... trevs will get burnouts.

[xzotic]

Kandy_man – Agreed dude, unfortunately Sports Compact WAS going to be the event for imports – but no interest = no more. Events obviously have to be commercially viable, I doubt others will follow quickly after looking at the failure of Sports Compact and that’s a big problem.

Teejay and Speshal – Most people walking around wouldn’t know Ramon’s situation – all they see is a hot Rex sitting in a tent… Anyway that wasn’t supposed to be a dig at Ramon, rather in general the small number of imports that where there didn’t participate (again bar the few exceptions) – So why bother going in the first place? Go to AutoSalon if you are just going to stick your car on display.

EDS040 – :werd:

Butters – Motorvation is a “Street Machine” event. Regardless of the magazine with the same name catering for Trevs it’s about street cars. Sorry but the last time I checked Jap cars are street cars. Secondly, all the events are geared in favor of imports. Imports should cream the Motorkhana, Slalom and the Go-Whoa events (although as Mr Mayhem pointed out imports even got beaten at these on Sat). It’s really only the burnouts that Import Drivers seem to have an issue with.

Mr Mayhem – Yeah full cred to Badged - he’s definitely on the next DVD. Agreed neons and ricey stuff won’t go down well at Motorvation after all it’s more about the go than the show so yes high powered imports PARTICIPATING would be the go.

RXXX7 – Dude read the posts re Sports Compact – That WAS the event you are suggesting. It failed – see comments above for Kandy_man.

Evilvl and Datsqik – Perfect – people shouldn’t give a sh*t what the trevs say, just enter the event IF that is the only decent event that WA Imports can strut their stuff in.

Lnymrko – “Motorvation has always and always will be a V8 orientated event” – as long as you keep saying it – it will be and that’s fine IF there was a decent comparable Import event – but there is not so why can’t the Motorvation format cater for it?

Anyway all this has got a little off track. My whole point in this was that this year Imports were down. So if imports aren’t going to attend Motorvation then where is WA’s import “GO” show….

Equalizer, Cerbera and Sil80rep all have the right idea…hopefully throughout the year the import community can plan a much bigger showing and get it to a standard higher than it was last year OR some other event is created to cater for some decent Import Action.

[Cake]

Motorvation was pretty good, but i did notice that the number of imports was definitely down (not complaining), seemed to be less than half of the amount there last year. Starion_turbo kim your 32 was driven very soft, didn't even come on boost during the super cruise, let alone do a burnout. This year was lacking the same atmosphere that last year's show had where the number of imports were up and it was a great mix of cars.

datsquik is right, sport compact was like a mini-motorvation for imports, complete with driving events, cant remember whether there was a burnout comp or not, or if nobody entered. number of entrants was very poor, so they scrapped it.

good on mello, nitschke for gettin on the snakepit also being daily driven non 8's, even if there were bogans yelling abuse non-stop, they quietened down when they made smoke. but at the end of the day nothing is going to sit there for 4 minutes and bake clouds in top gear quite like the 8's that are purpose built burnout cars. its not just about power in the burnout comp its also endurance. i was impressed though to see that VY LS1 one-tonner which seemed like a daily/work car smoke 3rd and some 4th until they popped. line lockers are also your friend. now hitting the wall and car catching on fire also win the crowd, not just shredding or popping tyres. i reckon a lot of them in the burnout comp had some setup with flammable fluid that they drip or spray onto the tyres to ignite.

Yes supercruise was lacking an RB or with ext gate, i think that is a sound that could also actually impress a trev that's not a V8. look forward to seeing Simons GTR there next year i know he wont be soft to it.

a few pics (http://www.dorifuto.net/events/motorvation_2005/images/)

also have video of most of the decent burnouts in the comps from saturday, will have them up online in about a week. haha flanno or blue singlet, i think everyone should wear one next year to be in the true spirit.

[MrMayhem]

Well then next year its game on even if its just the antilaggers alone it should be impressive enough

GO THE FLANNO !

[RXXX7]

xzotic. yer i havnt been in perth long enuff to no about the other stuff. reading the sports compact forums.. i take back what i said.

on the other hand. what are we doing?!?!.
NEXT year, we all have to chip in and go for the full mile. wer sitting here saying, that ther wer not enuff imports. if my car had been finished i definetaly would of entered. how many of us in this forum with GOOD cars, entered?

Motorvation 06 is one year away. lets all pull our fingers out and show the flannos wot we got!

[Shaolin242]

yeah external gates are the go....that ought to scare a few of them...

[Shaolin242]

http://www.dorifuto.net/events/motorvation_2005/images/mullet.jpg

this IS motorvation.

[RB20ZED]

ok my opinion the cost price for entry is very expencive i see 20-25 dollers a better deal worth looking at. And yes we need more imports but really do you wanna pay for a car that you know all about and that you see every weekend on a cruise. For eg most cars there yesterday that took my interest were american imports, such as corvettes mustangs ect now these being "rare" in aust make you wanna go over there and look try to say the same about a s13 or r33 and ya have a prob as i see them every day going to the shops ect theres nuthin in it for me to pay and see these. If they are hardcore go/show cars then yes i will spend the time and look at it. I definatly show my appreciation where its due as ramons wrx and explicit cars i spent with lenny over 1 hour talking to the owners in depth about the fine mods there cars had and we showed our appreciation. The quality of most cars there where far supperior to what we moddify (most) of our cars to and the detail and effort they put in is worth the money at the door to a point yes it would be nice to see alot more imports there but only if they are up to that quality. I had a mint day i think the best way to have fun is to get to know some of the owners there cruise around and have fun. Half my day was spent in the back of me mates 355 WB ute yellin out to the hotties ect i had a ball. Also going in the supercruise in one of the best classic cars (1957 chevy belair) i have ever been in was for me the highlight and for the owner of this imaculate car to do burnouts ect in it for me was beyong comprehension. We have our oppertunities to have our own event like this and most of us put in the effort and hard earned money to enter our cars but at the end of the day its really like a bbq at the plex with mates that ya know as we are all a tight bunch of people with a common interest that unfortunatly doesnt extend to the main car enthused audience. So if you dont like v8's or american mustle and beer drinking than dont go simple as that if you do like 1 of these things its worth the effort to go. Why not pay to see a car thats pulled out of the garage once a year to be viewed??????

My oppinion,if you dont like it then face the fact ur oppinions are wrong as mine are allways right lol ....

[LNYMRKO]

Lnymrko – “Motorvation has always and always will be a V8 orientated event” – as long as you keep saying it – it will be and that’s fine IF there was a decent comparable Import event – but there is not so why can’t the Motorvation format cater for it?Motorvation does cater for imports, its just V8 biased. If it didn't, there wouldn't be any imports in there at all. As I said, they will always be a minority at Motorvation.

[kermit]

i would prefer a track day to a show these days. i cannot remember the last time i went to these shows and went " WOW " at anything.usually see more interesting cars in the carpark. i wounld prefer a barbagallos trackday and see cars in action. burnouts are boring. they are like blonds.seen one , seen them all.


kermit

[Sully]

wow there is a lot of sunshine being blown up our arses today isn't there. apart from the whole trev spec event thing, why did no one enter this year?..... i'd say:
no1, how many of perths import "pride and joy" cars were in hundreds of little bits and pieces/not event ready at the time? quite a few from what i've been reading over the last few weeks. that makes a small problem for getting them out there doing big skids
no2, who organised it the import presence? tj and tristan can't organise everything. you should see the effort it takes to organise a decent cruise let alone a big arse event like this. i know, i organise 1 club and play a pretty big part in another club here in perth - one is a lot smaller than antilag and the other is the bmw car club of wa. events take a shiteload of time and effort, maybe a few other people pitch in a bit of time every now and then?
no3, trev abuse, at the end of the day no matter what car you drive you're going to get shit. i drive a beemer (wanker mobile), occasionally a mini (poofter car..... turns well apparently) some of my best mates drive hotted up imports (rice burners), other mates drive warmed over trev mobiles (well..... trev mobile) who cares if you get shit, as long as it doesn't wind up in a punch up its all part of the fun and games of the car scene.

in short, get off your arses and organise shit EARLY for the next one.
end of rant.

[TJ]

its offiicially game on for next year

i was in nicks hr31 today [dcieve] when it dropped some killer burnouts today... bought back some pride for the import boys, as did a black supra doing a big one on the actual track.... whoops what was me!
anyhow

if you want to prove imports are the way to go, tell me now. im entering this week for sure.

[weekend_hero]

incase anyone saw this message on the importscene forum:


Those that may have read the posts from "weekend_hero" that were here previously may notice that these posts have been deleted. That person has been banned from this forum for making inappropriate and defamatory comments which will not be tolerated.

It's a shame but this is a public place and it's just inappropriate at best and juvenile at worst

AT NO TIME were my comments "Juvenile" or "inappropriate" - unless you consider questioning import scene or there motives, or offering your opinions.

i apologise for putting this here, but as i have been banned from there forum, i have no way to defend myself.

i have a copy of my first response, import scenes reply and my response which im happy to forward to anyone who wishes to read it - i wont post it here incase its considered "defamatory" by import scene standards.

[TJ]

unless you give us a run down i consider the post useless

[awills14]

Unfortunately as i have said on other forums motorvation has turned into another burnout comp. Which is just completely v8 aussie car baised as most have as much grip as a dog on polished floor boards. Many of the crowd who although are very passionate and love cars, have an IQ no bigger than their shoe size and dont know much about cars. I just think It needs more driving events (spear a spud and autokhana again etc), there is the space and crowds and ticket price to facilitate it, so why not?

This should keep everybody more entertained.
But enough bitching wheres next years entry form.

[weekend_hero]

edited by tj: sorry dude but id prefer you dont take up shitfights from elsewhere on here

feel free to post other constructive stuff here , but asides from that dont need this here.

cheers

[DCIEVE]

Not sure where everyone gets this anti jap thing from, I didnt here a single 'jap crap' comment the time I was there. It is in my opinion by far the best show in WA, where else can you show your car, camp and hit the piss, and cruise around in front of thousands of people?
Suffered some a/l problems saturday but was able to get into it proper on Sunday, the only other import having a proper go was the blue silvia which was disapointing but had an awesome time regardless.

[xzotic]

Teejay - please remove this crap from Weekend Hero - he didn't include his first attacking post here for the full picture and looking back at his other posts on Import Scene they have all be sarcastic and digging. No one needs to be bothered with this sort of Sh*t. - Let's get back to the topic in hand.

[xzotic]

housekeeping issit, back to topic lah

[Liana-]

i had fun!

[Shaolin242]

edited by tj

nothing personal just clearing all shitfight off topic at greggs request.

[TJ]

all i would like from someone , anyone, is pics of dcieve doing his burnouts today

pm me here or email me please

[weekend_hero]

edited by tj

topic keeping housecleaning, nothing personal

[TJ]

dudes, lets get back onto topic, or ill delete all these posts

[BaDgEd_S13]

ppl who say that motovation needs more imports, well u can only blame ur selves. i know wat nice cars are out there and wernt in the show, but hay stuff does come up.
maybe try and get ur forms in early next year so things can get a little more organized.

heaps of fun had by me :)
cheers guys for all the cred much appreciated.

andrew

[Emancipator]

Badged has hit it on the head... and should have been hit on the head for his efforts on Sat nite :)... at least it was infront of the Stone stand!

We got 8 cars as a club in for MV, and booked in september, no worries with "waiting lists" just get shit happening NOW for NEXT YEAR.

My question is however.. what happened to SAU and SilviaWA? They are huge clubs and had the potential to dominate at the same level as CCCWA. Didnt Silwa win awards for there stand last year? with the spa, projector and all the shit they had or was that PAS? At any rate where where they? 3 cars between CELICA and Eunos clubs? Same goes for SAU.

At the end of the day (weekend) i had an absolutely fucking brilliant time.

Yea it really shits me that the 180 got boo-ed off the snake pit, and the comment that import shit costs more doesnt really hold... im sure once u add the cost of chroming your Supercharger every time u blow one isnt cheap :P

Brent.

PS we were sure to inform Calaisturbo of just what "import" motor was pushing them around!

[R32-GTR]

I agree next year is game on for imports. Maybe all the big clubs need to get together and have a meeting of some sort. A year will come very quickly and we need to start organising it now . Poor R is going to get fuking punished.

[HotAe92]

alright this is the way i see it. I've attended events like Motorvation as well as 4+6+rotary dragwars and autosalon. events like dragwars get creamed in attendence by events such as Motorvation. Like most of u's are saying, wat we need is to have a shitload of import competitors next year, but wat i think motorvation lacks is drags. Seriously, who wants to see burnouts being repeated on the same pad every 10mins, instead, have 8's against imports on the strip. That would piss alot of trevs off 4 sure.

[poombah]

Motorvation is a Trev event, pure and simple.

Admittedly there were sfa imports there, but AFARCC had r32 GTR, r33 gtr, Cefiro, Soarer, 2 Supras (admittedly both boongas), S15, WRX, Evo II Lancer, 180, sprinter.. i mean apart from the s15 and wrx (both locals) the rest are all imports..

Go-Whoa went to the r33 gtr and slalom to evo II, we got jipped win 2 of the 3 driving events (they actually count the burnout comp a driving event) and didnt even manage to squeeze a 3rd place for club.

Perth WRX put on a decent show, 4wd habib monsters as far as the eye can see, i saw a cressida with a 1uz in it (v8 quad cam from celsior/soarer), nice Ra60 celica (i think), there were 2 or 3 mark 4's up in the far far far end as single entry.... then there was dodgey dan the parts man in a Sil, Jai had his ceffy in.. there were imports there..

..when you think about it trevation _IS_ called trevation for a reason... Business at the front, party at the back, flannel, ungroomed beards, XXXX and 50yo women with husky voices and visible G's... you cant change that.. but what you can do is hit'em where it hurts... last year we desicrated a XD Falcon station wagon for our cruise car, speed stripes up the middle, FPV on the seats.. sik wing on the back, XR rims on it..

this year we topped it, jimmah donated his VN 5 litre 5 speed that he managed to wedge between two trucks a few years ago as our cruise car, him and denver put a few months worth of weekends into jazzing it up into our chopped top cruise mobile, painted monaro yellow.... and it got a point accross...

Comments like : "oh man, its actually a 5 litre... oh and its a 5 speed... SACRILEGE!"

Ricer Burners 1, Stubbies & Wife Beater 0 :)

- Russ

PS I dont know what the deal was but on every supercruise i went on i was specifically told not to do a burnout or else, and that we were only allowed a 'power take off'... obviously its orrite for trevs to do what they friggin like.. or maybe they thought the old battleboat was too boong to lay a skid and were saving me the embarrasment :P

[wadragracing]

I don't post often on here so I'll reintroduce myself, I'm Luke Nieuwhof and I am heavily involved in the media side of things with the drags (Drag Racing column in The West, www.wadragracing.com, Dragster Australia, DRAGS Magazine,).

I have also just bought a 2.5TT Soarer, so I'm interested in the import scene obviously!

As has been pointed out a myriad of times already, participation is the key. There is nothing stopping a bunch of imports entering the show, only the willingness of the owners. If there are no imports at the show, then you lead it to become a V8 only show! At least they show up in force.

Although I wasn't in the thick of the 'trevs' (ie next to the fence on the burnout bad), I was in the crowd most of the time and didn't here anything derogatory about imports that showed off in the Supercruise. What I did notice however (apologies to all those who took the time to enter) was that the imports really weren't doing anything too spectacular. I think I saw one Skyline do a half decent burnout and that was about it.

The philosophy of Motorvation is not just seeing cars but seeing them move, if you guys want more imports then you need to get some out there that can do a decent skid and generally make themselves known.

On the topic of a specific event for imports, I'm reiterating points already made but the sport compact events Kwinana has had haven't been terribly well supported. I'm not sure what the reason for this is, but you need participation to make for a great event. Look at the Queensland Jamboree, heaps of support, heaps of crowd, heaps of sponsor and trader support and it is a fantastic event.

So the blame doesn't lie with management of the track or the fans who turn up, it lies with the import scene itself. Until more people are willing to get their cars to events like these, the scene will continue to be minority-based.

Your next opportunity is Drag Combat in April, get out and support it (Antilag seems to have been pretty good at this). Get all your mates there and turn it into a great event.

[TJ]

if we smash 30 or 40 odd cars in, they will sit up and take notice, regardless if they like it or not.

[poombah]

Not sure where everyone gets this anti jap thing from, I didnt here a single 'jap crap' comment the time I was there. It is in my opinion by far the best show in WA, where else can you show your car, camp and hit the piss, and cruise around in front of thousands of people?
Suffered some a/l problems saturday but was able to get into it proper on Sunday, the only other import having a proper go was the blue silvia which was disapointing but had an awesome time regardless.

I copped a few taunts for driving "another fucking silvia"..... i have no idea how the fuck you can mix up a mark3 supra with a silvia :P

Some dude came up again and said my car sounded good launching at the supercruise.. i felt like id let him down by not doing a decent burnout... the marshalling people kept saying "no burnouts no burnouts" everytime...

I tried 2 in the snake pit... but its fucking sticky as... didnt have enough nuts to try and grab for second... 2 gearbox rebuilds in 13 months :P

- Russ

[TOPGUN]

hi, my names Ashley, yeah i was der at motorvation i was driving the black aero top supra!! I agree that all the import pple should organise a day were it is show, shine and drag racing!! Becuase even today as i wa son the super cruze i had guys bag my car saying "Go home no one heer want's to c ur car"! The only pple that liked my car were the girlz lol! But their needs to be another event like "Drag Combat"[U] at the motorplex so we can show our cars off, be proud of it and get good comments from the crowd!

But u can't say shows like Auto Salon because i competed in it in 2004 and at the end of the show when they gave out the trophies nearly all of them when't to all the posh cars like BMW, Lexus and mercades!! Their was hardly any real imports that had actually wone anything!!

"So yeah i am 100% in supporting any event that promotes imports in W.A!!

[TJ]

I don't post often on here so I'll reintroduce myself, I'm Luke Nieuwhof and I am heavily involved in the media side of things with the drags (Drag Racing column in The West, www.wadragracing.com, Dragster Australia, DRAGS Magazine,).

I have also just bought a 2.5TT Soarer, so I'm interested in the import scene obviously!

As has been pointed out a myriad of times already, participation is the key. There is nothing stopping a bunch of imports entering the show, only the willingness of the owners. If there are no imports at the show, then you lead it to become a V8 only show! At least they show up in force.

Although I wasn't in the thick of the 'trevs' (ie next to the fence on the burnout bad), I was in the crowd most of the time and didn't here anything derogatory about imports that showed off in the Supercruise. What I did notice however (apologies to all those who took the time to enter) was that the imports really weren't doing anything too spectacular. I think I saw one Skyline do a half decent burnout and that was about it.

The philosophy of Motorvation is not just seeing cars but seeing them move, if you guys want more imports then you need to get some out there that can do a decent skid and generally make themselves known.

On the topic of a specific event for imports, I'm reiterating points already made but the sport compact events Kwinana has had haven't been terribly well supported. I'm not sure what the reason for this is, but you need participation to make for a great event. Look at the Queensland Jamboree, heaps of support, heaps of crowd, heaps of sponsor and trader support and it is a fantastic event.

So the blame doesn't lie with management of the track or the fans who turn up, it lies with the import scene itself. Until more people are willing to get their cars to events like these, the scene will continue to be minority-based.

Your next opportunity is Drag Combat in April, get out and support it (Antilag seems to have been pretty good at this). Get all your mates there and turn it into a great event.


you have summed it up perfectly... now that you have a import i expect to see alot more of you around here Luke

good work on joining the dark side ;) hehehe

but everyone read and heed that post. its the best one thus far

[SimonR32]

ill be giving the 89 SHTR hard limiter treatment next year :)

[Denver]

We saw a couple of awesome imports today, one being a rex with nitrous and full motec conversion yet was he on the track?...no... and why not.....


Probally cause its only been running in that config for ahhhh all of 48 hours before motorvation, so hes had no time to get used to the car with bucketloads more power than he had previously..

same as jamies explicit, its only been going a few days, so he hasn't had time to get used to it..

both explicit and wrxrw have been off the road for about 10 months so its kinda eays to understand why they didn't feel like hitting the competition stuff this weekend

[fizz]

I had an awesome time at moto,
I saw a soarer rev it up a few times behind the truck load of hot chicas and the bov got the heads turning, was sweet mate ;)

as u guys have all been saying there wernt too many imports, but was still good to stick my head in the ones that were there, and how awesome that the evo2 won that event, ive got a 94Lancer CC ;)

I think its good that the imports stay out of the burnout comps, coz it gets boring after the frist 2 skids and imports are hot beasts that zoom with style, not just smoke it up. If there is an event were imports take on the big V8's, and then a good few track and drift races, ill pay $28 for that no probs at all...

all in all was a good weekend and trevs arnt so bad, my older bro's one after all....

Fizz

[mc68]

Teejay and Speshal – Most people walking around wouldn’t know Ramon’s situation – all they see is a hot Rex sitting in a tent… Anyway that wasn’t supposed to be a dig at Ramon, rather in general the small number of imports that where there didn’t participate (again bar the few exceptions) – So why bother going in the first place? Go to AutoSalon if you are just going to stick your car on display.

for some Motorvation isnt JUST for the cars and driving, as nug, paul and tj has already said...the car is hot from the wok...so hes not used to it..

MV is also a place to catch up with mates, as they will -always- make time for it...and i think the trevs ad character to the event...cop the flack on the chin, and give it back to them... :flipa:

http://cccwa.rzepecki.no-ip.com/motorvation05/images/R0012025.jpg

the words didnt stop when we were pushing wrxrw...but, so what.. :squint:

[Denver]

And to add my two cents into it..

as a person who's competed every year since its moved to kwinana, except for this year, you'll ALWAYS, and i mean always, get some dickhead bogan who'll give a bit of 'take your rice rocket heap of shit home'.. its the way it is, and lest face it, the import scene is no different, don't tell me you wouldn't be the first to dish out a bit of, 'take mummys car home', to some bogan doing a single legger in his vp, with the p plates on display..

That said, the true enthusiasts, and i mean the hot rodders, the guys who spend month and months hand crafting a car in the garage, are really really reasonable guys, because they be some of the first guys to stop and swing a head under your bonnet to scope out just what it is you've done, and generally talk to you about it, and then use those little snippets of info, to go and do something else to there ride.. To me its what its all about, checking to see how others do it, and apply it yourself to your car..

And this is pretty broad accross the range its only a small portion of the trev crew who are complete noobs, if you take the time to talk to the guys, instead of just ignoring them, you'll see they are the same as you, an enthusiast...

Anyway, to the lack of imports, well it happens, a couple yrs back afarcc had 40 cars alone in its stand, and there was also the rollaboyz, and some of the other import clubs at the time entered, but as times gone a bit and the number of total entries has been incresed, the ratio of imports to v8's and stuff has dropped, so really, just get everyone into gear, and mkae sure you get entered early next year, there was some 600 entries this year, and i doubt that number will increase for next year, so an early entry is the best way to guantee you get in..

Do it as a club, try and do as many of the events as you can, and you never know, you might get top club..

Now, the burnout comp..

Sad fact of life time, an import, will never ever win, not at motorvation...

few reasons, mainly, the crowd is the biggest one, unless you can rip off a massive top gear, smoke bellowing off the tyres from the word go burnout, you don't stand a chance, see second reason..

reason two, the really serious guys buil the cars purely for burnouts, your looking at motors that will sit on 7 thousand rpm, for up to 5 minutes, or until the bags pop, not boil too quickly, and have atleast 400+hp and mountaisn of torque, as you need lots of torque to keep those tyres turning at 150+ km at hour when doing a bunrout..

Ideally, if you want to try out, never use a turbo car, they get too hot, to fast when standing still, intake temps go up, and you'll just detonate the motor to death.. IMHO the best setup, is for an example this car http://files.franzonline.net/images/2005-01-15-Motorvation/mini-DSC03674.JPG

It runs on methonal, which burns nice and cool, is super charged, has massive amounts of power, and instantly turns the tyres in top gear hassle free.. oh and it does the best methonal flames when jabbing the gas...

so if you seriously wanna get an import into the burnout comp finals, head in that direction, forget all about turbo's, as it'll be your downfall i feel..

anyhoo, get thinking for next year, we already have been in relation to what to do with the cruise car, we hjad so many people looking at it, if you can afford to hack one together, do it, its worth it for every thumbs up you get..

[DCIEVE]

They were telling us no burnouts at both points, they didnt give a shit if you did though

[OmEg_A7]

I thought that blown68 monaro caught on fire last year and had to stop?

[JME]

I've entered MV since 2001. Yes you get all sorts and thats the attraction. The import entry this year was minimal but still represented so not all is lost. Easiest way to get back at those 'get a real car comments'.....simple....ENTER and be proud...the more that enter the harder it is to bag.

Regarding MV tho, the standard for entry's dropped significantly this year and i think thats the problem. But its MV take it or leave it, either way i'll keep flying the flag!

Jme

[Skrappy]

I had my car in at motorvation (Blue 2003 Corolla). Was next to the celicas which were next to the silvia wa/antilag stand which had all of 3 cars. The guy in a gold soarer told me how antilag and that entered more cars but didnt get accepted. I wasnt impressed with the organisation, would have been nice to have a good mix of all cars but I guess it wasn't meant to happen.

I did what I went there for though and won two trophies in the sound off. :boink:

[BaDgEd_S13]

good stuff on winning man, i put my car in the db sound off and got 129db from one 12inch. is that good?

[Skrappy]

good stuff on winning man, i put my car in the db sound off and got 129db from one 12inch. is that good?

Yup 129db isnt bad. The red celica next to you got 119db and the silver/grey celica got 131db from a type S 12' sub. Congrats on the score to you. Awesome tyre marks leading to your car bay as well. hahaha.

I got the award for best boot install and best SPL in street class B, im guessing you got put in Street class A. What sub are you running?

Loved your car, looked really nice. Awesome to see it run well too. Did you do a dyno run?

[Joe]

MV = very V8 biased, both from the organisers, the entrants, and the crowd.

For a start, Jme got told by the head honcho that EXPLICIT was too loud to be entered in MV, and it had to be muffled. It IS muffled, and I can think of at least 20 other cars that were louder than that, but they all had V8s in them, so they obviously were overlooked.

Adam couldnt get his Civic on the dyno, because the guys at Formulatech said to us "We arent dyno'ing a FWD".....so what were they dynoing then? No 4wds, no FWDs, so if you had anything but a RWD, you missed out!!! We went to the race control office a few times, and got the run around each time....Ray Treasure was not interested in helping us, and he obviously doesnt give a shit about anything but V8s...after all, he is the head trev. Adam eventually got it on the dyno after a lot of jumping up and down at the Formulatech guys, and won a trophy for it.

We copped lots of comments from trevs, mainly copping abuse on the super cruise, copping abuse cos I couldnt do burnouts, and all the stupid comments from people who dont know any better.

When we were cruising in one of the WRXs, we got told to keep a lid on it, or risk getting kicked out, even though we had done nothing at all....but that didnt stop the hundreds of knuckle scraping trevs in their boongadores doing burnouts all over the pits, with security turning a blind eye most of othe time!

Either way, PPCC will be putting a massive contingent of cars in next year (we had 12 this year, half were imports, half werent), and I think that every other import biased club should also do the same...then we can show them, as a whole import scene, who is boss.

[cplagz]

I wonder what their reactions to entering euros will be :) Im in next year just to stir some people up!!

[Skrappy]

MV = very V8 biased, both from the organisers, the entrants, and the crowd.

For a start, Jme got told by the head honcho that EXPLICIT was too loud to be entered in MV, and it had to be muffled. It IS muffled, and I can think of at least 20 other cars that were louder than that, but they all had V8s in them, so they obviously were overlooked.

Adam couldnt get his Civic on the dyno, because the guys at Formulatech said to us "We arent dyno'ing a FWD".....so what were they dynoing then? No 4wds, no FWDs, so if you had anything but a RWD, you missed out!!! We went to the race control office a few times, and got the run around each time....Ray Treasure was not interested in helping us, and he obviously doesnt give a shit about anything but V8s...after all, he is the head trev. Adam eventually got it on the dyno after a lot of jumping up and down at the Formulatech guys, and won a trophy for it.

We copped lots of comments from trevs, mainly copping abuse on the super cruise, copping abuse cos I couldnt do burnouts, and all the stupid comments from people who dont know any better.

When we were cruising in one of the WRXs, we got told to keep a lid on it, or risk getting kicked out, even though we had done nothing at all....but that didnt stop the hundreds of knuckle scraping trevs in their boongadores doing burnouts all over the pits, with security turning a blind eye most of othe time!

Either way, PPCC will be putting a massive contingent of cars in next year (we had 12 this year, half were imports, half werent), and I think that every other import biased club should also do the same...then we can show them, as a whole import scene, who is boss.

PPCC had a great show of cars as far as I was concerned. The dyno was the most disapointing thing of all time, I was told that the dyno couldnt even do fwd so its sad to know that they were lying to people just to avoid reading a fwd car.

I thought the civic would get the most shit of trevs at the show.. walking past it I just kept thinking how the guy has balls to enter it. Max respect to him though for doing it. Pitty it has to come down to 'oh that guy is brave for entering his car' at a car show.

Security turned a blind eye to a few people, but tramped down on the commodores on sunday and kicked quite a few out.

Generally it was an okay show, the trevs didn't really give as much shit as they have been known to give. Its just a pitty that the organisers seemed incredibly biased to anything that wasnt a V8 or a 'classic'.

[Brodsta]

well that was an interesting read, heaps of good points.

but now i really cant be bothered replying, or this thread will never end

pics up soon.

[JME]

BRING BACK PETER PIKE.....The guy has respect for all types and has people skills, something the 'new' batch of organisers lack in a major way...

Jme

[TJ]

mass respect goes out to perth wrx who won best club

awesome cars, great display, all round awesome bunch of guys who had nothing but good stuff to say all weekend, even chatted freely when obviously busy

well done guys

[Brodsta]

http://www.driveline.net.au/gallery.php?gallery_id=17

PHOTOS ONLINE

[muniom]

yer i was in badgers car and they told us no burnouts, fuck that shit he ripped it up well good!

[Sidewayz]

Just a bit of a run down for complaints about not wanting to put the FWD's on the dyno.

Motorvation was poorly organised as far as events were concerned. Formula Tech brought their $100,000 dyno there, it was up to the motorvation organisers to 'organise' an extra monitor/tv for us to use if we were to dyno fwd cars. The reason that an extra monitor/tv was needed is that the dyno operator sitting in the car would have no clue what readings were appearing on the monitor and would have no clue if the engine was about to reach failure since the monitor is behind him over his left shoulder when dynoing FWD cars, when normally it'd be right next to the drivers side door for RWDs. Yes the monitor could be moved, but all power would have to be switched off to the dyno and cords unplugged just to be able to relocate it. Which is a hell of a lot of hassle just for one or two FWD cars, when 99% of cars waiting to be dyno'd were RWDs.
On top of having to relocate half the equipment around to the other side of the dyno, there's also the annoyance of having to strap them down - which involves cross-strapping just to be able to keep the sucker still.

So those two reasons were why FWD cars were getting turned away, when the vast majority of cars on the list were RWD's there was not much incentive to stop right in the middle of the dyno comp to change around equipment just for 1 or 2 cars then have to relocate everything back to where it was.

For all the complainers keep in mind that Formula Tech were given very short notice to get ready for this dyno comp and there was very little instructions and input given by the Motorvation organisers.

Motorvation's not v8 biased, any sort of car can compete in any event - it just means that some of the show-ponies in Imports might have to get there car dirty instead of just letting it sit there and look pretty. I find it amusing how all the import guys jump up and down about how Motorvation is so V8 biased, then what is Autosalon??? There's hardly any 'Trevs' competing there. I love imports and I love muscle cars, but it seems that the 'Trevs' are a bit more passionate about enjoying/using there cars. It’s up to you guys to change that.

[BaDgEd_S13]

Yup 129db isnt bad. The red celica next to you got 119db and the silver/grey celica got 131db from a type S 12' sub. Congrats on the score to you. Awesome tyre marks leading to your car bay as well. hahaha.

I got the award for best boot install and best SPL in street class B, im guessing you got put in Street class A. What sub are you running?

Loved your car, looked really nice. Awesome to see it run well too. Did you do a dyno run?

im runnin a type S 12' in a sealed box. the amp i am usin is very poor will have to upgrade to a flash one soon. street a i was in. i was still tryin to figure out my deck also so maybe if it was tuned right might of got an extra db coz i got like 129.8 or somthing

[JME]

Motorvation's not v8 biased, any sort of car can compete in any event - it just means that some of the show-ponies in Imports might have to get there car dirty instead of just letting it sit there and look pretty. I find it amusing how all the import guys jump up and down about how Motorvation is so V8 biased, then what is Autosalon??? There's hardly any 'Trevs' competing there. I love imports and I love muscle cars, but it seems that the 'Trevs' are a bit more passionate about enjoying/using there cars. It’s up to you guys to change that.


:werd:

[MattyP]

Here is a handful of images from the show:
http://www.cheekei.net/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=19
The rest will be put up on another site very shortly (will let you know)

[gerrin]

"parts cost more" i know most of the guys doing the burn out comps and i bet you they have spent more money on the v8's than you might think but if you want to win you have to kill your car engine or pannels the crowd dont care. i own fords and its just as hard for me to get a fair go in the snake pit cause its not a vn commodore or torrana.
look at drag combat 2 cars for the burn out 1 nissan and 1 LH 308.
i like anything that goes hard but the problem is everybody is one eyed. trevs hate rice and rice hates trevs ? .
That Ek that won is a mate of mine 400+ cube chev V8 with a trans braked glide .
also Tj's quote needs a 5 grand stall and 9 inch for burn outs pig bum i dont have a 5 grand stall and still run a borg warner diff just like your skyline and it live's 4 years 100's of burn outs and 12 sec pass's .
so best way to get up them is to go hard and show em you deserve your place in the show

[gerrin]

BRING BACK PETER PIKE.....The guy has respect for all types and has people skills, something the 'new' batch of organisers lack in a major way...

Jme
welli have to disagree on this one MV has gone down hill fast .the new guy Ray Treasure is heaps better i have raised most of the point you guys have raised with him and he thinks the same its gone to the dogs and things have to change. He took over to late this year to do anything also the event was start buy the perth street machine club i think which are still the main people behind the event which are mainly yes you guest it commodore owners.
with over 600 cars entered your never going to make everbody happy

[Emancipator]

I had my car in at motorvation (Blue 2003 Corolla). Was next to the celicas which were next to the silvia wa/antilag stand which had all of 3 cars.

I did what I went there for though and won two trophies in the sound off. :boink:

Hey... WHO WAS ON YOUR LEFT BOY-O?! :wave:

Congrats on your dB drag racing efforts! (Just dont rev that damn thing to redline again! :) )


BTW: TJ did you ever manage to recover the pics from Sat?

[[RX2]]

http://www.dorifuto.net/events/motorvation_2005/images/mullet.jpg

this IS motorvation.
now thats a quality mullet.. there is a web site mullets.com or some thing, you should be putting it on there.

[wadragracing]

Wow, promotor bashing, I almost thought this was a drag racing forum for a second!

You've got to give Ray a fair go, remember he only came into the job in late November and this is the first time he has ever had to be involved with anything like this. And also as pointed out, the Motorplex aren't the sole ones involved.

Show ponies are quite welcome to be involved as far as I know, they have that big marquee there remember. It would have been good to see a few more imports in there. Good on the ones that had their cars in there.

Anyhow, I think the import community should resolve to support Drag Combat as much as they can. This is YOUR event, with a complete absence of 'trevs', so get behind it.

[MissenLinx]

http://www.antilag.com/v2/index.php?section=gallery30
Taken by - Miss TJ

[Brockas]

I had an awesome time at moto,
I saw a soarer rev it up a few times behind the truck load of hot chicas and the bov got the heads turning, was sweet mate ;)

cheers mate. I was doing what i could, but unfortunately didn't have any burnout tyres on so i couldn't make f*ck all smoke. I have one video of me doing a smallish burnout off the line but nothing special, still i will put it up soon.

Considering i put my entry in months ago, i got rewarded with no driving events by the admin. Although paying for them and registering, my name was on none of the lists for anything.

Trev comment of the weekend was a classic. Within an hour of the gates opening on saturday morning, popped my bonnet to turn up the boost a little, Trev comes along for a look, screws up his face and says:
"what the f*** do u have all those pipes for? my car doesn't have any of those pipes and i bet it makes more power than this rice piece of sh*t"
me-->"and what car would that be?"
Trev-->"Gemini mate, pure aussie power"
me-->"stock issit?"
Trev-->"yeah"
me--> "riiiight....just f*ck off aye, i think i hear a dingo eating your baby"

It was quite comical at the time, especially because i don't think he actually got it. Maybe you had to be there.....

[DCIEVE]

Fuck i must be the only one who think they did a good job. the quality of cars has dropped but other than that i thought the weekend was top notch.

[TJ]

i had a great time but i wish i saw more imports

simple

next year........... :)

[Skrappy]

Fuck i must be the only one who think they did a good job. the quality of cars has dropped but other than that i thought the weekend was top notch.

Good job and well organised? No

Fucking great time? Yes!!


Emancipator I think there were some Charades or something like that on my left? :lol: Nah you guys had a good turnout though. Don't you like hearing my valves almost pop on the little rolla? haha.

And Badged, you should be able to get another 2db out of that sub yet. 129 for a type S isnt too great, they should be able to get up to 132 (if tuned perfectly) or at least high 131. I have two type S subs. New amp and messing around with the headunit tuning settings might be in order.

[mc68]

Trev comment of the weekend was a classic. Within an hour of the gates opening on saturday morning, popped my bonnet to turn up the boost a little, Trev comes along for a look, screws up his face and says:
"what the f*** do u have all those pipes for? my car doesn't have any of those pipes and i bet it makes more power than this rice piece of sh*t"
me-->"and what car would that be?"
Trev-->"Gemini mate, pure aussie power"
me-->"stock issit?"
Trev-->"yeah"
me--> "riiiight....just f*ck off aye, i think i hear a dingo eating your baby"

It was quite comical at the time, especially because i don't think he actually got it. Maybe you had to be there.....

i dont really know, but arent gemini's isuzus??? :dizzy:

[GTREA]

Looks like everything been pretty much covered in this thread...but FTR

Yes..I heard someone call out to me "You want Fried Lice with that..take it home dickhead" whilst driving thru the crowd.......But did'nt take offence being as my car is a totally standard Australian delivered car (only with 2 x the factory HP) who's the idiot..? no point getting worked up.

No...I will not and never will enter my car in the burnout comp to impress a few thousand people that really only want to see you hit the wall or Blow something up...nah..as has been said i'll leave that to the V8 Boys there better at it

Yes...I had a great time, I knew what I was getting involved in and love mixing it up with the Street Machines..Rodders..Muscle cars..Imports etc where else can you do that?

In the end my main 'Motorvation' for going was to win the Slalom event!...in the end I ended up 4th (The 1st RWD vehicle) so was definately out there giving it a go for the Jap boys :boink:

But one of the highlights of the weekend for me was probably a 7 year old boy that was looking at my car and said "Is this a 1989 Skyline GTS?" to which he was correct and I asked how he knew that! (As most adults dont!) to which he replied "I always buy Skylines in Gran turismo on Playstation...I love Skylines" So I took him and his Dad for a spin in it during the supercruise layed a few lines and gave it some stick down the track to which he had the Hugest Grin :D

[Brockas]

i dont really know, but arent gemini's isuzus??? :dizzy:

i would be surprised if he could even spell 'gemini'.... :shake:

[suburban]

But one of the highlights of the weekend for me was probably a 7 year old boy that was looking at my car and said "Is this a 1989 Skyline GTS?" to which he was correct and I asked how he knew that! (As most adults dont!) to which he replied "I always buy Skylines in Gran turismo on Playstation...I love Skylines" So I took him and his Dad for a spin in it during the supercruise layed a few lines and gave it some stick down the track to which he had the Hugest Grin :D

you champ :)

wonder how many people would go out of their way to do that... not many i bet :)

well done, kid would have been stoked :)

[BaDgEd_S13]

last year denver got on the pad and showed wat a jap car could do, big upz to him!

[ED40]

well done psi GTS...
i was droolin over ur car the whole weekend.

just talked to my mate who entered His R33, he left half way through Sunday and swore he would never go to motorvation again. He copped so much shit it wasnt funny. Its a fucken shame i reckon. :(

[Denver]

last year denver got on the pad and showed wat a jap car could do, big upz to him!

Yeah but i got boo'ed at to begin with, then they just went silence when i started, really wanted to blwo the tyres that time, cursed dodgy water temp guage mods, ah well..

i did it for a giggle, because i could, and to give the trevs something different to stare at..

if i had the cash id go stuff a vh45 into something and build it for big RPM, thatd go hard at it i feel..

[v8souproar]

well said butters

motorvation is a v8 orientated event. It is an event where cars get flogged are driven to the limit.

I would defintly like to see more imports there, it will happen but only slowly.....

[lysdexia]

well i had a blast all weekend. if you have a bit of respect for ALL teh cars there, it's great. made me sad to be in the crowd saturday night when the yellow 1600 was in the burnout comp. some trevspec dumbass was going on about how it shouldnt have been in there, even though it was putting on a fairly reasonable show.

also shat me when i was in R31 Power's car (HYPER31) on the supercruise. they said to 'just keep moving, dont stop' even though there was a lovely trevhead in front of us blinding us with a standstill. big jase gets on the brake when he rolls up to the line, 7krpm sitting there, and the fucktard official at the line tells us to keep moving. wanker.

as for the burnout comp, i'd like to put a VH45 in something, fit some 2.75:1 diff gears and go nuts with it.

oh, and with any luck R31 Skyline Club will be back bigger and better, with a lovely chopped up pintara making lots of noise :D

[Emancipator]

BTW.. was talking to a few officals (one of which i think was Treasure) and they were saying that for next year they are goign try to rasie the quality, requiring 3 pics, External, Interior and Engine Bay. Make what you will of that... maybe it will make it easier to eliminate imports or maybe it will open spaces for imports.. only time will tell.

[Sully]

i reckon just for a laugh next year, everyone who enters under the antilag banner should wear a mullet wig.

[G0DF4Th3R]

i reckon PIMPIN should get a V8 conversion and do burnouts for kicks



.... or not

[G0DF4Th3R]

me-->"stock issit?"
Trev-->"yeah"
me--> "riiiight....just f*ck off aye, i think i hear a dingo eating your baby"

It was quite comical at the time, especially because i don't think he actually got it. Maybe you had to be there.....

u said issit in real life issit?

[Rickmate]

i reckon just for a laugh next year, everyone who enters under the antilag banner should wear a mullet wig.

haha that would be a laugh and a half...

I was there on the saturday (got burnt as and still walking funny) and just kept thinking how to shove it up the trevs ass, vh45 in silvia and enter burnout comp, thats the way to go !! whatever happened to that speedworks car, or was that a vh41 ?.. If i found a rolling silvia shell id do that with my mate for sure, backyard burnout bunky...

Anyhow, can anyone tell me what "PROTOTYPE"
http://www.driveline.net.au/gallery/2005//17/IMG_5131.jpg? is running and is it a weapon, zorst out of the side, engine management etc..

Cheers
Rick

[[SPESHAL]]

Its my old car. Has all internal work now, TD05, FMIC and Link (like I had), but he can't manage a 12 like I did, best of 13.2 or something.

[JME]

Anyhow, can anyone tell me what "PROTOTYPE"
http://www.driveline.net.au/gallery/2005//17/IMG_5131.jpg? is running and is it a weapon, zorst out of the side, engine management etc..

Cheers
Rick


Its running standard stroke EJ20, forged rods/pistons, TD05 @ 1.2bar, Link Ecu, 4.11s, good for mid 12's.

Jme

[Starion_turbo]

My old car is there- I miss it so much.

[BLUWRX]

Some short clips of the light show on Saturday night. :boink:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~asupply2/Video/

[TJ]

in real life it was so much more hardcore heheheh

ramon's wrx is the best

rev......... wind down. and you know exactly when the bang is coming !

[Rickmate]

Would not have picked that, so more work to the engine and less 1/4 ?

[BLUWRX]

Would not have picked that, so more work to the engine and less 1/4 ?

The 10 ton of stereo gear that now resides in the boot wouldn't be 1/4 mile friendly.

[MattyP]

http://teamintegrated.org/cars/motorvation05/

The rest of the images from myself & a couple of Ti guys.

Enjoy

[TJ]

http://teamintegrated.org/cars/motorvation05/page2/images/D0FG7645.JPG

[dorisaur]

Haha hey i remeber those guys in the soarer from Rhy's cruise that saturday night.. They kept pumping the fist everytime they came past our car.. I also love the Zeit wheels mmm....

[dorisaur]

Ohh yeah also, last year when i had my s13 at movo i copped all the take it home ricer and milk and juice comments and when i would hear that you just drive at the people who say it, its also like when the trevs dont move for you when your driving around, just dont stop keep driving and push them out of the way, works a charm.

[v8souproar]

But one of the highlights of the weekend for me was probably a 7 year old boy that was looking at my car and said "Is this a 1989 Skyline GTS?" to which he was correct and I asked how he knew that! (As most adults dont!) to which he replied "I always buy Skylines in Gran turismo on Playstation...I love Skylines" So I took him and his Dad for a spin in it during the supercruise layed a few lines and gave it some stick down the track to which he had the Hugest Grin :D good on ya mate, it woulda made his day.

how to stick it up the trevs- early 80's supra 20psi 1UZ-FE stocker......

Its pisses me off when people think "orrr jap car shit" but when they see a 2L escort(great cars still...) or a dun up v6 commie they love em, both of which get totally shat on by imports in every department. just an egzample.

edit- PRODUCT DISCLOSURE INFORMATION
btw i drive a EBfairmont and im not calling everyone that drives holden or ford or whatever a trev, the trevs know who they are and im sure theres none on this site for obvious reasons. im sure you guys get my drift....

[wagonshaw]

why go to motorvation if you dont like what the people in commodores or fords say about imports? you import guys im sure bag commodore and ford drivers by calling them bogans and trevs or what ever.
i drive a V8 commie couldnt give a toss what you call me. if i drove a import i couldnt give a toss what the bogans in V8's would call me. some of you need to go home to mum and have a cry. if you want to go to motorvation with your car then turn up apply for motorvation the more variation of cars there the better. if poeple boo you then show them a huge skid stick it up em. now that ive said that im going home to my mum for a cry.

ctahcya for another rant some other time

dan

[Sully]

^^^^^^^ everyone take note of that. so true

[mc68]

Its running standard stroke EJ20, forged rods/pistons, TD05 @ 1.2bar, Link Ecu, 4.11s, good for mid 12's.

Jme


was a liberty twin turbo motor at one stage wasnt it Jme?

the car should be faster i spose :)

[[SPESHAL]]

The short motor is from a Legacy GTB which is twin turbo. The car never ran twin turbos though.

[magic1]

http://teamintegrated.org/cars/motorvation05/page2/images/D0FG7645.JPG

pauls going so fast that the sticker is peeling off

[RICEY]

Oi pingpingpingpings not all the VNs at MV were single spinner 16 second shazza taxis !!!

Power in numbers people, next year make a decent presence. Perth WRX had a great display with plenty of cars and a nightclub to boot hahaha Although by the end of the night I was sick of hearing fucking antilag *bang pop pop bang*

The stereotypical "trevs" are really a minority but stand out because they are loud mouthed fuckwits. Most people appreciate a car for what it does not what it is.... Motorvation doesnt have to be an aussie car event if all the imports make an appearance.

Bit better organisation next year and get an Antilag display happening.

[TJ]

i expect you to be entered with us ricey, for that little bit of trev influence ;)

[RICEY]

Never know ur luck in the big city hahaha

P.S. Rent a spa !!!

P.P.S Invite lots of females to go in said spa.

P.P.P.S Bring lots of alcohol to get females in spa drunk enough to get naked.

P.P.P.P.S Dont inform said females of your intentions.

[RB26VL]

wasnt a bad show, lack of imports yes, but we need some powerful and modified imports, not just 20 stock or slightly modified gts-ts (no offence to owners).

hopefully my stagea with the rb26/ gtr 5speed, and what ever power its making over 350rwhp will be there to show its stuff :)

not sure if it would fit length ways in the snakepit :lol:

but ill have a 2wd switch so we will see :shake:

and easiest way to shut the trev dickheads up is have a dyno printout on ya windscreen and they realise it aint slow :flipa:

and the ones making all the comments are the 17 year old p plater nobs who dont have the guts to enter their pieces of shite 6 banger vh commos :asshole:

also one note i see balistic had a group of fine ladies drivin his car all saturday and i couldnt find joe to have a chat

dcieve's r31 is nice and sounds sweet, cool car mate :) (i was with my mate chris (SAAB) who was talking to u for ages on saturday)

cya

Brad

[LNYMRKO]

P.S. Rent a spa !!!

P.P.S Invite lots of females to go in said spa.

P.P.P.S Bring lots of alcohol to get females in spa drunk enough to get naked.

P.P.P.P.S Dont inform said females of your intentions.Nice work! I like your ideas Ricey, hahah. :lol:

[TurboHead]

considering 2 evos several wrx I was surprised a EK holden won the go to whoa and a 32 coupe following second .... that was interesting. Nice work to the SW GSR for taking fastest slalom time..... I saw what you were doing on the line .... you attacked that hard !

Go2Whoa was won by the white R33 GTR with the 1941 Willys coupe 2nd (the Willys won the Go2Whoa last year with the same GTR 2nd).
3rd and 4th were WRX's, Evo2 5th, Evo8 6th, AC Cobra 7th, Honda motorbike 8th, Tristan's MR2 9th and another WRX 10th. (for those interested a TS50 was 11th)

Slalom was won by the Silver Evo2 (mine), Evo8 2nd, WRX 3rd, WRX 4th, Red GTS Skyline 5th, R33 GTR 6th, MR2 7th, WRX 8th, Commodore 9th, Pulsar turbo 10th.


In the end my main 'Motorvation' for going was to win the Slalom event!...in the end I ended up 4th (The 1st RWD vehicle) so was definately out there giving it a go for the Jap boys

Sorry Dude - you were 5th... but a damn good effort anyway for a rwd. You also came 42nd in the Go2Whoa.

[RICEY]

42nd Im betting there was some trevs in front of you there hahaha

[Brockas]

pauls going so fast that the sticker is peeling off

it was all the fully sick doof doof bro that made it peal..... jk

[GTREA]

Sorry Dude - you were 5th... but a damn good effort anyway for a rwd

Yeah I saw that when I got the official results....another WRX must have snuck in :squint:

Heres the official results ;)

Slalom (127 drivers)
1st Scott Lambie AFARCC 6.87
2nd Dan Carson Perth-WRX 7.22
3rd Sharn Tasnaruangrong Perth-WRX 7.31
4th Peter Tomkins Perth-WRX 7.36
5th Lindsay Rea R31 SkylineClub 7.41
6th George Eames AFARCC 7.54
7th Tristan Hewitt AFARCC 7.54
8th Robert Hoare Perth-WRX 7.55
9th Rick Barnard Commodore CC 7.56
10th James Mandy Perth Pulsar 7.62

Turbohead....I to saw your run and was impressed......but still cursed you :) :boink: You pretty well blitzed the rest of the field ;) ...apart from your time I would say the others only beat my R31 in '4WD acceleration' off the start line to the first witches hat.....

Go2Whoa
1st George Eames AFARCC 5.907
2nd Mark Allen Dun Rootn 5.954
3rd Peter Tomkins Perth-WRX 6.115
4th Alex Friedrich Perth-WRX 6.115
5th Scott Lambie AFARCC 6.232
6th Dan Carson Perth-WRX 6.235
7th David Bennie AC Cobra 6.249
8th David Gajsek Motorbike 6.296
9th Tristan Hewitt AFARCC 6.296
10th Gerry Alleavme Perth-WRX 6.297 - in actual fact was Allan's STI


RiCeY 42nd Im betting there was some trevs in front of you there hahaha

Bwahaha...yeah thats pretty funny :shake:
Mate, I run consistent 2.4 second 60ft times in my car, and with no ABS to back it up at the other end I was never going to be a contender in this event, gave it a go on the first run but clipped witches hat, 2nd run was like a 2nd sevice in Tennis....hence the 42nd ;)

[Emancipator]

Are the full results available some where on the net?

[TJ]

motorplex website, if they not on there, then email the team there

[Nissmo]

Damn. Great read. :cool:
I entered. Had a blast. Perhaps drove the most rice car there & had no problems what so ever. I love my rice. I love my 8s. I love cars regardless.

Appreciate them for what they are & dont bag the shiz outta them. Chances are if you ever go for a ride in one you'll love it. Keep it real folks.

Enter your cars next year. Variation is what its about. It is definitely anything but a V8 biased show. When it first started, maybe. But times & trends change. You need to show the enthusism, dedication & more importantly EFFORT if you wanna see more import cars. All it boils down too.

Enjoyed reading this thread. So many views, points & opinions. Gave me a few laughs & something to think about.

See you at motorvation 06.

:repost: over :)