Daylight saving finished yesterday

[BOSS 290]

Thank fuck. Got my one hour back I've been missing for 6 months. Fucking hate it still being dark at 7am in the morning, if I wanted dark in the morning I'd have moved to the south pole! If I wanted extra daylight at night I'd have moved to the north pole!

Go the No vote FTMFW!!!!!!

Let the flame wars begin :lol:

[miss_petepie]

nope I love it and miss it :( Im voting YES :D

[colt75]

Im going to vote Yes to daylight savings.

if you hated it being dark at 7am in the morning, wouldnt u vote yes?
that way during daylight savings, the time would be 6am dark, 7am light.
instead of 7am dark, 8am light?

or am i confused.

[vy ss ute m6]

Arriving home after work at 7am and it's light already is shit.

When's the actual vote n shit anyway?

[BOSS 290]

Im going to vote Yes to daylight savings.

if you hated it being dark at 7am in the morning, wouldnt u vote yes?
that way during daylight savings, the time would be 6am dark, 7am light.
instead of 7am dark, 8am light?

or am i confused.

Yes you are. DLS = dark at 7am near the end of March. Non DLS = dark at 6am, light at 7am :)

[BOSS 290]

May 16th or something? I'm going to every voting booth in my electorate to cast my no vote ;)

[evil1]

vote yes KUNTSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Daisy]

dls went for a month too long, should have finished at the end of feb but vote yes pingpingpingpings

[mitchy]

vote yes! extra daylight after work gives me more light hours to fix my continually breaking cars :P

[pgc]

You started a war here.

I'm voting YES.

[1JZVL]

i dunno what to vote now :(

I do enjoy the extra sunlight before dark...but at the same time....my night seems to be going "Slower" which is kinda cool :D

[Denver]

ill be voting no

in the east it makes sense as the sun does go down early there, even with daylight saving, however in WA we get it for longer, and hotter, meaning when the sun finally does go down at 9pm, if you try going to bed at 10, its still boiling fucking hot..

add to that, it means SFA to business these days as everything is communicated electronically..

[d1_drifter]

Vote yes!

Being nearly dark at 6:30pm kinda sucks :(

[Ryan1080]

I will vote YES YES YES MOTHERFUCKING YEEEESSSS!!!!



add to that, it means SFA to business these days as everything is communicated electronically..

What has that got to do with anything? If I want to speak to someone in the Sydney branch as soon as I get to work at 9am, they are at lunch time at 12. By the time they are back from lunch, I am going out for lunch. By the time I get back from lunch, they are going home. Sometimes you want to speak to the actual person, and the 3 hour time difference fucks with it all. I'm sorry to say, but your 'electronic' argument is a FAIL.

[titmeat]

will be voting yes
honestly wouldnt mind having it all year

[dmwill]

Will be voting yes.

Miss the light - wanted to go for a ride this evening when I got home - but that did not happen.

[Rhys]

Ill be voting yes, but running into a March is just stupid. Should run only thru Summer

[S_E]

will be voting yes
honestly wouldnt mind having it all year



+1

I like the dark when going to work, and extra daylight in the afternoon/night when it actually matters ftw

[ADZR8]

VOTE YES!

[Cold Fusion]

love it, ill be voting yes :)

[Daisy]

of people voting yes, any of you vote no for it originally??

[[FFOUR]]

I must be one of the view who doesn't give a shit, it really doesn't affect much of what I do. I won't be here on ballot day so hopefully I can avoid voting all together.

[EL BURITO]

Yes from me

I work the same hours as the tradies having time to go the beach after work is great

[pgc]

I must be one of the view who doesn't give a shit, it really doesn't affect much of what I do. I won't be here on ballot day so hopefully I can avoid voting all together.

There's always the postal vote Jan. That's what I'll be doing.

[Lonewolf]

I must be one of the view who doesn't give a shit, it really doesn't affect much of what I do. I won't be here on ballot day so hopefully I can avoid voting all together.

not the only one, dont give a toss either way.
if i had to lean towards one, i'd go for no, same reasons as denver above.

[Niva]

vote yes! extra daylight after work gives me more light hours to fix my continually breaking cars :P

x2

[Tocchi]

vote yes! extra daylight after work gives me more light hours to fix my continually breaking cars :Px2

x3

[Macca]

its good up north. its dark at 6.30pm, and pitch black at 7pm. cant do sweet fuck all

[R3N]

easier calling up the eastern states as well, 3 hour time difference was difficult, had to get shit done before 2pm here otherwise they'd all be closed over there

[SircatmaN]

Bah who cares about daylight savings, bring on the real reformations I say, WHY DONT WE HAVE WEEKEND/LATE NIGHT TRADING HERE YET!?!? only fucking place on the planet where you dont have the freedom to goto the shops when you want to. everyone works differant hours/shifts now anyway its not like back in the day when everyone did 9-5.

[1JZNOSHIT]

i dont get up until 8am so i dont give too shits what its like outside before then, YES gets my vote! i much prefer the extra light at the end of the day than the lost hour of brightness in the morning.

Dec-Feb should be it.

[Ryan1080]

Bah who cares about daylight savings, bring on the real reformations I say, WHY DONT WE HAVE WEEKEND/LATE NIGHT TRADING HERE YET!?!? only fucking place on the planet where you dont have the freedom to goto the shops when you want to. everyone works differant hours/shifts now anyway its not like back in the day when everyone did 9-5.

Heard on he news today they will do late night trading on all weekdays, so shops will close at 9pm monday to friday. Bring it on! This plus daylight savings will bring us closer to stepping out of the dark ages haha.

[Endless]

Finally my curtains will stop getting faded from all this extra sunlight!

[1JZNOSHIT]

Finally my curtains will stop getting faded from all this extra sunlight!

and the cows wont be confused!

[hillbilly1]

Confused why everyone wants dls so they have more arvo daylight, but winge about it being on in march when it really does count that you have that extra hour of light.
As for haveing trouble talking to easties for work, try getting up earlier you slack carnts.
And all the talk about tradies wanting it more is BS, we start work when want and finnish when want anyway :)
Having said that I'll probably vote YES.

[RICEY]

Always been a fan so YES from me

POLL ADDED :D

[Joe]

Basically, I reckon that if the govt just enforced it and didn't give anyone a choice, there would be whinging for maybe a month or two, and then no one would think about it again.

But thats not the case and of course the Nanny State always has people who can't handle anything other than the status quo, which means that its more than likely the majority will vote NO.

BUT, I'll be voting YES because I love the extra light when I get home, to go for a walk or ride or anything really.

[BOSS 290]

its good up north. its dark at 6.30pm, and pitch black at 7pm. cant do sweet fuck all

You're also 600kms further east than Perth, as is Kalgoorlie. So, the sun will come up earlier and set earlier than in Perth.

[Denver]

watch how quickly you change your tune when your trying to put ballsack jnr to bed, and its boiling fucking hot and the little bugger won't go to sleep

you'll be cursing it, "no no, why did i vote yes, look where its ended me up at!, oh why!"

[BOSS 290]

watch how quickly you change your tune when your trying to put ballsack jnr to bed, and its boiling fucking hot and the little bugger won't go to sleep

you'll be cursing it, "no no, why did i vote yes, look where its ended me up at!, oh why!"

Sunblock blinds and ducted reverse cycle airconditioning will fix those things. A big dose of phenergen might help too. Along with your NO vote :lol:

[miss_petepie]

who doesnt have air con these days? I loved the extra light at night, finishing at 6pm from work and at 630 out watering the lawn or doing something random to unwind. I really enjoyed it. :)

[INSINR8R]

voting no just to spite you all

[BOSS 290]

who doesnt have air con these days? I loved the extra light at night, finishing at 6pm from work and at 630 out watering the lawn or doing something random to unwind. I really enjoyed it. :)

It's still daylight at 730-8pm pre DLS during the months of November to February.

Somehow pro DLS folk believe having DLS adds an extra 2 hours of daylight at the end of the day :werd:

[MISS 13B]

In Summer the extra hour of daylight is awesome.
You can work on the car after work in natural light as opposed to having to use flood lights or garage lights and having a swarm of mozzie's attack you.
I don't mind either way whether we get it or not.

I must say though, I think it goes for about 3 weeks too long, towards the end it gets a bit too dark in the mornings for my liking.

[Wezz]

who doesnt have air con these days?

I dont :(

love the extra hour of light to fix cars, but seems to fuck up my sleeping patterns etc, i just get all fucked up when it starts..

sitting on the fence here

[Bomb33]

+1 for vote yes, but maybe a month to long.

[DISTRBD]

There showing the skin cancer ads more n pushing the radio ads yet they want to give people more time in the sun :dizzy:

[Joe]

watch how quickly you change your tune when your trying to put ballsack jnr to bed, and its boiling fucking hot and the little bugger won't go to sleep

you'll be cursing it, "no no, why did i vote yes, look where its ended me up at!, oh why!"

Ballsack Jnr will go to bed when I tell him/her to go to bed...

Daylight Savings is NOT an excuse for bad parenting.

[Ryan1080]

Ballsack Jnr will go to bed when I tell him/her to go to bed...

Daylight Savings is NOT an excuse for bad parenting.

+1!

Some countries in Europe have the sun setting after 10pm in summer time, with DLS. Somehow people there manage to put their kids to sleep no problem. Agreed with the bad parenting excuse. Just as pathetic as confused cows and fading curtains!

[coFF33]

May 16th or something? I'm going to every voting booth in my electorate to cast my no vote ;)


Already know ~5 people who are doing this , as am i , and voting YES MOTHERFUCKER

[LNYMRKO]

I'll be voting yes, I like it! Good to have light for that extra while when you get home from work. Suppose it's more of an inconvenience for people doing irregular work hours or not general 9-5ish sorta stuff.

Also keen for late night/weekend shopping! That way I have more time to blow money on stupid shit and be even more broke!

[DISTRBD]

watch how quickly you change your tune when your trying to put ballsack jnr to bed, and its boiling fucking hot and the little bugger won't go to sleep

you'll be cursing it, "no no, why did i vote yes, look where its ended me up at!, oh why!"

My kids had no issues with going to bed , we have these wonderful things that block out the sunlight , i think they call them curtains but anyway they are awesome

[Ryan1080]

My kids had no issues with going to bed , we have these wonderful things that block out the sunlight , i think they call them curtains but anyway they are awesome

Oh noez! How much have they faded since though?? LOL!

[Frenchy]

Ballsack Jnr will go to bed when I tell him/her to go to bed...

Daylight Savings is NOT an excuse for bad parenting.

Calling it bad parenting is a bit harsh.
The thing with DLS is it messes up with routine, something that is pretty important when bringing up a child. Its not that its too light, but the fact that the usual routine of putting a child to bed at 7pm ends up actually trying to get them TO SLEEP an hour earlier. Its not hard putting them to bed, but it doesnt take a day to get them into this routine and to sleep.
Something i think alot of non-parents wouldnt have a clue about.

Me and the mrs just kept putting our son down at the normal time (7pm non DLS / 8pm DLS time) but its pretty easy for us as we dont have much of a schedual.........other parents on the other hand do.

[DISTRBD]

Oh noez! How much have they faded since though?? LOL!

It should be legal so if some fuckwit says " my curtains will fade from xtra light " you can belt the pingpingpingpings in the head

[MMM]

im definatly voting yes. Im a tradey and the heat of the day gets pushed forward an hour during dls soo when its 40 im driving home to airconditioning rather than sweating my box off. Also the time difference between the eastern states is the other big issue so i can see this bill getting up if only the old grannys vote yes.

[Ryan1080]

Calling it bad parenting is a bit harsh.
The thing with DLS is it messes up with routine, something that is pretty important when bringing up a child. Its not that its too light, but the fact that the usual routine of putting a child to bed at 7pm ends up actually trying to get them TO SLEEP an hour earlier. Its not hard putting them to bed, but it doesnt take a day to get them into this routine and to sleep.
Something i think alot of non-parents wouldnt have a clue about.

Me and the mrs just kept putting our son down at the normal time (7pm non DLS / 8pm DLS time) but its pretty easy for us as we dont have much of a schedual.........other parents on the other hand do.

Frenchy, 100s of millions of people around the world somehow manage without a problem...

[Frenchy]

Frenchy, 100s of millions of people around the world somehow manage without a problem...

You sure about that, or because you dont hear anything about them complaining that means it doesnt happen.....remember, west aussies are predominately poms and whinge alot :lol:
I know what your saying tho, and i honestly dont mind the whole DLS idea. Me and the mrs work around the whole thing, but i know alot of families that struggle with it due to work, getting kids into routine etc etc. Its not the extra light (hell most kids sleep around lunchtime for their midday nap) but keeping in the routine for kids to sleep at a certain time. All it takes is a couple days mess up, and its hard to get the kid back into that routine.
Easy for some, not for others is all im saying. Just doesnt mean they are bad parents.

[confuzion]

lol @ putting kids to sleep. It makes no fucking difference. Aircon & blinds ftw and if they doesnt help drop the pingpingpingping on the head.
Voting yes mutherfuckers.

[kato]

Voting yes. Would prefer if it didn't go through till March as it starts to get a bit useless in the later part of March.

As for the kids can't sleep. Cows can't milk. Curtains fade. Seriously grow up. The time on your watch is not set in stone, change accordinly and utilise the time better. Everyone else in the world seems more than capable of doing this except for Perth.

[nang3]

fucken oath voting yes !!! more sun time in the arvos means slightly warmer means chicks wearing less FFS !!!
beer tastes better in the sun too..

who gives a fucken rats if its darker in the mornings - shouldnt you be heading to work anyway in the AM and therefore not care?

[BOSS 290]

Frenchy, 100s of millions of people around the world somehow manage without a problem...

There are more countries in the world that don't have DLS than do!

Why the fuck does a city with an average of 10-11hours of sunlight per day need DLS? Many countries that have DLS in the summer time have fuck all sunlight in winter time. I remember when I lived in Holland it was still dark at 8-830 in the morning, and it would be pitch black by 430-500 in the afternoon. The sun rose around 11am and started to set by around 3pm. It was low in the horizon and usually orange in colour. Those countries need as much light as they can get.

We have shitloads of it. Infact, like mentioned before, notice the skin cancer ads ramp up? Dumb kunts going to the beach frying themselves. Must be another advantage of DLS :lol:

[Ryan1080]

Frenchy, I lived in Europe for a long time. In fact, I was a kid who had to go to sleep before the sun set, I had no problems.

Boss290, majority of the coutnries with no DLS are third world countries. Majority of developed countries do use DLS. I see now how Perth is always called a backhole of the county lol! Why would you aspire to be like third world countries?

Personally, getting home at 6 - 6:30, after battling traffic, I'd still want to have some daylight to use after work. Why is it such a big bother for you? Without DLS, by the time I have dinner and stuff, the sun has already set pretty much. The extra hour gives you some solid outdoors time you wouldn't otherwise have.

[Frenchy]

Frenchy, I lived in Europe for a long time. In fact, I was a kid who had to go to sleep before the sun set, I had no problems.


Personally, getting home at 6 - 6:30, after battling traffic, I'd still want to have some daylight to use after work. Why is it such a big bother for you? Without DLS, by the time I have dinner and stuff, the sun has already set pretty much. The extra hour gives you some solid outdoors time you wouldn't otherwise have.

You might want to pass on those sleeping tips to the parents who are having problems with it ;)

I actually like DLS, means when i finish work at 6pm, drive home 2 hours i still get to see some light around the place and my boy is still awake enough for me to see him before bed.

[BOSS 290]

Frenchy, I lived in Europe for a long time. In fact, I was a kid who had to go to sleep before the sun set, I had no problems.

Boss290, majority of the coutnries with no DLS are third world countries. Majority of developed countries do use DLS. I see now how Perth is always called a backhole of the county lol! Why would you aspire to be like third world countries?

Personally, getting home at 6 - 6:30, after battling traffic, I'd still want to have some daylight to use after work. Why is it such a big bother for you? Without DLS, by the time I have dinner and stuff, the sun has already set pretty much. The extra hour gives you some solid outdoors time you wouldn't otherwise have.

I start work at 10-1030 and finish by 1-2pm. I have plenty of time to enjoy the light.

[Ryan1080]

Sleeping tips:

1. shut the curtain
2. discipline

Kids are meant to listen to their parents. When I was little and was told to go to sleep, I had to go to sleep. If I didn't listen to my parents, smack! Kids learn quickly to listen to their parents, with a bit of discipline. Discipline is what's generally lacking nowadays, with all the dickhead doo gooders out there, doing damage to the society. That's why lots of kids tend to grow up as little pingpingpingpings. When I see a mother repeating politely "no, no, no, no" at her naughty kid in the supermarket, while the kid shows absolute lack of respect at the mother's authority, that's when you see the parent has FAILed. I'm sorry to say, and don't mean to offend anyone, however, kids are meant to listen to you. Period. If they don't, make them! If you're doing a good job at parenting, they will go to sleep. Don't blame DLS for your short comings.

[Ryan1080]

I start work at 10-1030 and finish by 1-2pm. I have plenty of time to enjoy the light.

You have. Majority of people however work the usual 8/9am till 5/6pm hours. Majority benefits here.

[Tocchi]

i just feel sorry for the cows with curtains. not only will their milking be out of schedule, but to add more stress, their curtains will be faded

[Frenchy]

Sleeping tips:

1. shut the curtain
2. discipline

If I didn't listen to my parents, smack! Kids learn quickly to listen to their parents, with a bit of discipline. Discipline is what's generally lacking nowadays, with all the dickhead doo gooders out there, doing damage to the society. That's why lots of kids tend to grow up as little pingpingpingpings. When I see a mother repeating politely "no, no, no, no" at her naughty kid in the supermarket, while the kid shows absolute lack of respect at the mother's authority, that's when you see the parent has FAILed. I'm sorry to say, and don't mean to offend anyone, however, kids are meant to listen to you. Period. If they don't, make them! If you're doing a good job at parenting, they will go to sleep. Don't blame DLS for your short comings.

Totally agree, I was brought up the same way.....except due to the doo-gooders now-a-days, if a parent smacks their kid, then some pingpingpingping dobs and parents get fucked on. The amount of kids that tell teachers their parents 'hit'(which is often mistaken for smacking) them after being asked stupid questions, then get investigated by child support agencies is stupid. (i know of this due to family members in the teaching community who think its bullshit)
Your right, too many doo-gooders, not enough punishment. But once again, its not due to bad parenting...just how things are these days.


*back on topic*
DLS needs to cut out march.
Interested to see how many companies have done well out of the whole DLS thing....that was one of the big pushes for it.
Anyone expericed with this?

[Rantopotamus]

Vote Yes to DLS Nove - Feb
Vote no to DLS March...

The last 2 weeks i was so looking forward to it ending!! It started to make me tired even though i was sleeping more being dark in morning...

And i am sorry to say I have to agree with Ryan 1080 (coz he pays me with Wagyu) haha but no seriously.. my room never sees the lite of day unless I open my roller shutter... Pitch black all day. Close the door, put fucking ear plugs in done. I have worked shift work and slept in 50 degree heat during the day up north, like many others we deal with it. But yeah kiddies will get more restless over these times but most of it is fucking holidays anyway and you old fart parents can spend more time with the kiddies and more time doing burnouts... its win win...

But to help with the kiddies and the morning people even dropping DLS mid feb would help as school has started and it gets darker earlier so kids go to bed, get good sleep and others get up in daylight and the YES voters still get their Summer time shift for an extra hour... WIN WIN

its all about the give n take!! We are 3000kms away from eastern states.. business wise I dont care ( i deal with eastern states all the time) Im just saying we are our own state.. we should make something suitable for eveyrone.. .

I think i just sorted the whole issue... i am the best.

[DISTRBD]

Why no DLS for march ??

[Bakerboy]

Daylight saving's is shit for me im a baker and go to sleep at 730pm and in summer with daylight saving's its still fucking light outside and hot voting 100% no the only people that benifit are the 9-5 r's who sit on their arse all day lazy pingpings

[hostage_85]

Sleeping tips:

1. shut the curtain
2. discipline

Kids are meant to listen to their parents. When I was little and was told to go to sleep, I had to go to sleep. If I didn't listen to my parents, smack! Kids learn quickly to listen to their parents, with a bit of discipline. Discipline is what's generally lacking nowadays, with all the dickhead doo gooders out there, doing damage to the society. That's why lots of kids tend to grow up as little pingpingpingpings. When I see a mother repeating politely "no, no, no, no" at her naughty kid in the supermarket, while the kid shows absolute lack of respect at the mother's authority, that's when you see the parent has FAILed. I'm sorry to say, and don't mean to offend anyone, however, kids are meant to listen to you. Period. If they don't, make them! If you're doing a good job at parenting, they will go to sleep. Don't blame DLS for your short comings.

Agreed 120% lol. Discipline is whats lacking, When I tell my kid its time for bed, its time for bed, end of story. He tried playing up for a lil bit, but he soon learned who's the boss.

[Ryan1080]

the only people that benifit are the 9-5 r's who sit on their arse all day lazy pingpings

How farken dumb and ignorant is that comment? ^^^

[flamo_damo]

Daylight saving's is shit for me im a baker and go to sleep at 730pm and in summer with daylight saving's its still fucking light outside and hot voting 100% no the only people that benifit are the 9-5 r's who sit on their arse all day lazy pingpings

Haha lazy? Lol you choose your proffession so live with it, personally I dont mind daylight saving because my lazy ass gets to see some light at the end of the day lol

[Bakerboy]

is just my opinion will see what happens when the voting is over not this one but government one

[BOSS 290]

is just my opinion will see what happens when the voting is over not this one but government one

Re you previous comment, I cannot find many tradies that like DLS, especially those that work in the housing sector. 5am starts in summer time (pre DLS time) when it's light then working through until 12-1pm means bulk work gets done before the heat sets in, then it's off to the pub/beach/brothel etc to enjoy the rest of your day.

Plenty of lazy pingpingpingpings who work the 9-5 shifts like DLS, as seen by the poll results and the wording for the no vote :shake:

[Mistikal]

How farken dumb and ignorant is that comment? ^^^

Have to agree with you - I'm a 9-5'er, and I enjoy the DLS due to the extra time to get home, and get work done around the house or on the car. As someone else mentioned, it's far better using natural light than artificial light, much easier to see.

I live on a quiet street which is used as a thoroughfare between the housing estate and a huuuuge park (yes, lawndigs are orsm), and the amount of people who have stopped taking their pets for a walk just this week alone is astounding. It might just be coincidental that DLS has stopped, thus limiting the 'light time' available in the afternoon/evening, but it's definitely a noticeable difference over last week.

[Daisy]

who starts at 5am, not allowed to start till 7 in building.
all my tradies love it, except for the thick ones.

some of us work 7 to 5-6, getting home and its dark is just plain shit.

[esky]

5am starts is a pack of crap

ALL building licenses state work hours are 7am till 4.30pm monday to saturday. as soon as guys start even 10mins to early all the neighbours get on the phone to the coucil whinging and carrying on, fines issued etc

if you cant start before 7 what difference does it make if its light or not, it's just another stupid argument put forward by dummies too thick to comprehend DLS.

[singh]

Apart from daylight savings going over a couple weeks too long, I liked it. :)

[Kilma]

I must be one of the view who doesn't give a shit, it really doesn't affect much of what I do. I won't be here on ballot day so hopefully I can avoid voting all together.
+1

Don't care either way. I just want it to stay the same all year around.

[kurbn]

couldnt of happened at a worser time, i have to pull my gearbox down and I get home at 6 oclock, so looks like Il be doing it in the dark.

[Ryan1080]

is just my opinion will see what happens when the voting is over not this one but government one

No, I meant how dumb and ignorant was your comment about claiming 9-5 workers are lazy.

[BOSS 290]

who starts at 5am, not allowed to start till 7 in building.
all my tradies love it, except for the thick ones.

some of us work 7 to 5-6, getting home and its dark is just plain shit.

Seen plenty of tradies start at 5am on housing construction in new suburbs. All the tradies I know hate it, except for the thick ones.

[Turbo2.6L]

We need it if Eastern States continue with it... 2hr time difference is enough without the extra fucking hour during DLS :(

[ossie_21]

^ Same, I hate it when were are 3 hours behind, but in the end I don't care what happens either way really....

But I don't see it being brought in.

[S13]

for me in my job its ridiculous being 3 hours behind

i generate most of my revenue early mornings as it is and now and hour earlier coz we go off sydney time it cuts my real work time down ...pain in the ass. No one wants to talk to you at 7 am about money when my day starts. 30% of the action has already happened before most people have their breakfast and im 95% done by the time people are having there lunch... just stoopid

appart from that i reckon we should have it... i just dont see why not

[Ryan1080]

DLS is so logical, it only makes sense to have it. I'm yet to see any real valid reasons not to have DLS.

[TJ]

Vote 1 for Mugabe!

[Riggs]

I'm yet to see any real valid reasons not to have DLS.

My silk curtains will faid, And so will the paint on my cars!

[Ryan1080]

My silk curtains will faid, And so will the paint on my cars!

Hey hey hey, don't forget draught and global warming!! Hahahahahaha, retards!

http://i34.tinypic.com/9zoe43.jpg

[1JZNOSHIT]

Vote 1 for Mugabe!

+1

[d1_drifter]

Hey hey hey, don't forget draught and global warming!! Hahahahahaha, retards!

http://i34.tinypic.com/9zoe43.jpg

Ohh dear... :slap:

[Rantopotamus]

ahahahhahahahahah fucing tards who think theres actually extra daylight!! ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahah ahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha

[Ryan1080]

I believe there should be an IQ test conducted, and you will need to pass it with average score minimum in order to get a chance in voting in this referendum. Guaranteed landslide victory for the YES vote haha.

[INSINR8R]

put it this way, if the seniors vote in more numbers than the youth, you wont see daylight savings...

Come on seniors, lets hope they don't break a hip on the way to the polling booths... too harsh?

[Ryan1080]

Here's an idea, gotta get some underage ghetto pingpingpingpings to stand outside retirement homes with baseball bats and make all the nannas scared to come out of their house and vote :D

Nah, too inappropriate.

[Shauno]

Was sitting in the movies the other day...it started at 4:15. At 6:10 some guy and his missus walk in and say "How long it been going for, it starts at seven doesnt it?" i looked at him and said "Its 6 o clock man i think ya forgot day light savings" the guy did a face palm hahahahahahhahaha missus didnt look impressed either.

[DISTRBD]

We need it if Eastern States continue with it... 2hr time difference is enough without the extra fucking hour during DLS :(


1 whole hour man , fuk get into work early like i do or are you on wage ??

[BOSS 290]

We need it if Eastern States continue with it... 2hr time difference is enough without the extra fucking hour during DLS :(

But we coped with it for years man without our state going broke. California (the worlds 6th largest economy) doesn't have DLS; they manage with the 3 hours time difference between them and New York. Cant see why a piss-ant state like WA needs it if California can do without it :p

[Daisy]

cause they have arnie, we dont

[RICEY]

Civilisation coped without electricity and cars for thousands of years, your point is pretty pointless hahaha

[Ryan1080]

Boss290, not that not having DLS will make us go broke or anything, but having it will make things EASIER.

It's this 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' rubbish partly at fault too. People scared of change. Just because something isn't broken, doesn't mean it can't be improved, does it? Do you see anything wrong with improvement Boss290?

[DISTRBD]

but having it will make things EASIER.


Like what ??

[Slip_]

There was also a point in history when the clock didnt exist...

Noone NEEDS dls... it serves no purpose to the individual. Buuut that getting off topic.

[Ryan1080]

Like what ??

Like my first post in this thread for example. I deal lots with eastern states offices. If I want to speak to someone in the Sydney branch as soon as I get to work at 9am WST, they are out at lunch time at 12 or 1 EST. Lunch breaks usually occur between 12 and 2. By the time they are back from lunch, I am going out for lunch. By the time I get back from lunch, they are going home. You want to speak to the actual person, and the 3 hour time difference fucks with it all.

[BOSS 290]

Do you see anything wrong with improvement Boss290?

No, I guess not. I guess road trauma is a major concern for the state government, voters, members of the pedetrian council et al, thus the introduction of hoon laws for dangerous driving acts carried out on the road must be a good thing.

I guess there is nothing wrong with improvement, to use your logic.

[Ryan1080]

There was also a point in history when the clock didnt exist...

Noone NEEDS dls... it serves no purpose to the individual. Buuut that getting off topic.

Back when clocks didn't exist, we were like monkeys. Nowadays we have a sophisticated society that has progressed and works on clockwork. We NEED it.

[Ryan1080]

No, I guess not. I guess road trauma is a major concern for the state government, voters, members of the pedetrian council et al, thus the introduction of hoon laws for dangerous driving acts carried out on the road must be a good thing.

I guess there is nothing wrong with improvement, to use your logic.

That's totally differnt mate.

[Slip_]

Back when clocks didn't exist, we were like monkeys. Nowadays we have a sophisticated society that has progressed and works on clockwork. We NEED it.

Fail.

Like... not even close... dismal fail. almost enough fail to consider deleting that post.

Unlucky.. i just quoted it.

[BOSS 290]

That's totally differnt mate.

So you're going to argue that one is an improvement and one is not?

[DISTRBD]

If I want to speak to someone in the Sydney branch as soon as I get to work at 9am WST, they are out at lunch time at 12 or 1 EST. Lunch breaks usually occur between 12 and 2. By the time they are back from lunch, I am going out for lunch. By the time I get back from lunch, they are going home. You want to speak to the actual person, and the 3 hour time difference fucks with it all.

So you want to talk to someone in the east n its 10am in WA its still lunch time in NSW , what do you do if ya need to call east n its 4pm in WA and better still how the fuk you deal with the east before we got DLS ..

[RICEY]

Hows it fail exactly?

[RICEY]

So you're going to argue that one is an improvement and one is not?


Daylight savings does make things easier for a lot of people whether it be business or leisure related whereas hoon laws have proven to be useless to everyone. The difference is quite clear to those with an open mind :)

[BOSS 290]

Like my first post in this thread for example. I deal lots with eastern states offices. If I want to speak to someone in the Sydney branch as soon as I get to work at 9am WST, they are out at lunch time at 12 or 1 EST. Lunch breaks usually occur between 12 and 2. By the time they are back from lunch, I am going out for lunch. By the time I get back from lunch, they are going home. You want to speak to the actual person, and the 3 hour time difference fucks with it all.

So if lunch breaks occur between 12 and 2, how long do these folk have for lunch? How long do you have for lunch? Is it that difficult to manage resources so at least some people are able to take their luch break between say 12 and 1, and 1 and 2, or does the whole fucken CBD in the east vacate their offices when lunch occurs?

My understanding is most correspondence since the 1960 onwards has been managed via Telex, Fax and email, or written correspondence. Most communications require a paper trail, leaving voice to voice contact almost unnecessary.

Dunno, maybe I'm looking at this oversimplistically.

[Tocchi]

Back when clocks didn't exist, we were like monkeys. Nowadays we have a sophisticated society that has progressed and works on clockwork. We NEED it.

ahh please.. i have a watch, and i climb trees and try to hang off branches to snap stuff. haha. so your theory is null :)

[BOSS 290]

Daylight savings does make things easier for a lot of people whether it be business or leisure related whereas hoon laws have proven to be useless to everyone. The difference is quite clear to those with an open mind :)

The perception however is that the hoon laws are working, as is the perception that DLS is a good thing ;)

[Azrian]

ahh please.. i have a watch, and i climb trees and try to hang off branches to snap stuff. haha. so your theory is null :)

Too true there. On Friday night you were really enjoying breaking off that branch. LOL

[DRKWRX]

Im happy its over, before I didnt really care but I do seem to be able to get to sleep earlier and in the morning the light helps me wake up haha why cant people go out in the dark??

[Slip_]

Hows it fail exactly?

How ISNT it fail.


My understanding is most correspondence since the 1960 onwards has been managed via Telex, Fax and email, or written correspondence. Most communications require a paper trail, leaving voice to voice contact almost unnecessary.

Pretty much!

[Ryan1080]

So if lunch breaks occur between 12 and 2, how long do these folk have for lunch? How long do you have for lunch? Is it that difficult to manage resources so at least some people are able to take their luch break between say 12 and 1, and 1 and 2, or does the whole fucken CBD in the east vacate their offices when lunch occurs?

My understanding is most correspondence since the 1960 onwards has been managed via Telex, Fax and email, or written correspondence. Most communications require a paper trail, leaving voice to voice contact almost unnecessary.

Dunno, maybe I'm looking at this oversimplistically.

I never said having pre-DLS it hasn't worked. We're talking about IMPROVEMENT remember? Making things easier! People tend to take an hour break between 12 and 2pm, sometime even past 2 if they take a late lunch. Up to them when they feel like it. Often almost every day you need to know something urgently where you are better off picking up the phone and calling the person, rather than emailing them and waiting long time for a reply. ANd often they're out at lunch. So effectively from 9am till 11am in Perth, there's a period where you are uncertain if you can even get in touch with them or not. When they come back from lunch, it's after 11. You go for lunch between 12 and 2. You come back at 2, they're gone home. It's ridiculous!
And it's not about managing resources! SO you are proposing people have a roster of when to take lunch?? What for? It's best to make it flexible for employees whether they want to leave at 12 or 1pm for lunch. Best to reduce this 3 hour difference,and not impose restrictions on employees.



The perception however is that the hoon laws are working, as is the perception that DLS is a good thing ;)

Hoon laws is a perception. DLS is a real improvement. No one in public, other than cops and pollies thinks of hoon laws as an improvement. Look at this poll here. Over two thirds of antilag are saying that DLS is an improvement, not a perception.


So you want to talk to someone in the east n its 10am in WA its still lunch time in NSW , what do you do if ya need to call east n its 4pm in WA and better still how the fuk you deal with the east before we got DLS ..

We dealt with it. It was crap, but we dealt with it. Last three years was just heaps more easier and better with DLS.

[Slip_]

Might aswell throw in a vote for Mugabe whilst im at it.

[DISTRBD]

leaving voice to voice contact almost unnecessary.


I prefer to call to order my parts and not email then wait for return email to say parts not in warehouse then reply to ask when they be in stock then wait again for reply blaa blaaa blaaaaa

I just ring n pingpingpingpings go yes or no BUT i guess everyone has there own way of running there business

[Ryan1080]

My understanding is most correspondence since the 1960 onwards has been managed via Telex, Fax and email, or written correspondence. Most communications require a paper trail, leaving voice to voice contact almost unnecessary.

By the way, do you work in an office? I don't know about your work, but most correspondence in our business is not the official type, requiring 'royal ascent' or anything. YOu just call or email someone "dude, I need this report, send it to me, cheers", minute or two later you get it. Or you call them "mate, what is this, or what is that. Oh, cheers!" THis is not the 60s. Business is a lot more dynamic now. Move on with the times!

[Slip_]

I never said having pre-DLS it hasn't worked. We're talking about IMPROVEMENT remember? Making things easier! People tend to take an hour break between 12 and 2pm, sometime even past 2 if they take a late lunch. Up to them when they feel like it. Often almost every day you need to know something urgently where you are better off picking up the phone and calling the person, rather than emailing them and waiting long time for a reply. ANd often they're out at lunch. So effectively from 9am till 11am in Perth, there's a period where you are uncertain if you can even get in touch with them or not. When they come back from lunch, it's after 11. You go for lunch between 12 and 2. You come back at 2, they're gone home. It's ridiculous!
And it's not about managing resources! SO you are proposing people have a roster of when to take lunch?? What for? It's best to make it flexible for employees whether they want to leave at 12 or 1pm for lunch. Best to reduce this 3 hour difference,and not impose restrictions on employees.




Hoon laws is a perception. DLS is a real improvement. No one in public, other than cops and pollies thinks of hoon laws as an improvement. Look at this poll here. Over two thirds of antilag are saying that DLS is an improvement, not a perception.



We dealt with it. It was crap, but we dealt with it. Last three years was just heaps more easier and better with DLS.

KeyBoard Marathon!

If we NEED it that much... we'll get it.

[Ryan1080]

It's not about doing work well or not. It's the frustration of trying to find out somehting, or get hold of something when you need it there and then, and finding out you can't, for pretty much most of the day, and you gotta wait a long time.

Fark, no wonder they call this the backwards state.

[BOSS 290]

By the way, do you work in an office? I don't know about your work, but most correspondence in our business is not the official type, requiring 'royal ascent' or anything. YOu just call or email someone "dude, I need this report, send it to me, cheers", minute or two later you get it. Or you call them "mate, what is this, or what is that. Oh, cheers!" THis is not the 60s. Business is a lot more dynamic now. Move on with the times!

No I don't work in an office, I run my own business in the construction trade. I regularly require materials from Adelaide and Sydney, I know the cut off time for ordering my supplies. I try to work within the time constraints of DLS and non-DLS and deal with it.

I hope it doesn't get passed, but will accept it and move on if we get it.

[RICEY]

How ISNT it fail.



Pretty much!

In other words you have no arguement

[DISTRBD]

It's not about doing work well or not. It's the frustration of trying to find out somehting, or get hold of something when you need it there and then, and finding out you can't, for pretty much most of the day, and you gotta wait a long time.

Fark, no wonder they call this the backwards state.

Fuk how do the east coast go when dealing with WA , they wanna call some pingpingpingping at 8am when they kick off n every pingpingpingpings here asleep cause its 6am ..

[Ryan1080]

Fuk how do the east coast go when dealing with WA , they wanna call some pingpingpingping at 8am when they kick off n every pingpingpingpings here asleep cause its 6am ..

Exactly! With DLS they gotta wait til 10. Without DLS, they gotta wait till 11. So it;s better with DLS isn't it? :)

Actually, most offices open at 8:30-9, so it's more like, WA opens, east is out for lunch.

[space]

light later in the night does it for me.

[Slip_]

In other words you have no arguement

Huh?

He quite simply failed. You requesting me to substantiate my observation would not change that, nor support your argument.

'NEED'... 'progression''...'sophisticated society'...'we were like Monkeys'...

None of the above relate to DLS.

[Ryan1080]

Can't bothered arguing with this, over a keyboard. I'm just giving my (and my workmates') point of view. For us, as a business, it is beneficial. ANd as a business, we prefer DLS over non-DLS. Someone queried how it benefits business. I am telling you how, as I see it first hand, and I am personally affected by it. In the end, DLS benefits business. Enough said.

[Logie]

BIG FUCKING YES!

[Macca]

Can't bothered arguing with this, over a keyboard. I'm just giving my (and my workmates') point of view. For us, as a business, it is beneficial. ANd as a business, we prefer DLS over non-DLS. Someone queried how it benefits business. I am telling you how, as I see it first hand, and I am personally affected by it. In the end, DLS benefits business. Enough said.

dls makes no difference to business. damn i have been working in an office for 11yrs and we just adjust. personally i like it but trying to sway it on "business" is a crock of shit. Its either 2hrs diff or 3. 1 hr is fuckall

[Ryan1080]

Maybe I'm looking too much into it, but the timing seems to be better organised with DLS, see below:


Without DLS:

08:30 Perth - 11:30 east ; come to work
09:00 Perth - 12:00 east ; lunchtime period starts over east
11:00 Perth - 02:00 east ; lunchtime finishes over east
12:00 Perth - 03:00 east ; lunchtime period starts in perth
02:00 Perth - 05:00 east ; lunchtime period finshes in perth, east has gone home


With DLS
08:30 Perth - 10:30 east ; come to work
10:00 Perth - 12:00 east ; lunchtime period starts over east
12:00 Perth - 02:00 east ; lunchtime finishes over east, begins in perth
02:00 Perth - 04:00 east ; lunchtime period finshes in perth
03:00 Perth - 05:00 east ; east has gone home

Hence without DLS, you really only get a solid 1.5 hours in the day of guaranteed contact. DLS adds the extra hour of guaranteed contact, and relatively that makes a lot of difference.

ANyway, I care more for the after work reasons of DLS, than business reasons. Spending an hour longer at the beach after work is enough for me to say fark YES to DLS.

[ReaperSS]

love it!!!

[Sleekman]

Maybe I'm looking too much into it, but the timing seems to be better organised with DLS, see below:


Without DLS:

08:30 Perth - 11:30 east ; come to work
09:00 Perth - 12:00 east ; lunchtime period starts over east
11:00 Perth - 02:00 east ; lunchtime finishes over east
12:00 Perth - 03:00 east ; lunchtime period starts in perth
02:00 Perth - 05:00 east ; lunchtime period finshes in perth, east has gone home


With DLS
08:30 Perth - 10:30 east ; come to work
10:00 Perth - 12:00 east ; lunchtime period starts over east
12:00 Perth - 02:00 east ; lunchtime finishes over east, begins in perth
02:00 Perth - 04:00 east ; lunchtime period finshes in perth
03:00 Perth - 05:00 east ; east has gone home

Hence without DLS, you really only get a solid 1.5 hours in the day of guaranteed contact. DLS adds the extra hour of guaranteed contact, and relatively that makes a lot of difference.

ANyway, I care more for the after work reasons of DLS, than business reasons. Spending an hour longer at the beach after work is enough for me to say fark YES to DLS.

all business's and offices take 2 hour lunches?
and if the issues that important why cant you stay back 10 mins and deal with it or take a shorter lunch? if you can wait for 2 hours after lunch then it cant be that important. Since were so dynamic now why cant you use your mobile and pop a quick call during a 2 hour lunch which will be "dude, I need this report, send it to me, cheers", minute or two later you get it. Or you call them "mate, what is this, or what is that. Oh, cheers!"
or you have a pda emailing also works. I believe this is moving on with the times?

[nang3]

Daylight saving's is shit for me im a baker and go to sleep at 730pm and in summer with daylight saving's its still fucking light outside and hot voting 100% no the only people that benifit are the 9-5 r's who sit on their arse all day lazy pingpings

AC + curtains.


9-5 = lazy carnts mwahaha good one!!

I do 5am-2pm and love the extra hours of light cause i actually make use of them by going out and doing shit.

what hours you do, like midnight to 10am or something?

[Daisy]

DAYLIGHT SAVINGS REFERENDUM HAS BEEN CANCELLED due to "Hard economic climate"

[Ryan1080]

all business's and offices take 2 hour lunches?


Read my post again, people take an hour lunch break between 12 and 2 normally. Not for the full 2 hours :op:

Why should we take shorter lunch breaks, or work through lunch? If it can be fixed with DLS.

[Sleekman]

or you can priorities your work and contact east earlier before they close/lunch
ahead of other work/local
i didnt say work through lunch just a quick call as you say shouldnt take more then a min. surely it isnt to much time to give
its not like we all get to work at 9 on the spot and leave 5 on the dot

ps your examples never state "1 hr from 12-2' :confused:

[Ryan1080]

Yeah, easy to say. Sometimes you don't know you will need something, until you actually need it.

My main reason for voting YES is for being able to be outdoors after work for longer. Business is just an extra benefit.

[BOSS 290]

Read my post again, people take an hour lunch break between 12 and 2 normally. Not for the full 2 hours :op:

Why should we take shorter lunch breaks, or work through lunch? If it can be fixed with DLS.

Why, because in the current economic climate the employer has the ability to sift through the people who are capable of being flexible and giving those that aren't the boot. That's why.

I struggle to understand why it's so difficult to co-ordinate things with the 3 hour time difference. We did it for fuck knows how long pre DLS.

[Macca]

Yeah, easy to say. Sometimes you don't know you will need something, until you actually need it.

My main reason for voting YES is for being able to be outdoors after work for longer. Business is just an extra benefit.

for someone who mainly wants it just for outdoors, you rambled a whole heap of shit about business.

As has already been stated, WA survived before dls.

[Ryan1080]

Fark that. I want my lunch break thank you very much :) Current economic climate doesn't mean I will work like a slave with no breaks. Besides, not everyone's job is on the line.

Sorry for my rants, I'm obviously passionate about getting DLS through haha.

[Pantera999]

Meh to Daylight Savings. As with everything new, people adjust too it. It tripped me out but having light until 930pm when I was over there, it is dark by 630pm in the summer where I live in QLD.

It just saves you guys being three hours behind Vic/NSW, whcih would be alot worse than being only two years behind, which WA is all year round anyway. Since QLD doesn't have it, WA is onl one hour behind QLD during DLS period.

But I agree it should only be in Summer months.

[Sleekman]

if air con + curtains can help in DLS
then lights + heater can help with no DLS

only way id vote yes is if i got interest on my time

[AGIT8D]

Our head office for my previous job was based in Brisbane.. So our work started at 7 and finished at 3 to fit in with them...

But I rike DLS. Do want.

[DISTRBD]

it is dark by 630pm in the summer where I live in QLD.


Because you live in a HOLE :p