[track] 23 April - No Limits / Antilag Street Series Track Night

[FranZ]

Where: Wanneroo Raceway
When: 23 April - 1830 - 2300 (Scrutineering between 1700 - 1800, driver briefing at 1800-1830)
More Info: www.nolimitevents.com

Note: Also a round of the Antilag Street Series - Sponsored by Tech 9 Tyres and Nexen. For more info see: http://www.antilag.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25873

[Brockas]

Game on people :)


We also have CAMS approval for the street series now, so it can be run openly at the No Limits nights.

[cactus]

I'm going to this one woohoo

[doriae86]

sent my entry off for this today

[Spektor]

I'm already in

[monk_13]

just paid! spewing camber kit wont get here in time for it.

[confuzion]

I must be totally blind, i cant find the app form on their website (only their march one?)
Just had Wheels World alignment and Roll Centre Kit fitted so keen to test

[doriae86]

meh - i just used march one and crossed out march and put april and ammended the total to reflect the fact they are charging +15!

[Tocchi]

^^ i heard there are some CAMS changes as well, thus the delay in the April form???

[bjohnson]

Brett had forms for the entire year posted up,
They got taken down though.

My guess would be because they have to make some changes for CAMS.

[DREvo]

Well got my tyres today, front brake upgrade yesterday and getting the coilies set up for height, camber and alignment on the 23rd and looking to get the most out of the car on the night, bring it on >:]

[Sciflyer]

entry form is up

[Evilteddy]

http://www.nolimitevents.com/e107_files/public/1239009708_4_FT3220_23rd_april_entry_nlcc.pdf

For those of you that want the form.
My suggestion, get the form in ASAP

[tuyen]

Emailed entry/membership forms today. Netbanked money too.


Link to CAMS licence form doesn't work. Anyone got good link?

[MGR]

Emailed entry/membership forms today. Netbanked money too.


Link to CAMS licence form doesn't work. Anyone got good link?

Level 2 Speed (L2S) Application/Renewal
http://www.cams.com.au/Development/Get%20Involved/Competitors/~/media/Files/Development/Get%20Involved/Competitors/Licenses/CAMSLevel2LicRenewal.ashx

All CAMS competitor licences:
http://www.cams.com.au/Development/Get%20Involved/Competitors/Licence%20Types.aspx

[bjohnson]

If you haven't held a licence before then you can apply on the night.

[tuyen]

ok thanks for the info:)

[thnk_again]

yerp ill be there as well, has any one herd of sumitomo tyres? ill be runing these for directionals are they a good tyre? i normaly would get federal 595rs but there is a short in 18's atm i hear.

[Tocchi]

sumitomo tyres are good... softish tyre (for a road tyre, not comparing to r-comps) and it paints hard! i use them on the FG and they offer heaps of grip :)

[Brockas]

Only a couple of days away :)

I should be up there taking photos.

[confuzion]

woot should be fun :D i've only ever been in the daytime, whats it like at night?

[Tocchi]

woot should be fun :D i've only ever been in the daytime, whats it like at night?

slightly darker

[doriae86]

corolla entry confirmed. stand by for 5 min lap times

[confuzion]

slightly darker

yeh awsome

[Brockas]

Lighting at night means there is very little difference, except track is colder (slightly less traction) and air is colder (slightly more power).

[Lonewolf]

corolla entry confirmed. stand by for 5 min lap times

cant be much slower than me haha.
have fun guys, be there next month

[DREvo]

And hopefully no rain. mmmmmm cold dense air for forced induction goooood :p

[monk_13]

New rear tyres on, brakes bled, new clutch and flywheel working beautifully, BRING THIS SHIT ON.

[Tocchi]

small turnout 2moro :)

1. Shane Hardie - Nissan 350Z
2. Vaughan Secomb -
3. Mathew Iemma - WH Holden Statesman
4. Phil Gibson - Toyota Soarer
5. Alem Ceric - Subaru WRX STi
6. Hansen Ong - Porshe 996TT
7. Ben Johnson - Ford XR4
8. Rickie Lin - Honda S2000
9. Kuet Chai - Honda Integra Type R
10. John Otter - Mitsubishi Evo 2 RS
11. Leigh Gray - Mitsubishi Evo
12. Mark Greenham - Ford FG XR6T
13. Tuyen Nguyen - Honda Civic VTiR
14. Glenn Ashley - Nissan Skyline GTST
15. Minh Hieu Nguyen - Mitsubishi Evo IX
16. Matt Bertocchi - Ford XR8
17. Dylan Cameron -
18. Ben Walker - Mitsubishi Evo 3
19. Brett Stapleton - Mitsubishi Evo 9
20. Gavin Beer - R32 GTR
21. Ryan Kim - Honda Civic
22. Glenn Sarti - MItsubishi Lancer
23. Mathew Wallis - Mitsubishi Evo 6.5

[Evilteddy]

Expect a few more than that to actually be there tomorrow night if it's not raining... :) Should be a good night... n6000's are almost dead and no give in the rear suspension... YAYYYYY :(

[Spektor]

Aye. The entry list hasn't been updated for a bit. Got the car ready last night. Looking forward to setting a new PB

[Evilteddy]

Good to see you out again Glenn...

Have to flush gearbox fluid when i get home and then i'm up for some slippery action :)

[Tocchi]

guys remember to bring the shovels... no doubt a ship will run a-ground at cat corner :p

[TJ]

Shall come up for a look I think.

[TJ]

Good mix of cars and faces tonight.

Boo @ 7pm start.

[Lonewolf]

scrutineering hold up again?

[iluv2moan]

Good mix of cars and faces tonight.

Boo @ 7pm start.

that would be earlier then last month yeah??

[FranZ]

Results at: http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results.cgi?23/04/2009.BARB

[monk_13]

Good night. Spewing I didnt get a few more laps in, and I definitely need better brakes. New PB though, 1:03.4708, so I'm happy. See yas all at the next one.

[Spektor]

Please note Position #6 :naughty:



1 24 Irwin Lim Mitsubishi Evo 9 21 6 0:54.7586*
2 36 Rob Hoare Subaru Liberty 21 13 0:55.9427 0:01.1841
3 5 Chris Reynolds Nissan Skyline 23 23 0:56.5096 0:01.7510
4 11 Hansen Ong Porsche 996 Turbo 28 26 0:57.1194 0:02.3608
5 23 Gavin Beer Nissan Skyline 28 9 0:57.2912 0:02.5326
6 25 Glenn Sarti Lancer Coupe 22 21 0:57.4412 0:02.6826
7 20 John Otter Mitsubishi Evo 2 13 8 0:57.5065 0:02.7479
8 15 Leigh Gray Mitsubishi Evo 7 19 14 0:57.8293 0:03.0707
9 14 Minh Nguyen Mitsubishi Evo 9 23 22 0:58.7489 0:03.9903
10 9 Alem Aceric Subaru WRX STi 20 20 0:59.1177 0:04.3591
11 22 Phil Gibson Toyota Soarer 25 24 0:59.1867 0:04.4281
12 34 Brett Stapleton Mitsubishi Evo 9 21 21 0:59.1902 0:04.4316


Shame it wasn't me driving but still. I'm loving my new setup!

[doriae86]

happy with my corolla doing a 1.02.08 for a first outing.

def more in it with some practice. Heaps more in it with a lsd!

[Lonewolf]

some pretty good times there!

[Tocchi]

scrutineering.. well... thanks CAMS... almost didnt get to race tonight due to having NO VALVE CAPS on tyres !!!

i had a blast tonight.

ended up with a 63.5554 on last lap of night
(instructor 63.4131)

epic happy

[doriae86]

Please note Position #6 :naughty:



1 24 Irwin Lim Mitsubishi Evo 9 21 6 0:54.7586*
2 36 Rob Hoare Subaru Liberty 21 13 0:55.9427 0:01.1841
3 5 Chris Reynolds Nissan Skyline 23 23 0:56.5096 0:01.7510
4 11 Hansen Ong Porsche 996 Turbo 28 26 0:57.1194 0:02.3608
5 23 Gavin Beer Nissan Skyline 28 9 0:57.2912 0:02.5326
6 25 Glenn Sarti Lancer Coupe 22 21 0:57.4412 0:02.6826
7 20 John Otter Mitsubishi Evo 2 13 8 0:57.5065 0:02.7479
8 15 Leigh Gray Mitsubishi Evo 7 19 14 0:57.8293 0:03.0707
9 14 Minh Nguyen Mitsubishi Evo 9 23 22 0:58.7489 0:03.9903
10 9 Alem Aceric Subaru WRX STi 20 20 0:59.1177 0:04.3591
11 22 Phil Gibson Toyota Soarer 25 24 0:59.1867 0:04.4281
12 34 Brett Stapleton Mitsubishi Evo 9 21 21 0:59.1902 0:04.4316


Shame it wasn't me driving but still. I'm loving my new setup!

loving your lancer man - giant killer!

[Soul]

damn that's an awesome time

fun fun :D

[Qu3xy]

Glen Ashley Nissan Skyline 1:00.3055
Gordon Reynolds Nissan Skyline 1:00.5675
Mike Georgiou Nissan Skyline 1:01.0272
Geoff Weir Subaru Impreza 1:01.3292

Beat PB by a second and I'm only just behind those skylines! :-)

Nice meeting people and putting names to faces; Tochie, Monk, Spektor - :wave: Hai!

[iluv2moan]

anyone on the nexxans tonight?

[Spektor]

anyone on the nexxans tonight?
There were quite a few yes.

[Tocchi]

Geoff, just remember that fire extinguisher ;)

i was on the nexens, as was chris & glenn that i know of

[Brockas]

Chris
Glen
Gordon
Tocchi
Tuyen
John Otter

all on the Nexens...

[Brockas]

Will post some more pics up later, but damn it's hard shooting a dark car moving fast at night....

http://i41.tinypic.com/qyu0q9.jpg

[Qu3xy]

I was on Nexans too.

Bloody hoons, put on your valve caps!

[Sciflyer]

Yeh event is obviously under a bit more scrutiny now, getting picky with checking the cars

I got picked up on a few things which is fair enough, but they really shouldve started scrut earlier if it was going to take so long!

Geoff, Glenn, Matt - nice to meet you guys, fun night

[Shauno]

Was good to come down and see some cars in action, Highlight was the lancer keeping up with all the others haha good effort

[Evilteddy]

Glen Ashley Nissan Skyline 1:00.3055
Gordon Reynolds Nissan Skyline 1:00.5675
Mike Georgiou Nissan Skyline 1:01.0272
Geoff Weir Subaru Impreza 1:01.3292

Beat PB by a second and I'm only just behind those skylines! :-)

Nice meeting people and putting names to faces; Tochie, Monk, Spektor - :wave: Hai!

Unfortunately that wasn't me driving... Best i managed was a 1:01:3xx i think...

[Spektor]

Chris
Glen
Gordon
Tocchi
Tuyen
John Otter

all on the Nexens...
Brett Stapelton was aswell.



Was good to come down and see some cars in action, Highlight was the lancer keeping up with all the others haha good effortThanks! The new engine and suspension are working out well. Still got a way to go though. Car should be good for 56s.

I'll be posting up the No Limits Times today or tomorrow. The Street Series times will follow soon after that.

I should probably point out that the 57.4 was by Fogz, my PB was 59.2, which is still decent.

[BAS]

Damn Glen, looks like i am going to have to re-attach my balls next time.

Those Nexens aren't bad, totally different to RE55's though, felt like a different car. Its a good challenge to drive them though, probably more fun as the car is moving all over the place.

Anyone still considering having a go with them i can highly recommend.

[lukits01]

Brett Stapelton was aswell.


Thanks! The new engine and suspension are working out well. Still got a way to go though. Car should be good for 56s.

I'll be posting up the No Limits Times today or tomorrow. The Street Series times will follow soon after that.

I should probably point out that the 57.4 was by Fogz, my PB was 59.2, which is still decent.

was that PB on Nexens?

I was on the Nexens too, finally got used to the limits of these tires. At the start the sidewalls was deforming all the way down to the top of the 'NEXEN' writing ahaha. so much work to wrestle the car, good fun.

also spotted Chris Reynold doing massive burnout on them when officials werent looking LoL

[Spektor]

was that PB on Nexens?Nope. R888's. Nexen's didn't come in my size amongst other things.

[TJ]

Damn, its a massive indication of truly how much pace is generated from tyre choice when you look at some of the times back to back.

[djr81]

scrutineering.. well... thanks CAMS... almost didnt get to race tonight due to having NO VALVE CAPS on tyres !!!

Getting your car past scrutineering is not rocket surgery (or shouldn't be). The report lists the following as needing checking:
Fire extinguisher - securely mounted & in date.
Helmet (AS 1698 minimum)
Bonnet secure
Engine - oil leaks (catch can required if vented to atmosphere)
Throttle return springs.
battery firmly secured/encased
Hydraulic system leaks
Accelerator pedal
Steering - check for play
Seat attachments secure
Seat belts - type & installation
Tyres - front & rear (check for valve caps)
Steering arms, rods, ball joints
hubs, wheel bearings
windscreen wipers (if fitted)
blue triangle
stop lights.

So yes you do need valve caps - metal ones at that as the plastic ones melt.

[TJ]

You do not need a triangle - not one car out there last night had one.

[Qu3xy]

The S2000 had a red (?) triangle for the battery.

[TJ]

Well ok, 1 out of 40 cars. Points the same really.

[Tocchi]

ended up with a 63.5554 on last lap of night
(instructor 63.4131)

had another look - 63.4131 was done on lap 13 of 15. that was me driving then :) yay :)



*edit* yeh DJR81, nobody seemed to know of the ammended CAMS rules. but they are the rules. so in future everybody now knows :)

[iluv2moan]

may i ask why need valve caps?? worried abut dirt getting into them and deflating tyres??

[GTRgav]

:)
Will post some more pics up later, but damn it's hard shooting a dark car moving fast at night....

http://i41.tinypic.com/qyu0q9.jpg

First night "back in the saddle" after 8 months out. Was pleasantly suprised at how well the Nexans performed given the narrow width and the cheap price. Still managed to provide enough grip to warm up the rotors :)

[Evilteddy]

Well ok, 1 out of 40 cars. Points the same really.

Both Chris and Gordon Reynolds have triangles to locate battery.
ProtoHoare as well...
That little bathtub thing i think i remember seeing that with one as well...
The Autech GTR had one on the boot...

and the ratio comes down when there was 31drivers...

[TJ]

5/6 out of 31 still doesnt make it a mandatory item.

[Evilteddy]

WHAT THE HELL...
Just because they didn't 'crack' down on hardly anyone having triangles, doesn't mean it's not mandatory...
The number of cars that have them, doesn't alter if it's in the regulations or not.

While you're sitting there hardly doing anywork, why don't you print out some triangles to stick on peoples cars then? So at the next event, we can all drive our cars within the regulations.

[TJ]

I dont think your getting my point.

I was trying to say its a bit of a joke that they picked on something like valve caps when they are letting go other things. If they were using the excuse of "its the regs" its pretty pathetic when they let other stuff go.

Wasnt having a go at the regs or whatever, just saying that its a fucking joke when they cost you guys at least an hour of track time when they do shit like that.

That is why, rather then print triangles out, I discussed last night how much one needs to do to become an official scrutineer for CAMS. Not that much, and considering Im already 2 steps into the process, ill probably finish it off and then offer to help out when time allows.

[Sciflyer]

yep there was no mention of it when they scrut my car but they could hardly have enforced it anyway, since no one was told it was a requirement, it certainly wasnt at previous events...

Still its no big deal, you can make the triangle with 3 bits of blue insulating tape if you have to, i think they need to be 150mm

But yes def. need to speed up the process and more scrutineers would be the obvious solution

[TJ]

To me, a battery switch off point is more important then a valve cap. Especially when they had a car in the wall last time, ie big hit leaking tank, spark, trouble.

But to not fuss about it as opposed to saying you need a valve cap is ludicrous.

[Qu3xy]

I had to go down to Supercheap to get a new fire extinguisher last night, because my now ex-extinguisher was undercharged. Good spot by scrutineering, but annoying none the less.

I'll fire off the extinguisher tonight and see if it really is undercharged!

[Tocchi]

go to Go Gear for an extinguisher. $48 last time i got mine :)


btw, on the topic on extinguisher... they have to be stamped every year right?

[Kilma]

Vids are required.

[Tocchi]

ok crisis adverted, i hit up a shop today. we all can sleep at night now :)

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2081/24042009139.jpg

[djr81]

Bloody hell world war three has broken out over valve caps.

This stuff should be simple.

The list is there, just make sure your car complies with all the items before you front up - even the fkn gay pride triangle. None of it is hard.

Just because someone elses car doesn't comply or the scrutineers missed/ignored other stuff isn't much of a excuse.

As for time being wasted scrutineering pre event - maybe this is an idea - the speedeventseries insists Perth competitors get it done the week prior to the event. So us country numpties waste less time hanging around getting it done the morning of the event. A similar idea may well work for the nolimits nights - ie pre event scrutineering.

[djr81]

go to Go Gear for an extinguisher. $48 last time i got mine :)


btw, on the topic on extinguisher... they have to be stamped every year right?

The easiest/cheapest place to get an extinguisher is usually Bunnings. There are a couple of tricks:
1. Look at the date of manufacture stamp on them extinguisher body & buy the most recent one you can find. They are basically lifed from time of manufacture as I understand it.
2. Be careful to get the correct type - there are heaps of different ones. They need to be AS1841. But there are a number of sub categories - ie type of extinguishers. So get the right one.
3. Inspections are supposed to be every 6 months.

[DISTRBD]

As for time being wasted scrutineering pre event - maybe this is an idea - the speedeventseries insists Perth competitors get it done the week prior to the event. So us country numpties waste less time hanging around getting it done the morning of the event. A similar idea may well work for the nolimits nights - ie pre event scrutineering.


ANDRA system good also , random audit of car .. onus on the owners to have it right

[confuzion]

Had heaps of fun last night.. the 'event' was certainly interesting but I learnt a lesson and lap times improved dramatically with the help of Jai.. pretty happy with a 59.1.. now just have to try catch up to those evo's :)

[Lonewolf]

Bloody hell world war three has broken out over valve caps.

This stuff should be simple.

The list is there, just make sure your car complies with all the items before you front up - even the fkn gay pride triangle. None of it is hard.

Just because someone elses car doesn't comply or the scrutineers missed/ignored other stuff isn't much of a excuse.

As for time being wasted scrutineering pre event - maybe this is an idea - the speedeventseries insists Perth competitors get it done the week prior to the event. So us country numpties waste less time hanging around getting it done the morning of the event. A similar idea may well work for the nolimits nights - ie pre event scrutineering.

The issue is that its only recently been required.
Last month, there was no mention about valve caps, triangles and other such extra stuff, by either No Limits themselves, or the CAMS scrutineers.

Makes it hard for people just getting into motorsport if they are not told the actual regulations they have to adhere to....

Pre-scrutineering is great, but doesnt that kind of defeat the purpose?

[TJ]

Hehe Alem, certainly gave us value for money coming up.

So glad to see nothing bad come of it... bar im guessing a dirty interior!

[confuzion]

Yeah bulk sand inside haha.. and in my mouth!
All good.. :)

[Turbo2.6L]

The easiest/cheapest place to get an extinguisher is usually Bunnings. There are a couple of tricks:
1. Look at the date of manufacture stamp on them extinguisher body & buy the most recent one you can find. They are basically lifed from time of manufacture as I understand it.
2. Be careful to get the correct type - there are heaps of different ones. They need to be AS1841. But there are a number of sub categories - ie type of extinguishers. So get the right one.
3. Inspections are supposed to be every 6 months.

Easy to get extinguisher that meets the standards...

http://www.searleraceequipment.com.au/shop/view/fire_extinguisher_1kg/18

[Qu3xy]

Can we just use electrical tape to make a triangle, or do we need a specific battery triangle?

[djr81]

The issue is that its only recently been required.
Last month, there was no mention about valve caps, triangles and other such extra stuff, by either No Limits themselves, or the CAMS scrutineers.

Makes it hard for people just getting into motorsport if they are not told the actual regulations they have to adhere to....

Pre-scrutineering is great, but doesnt that kind of defeat the purpose?
Did you get/read the red book you would have got with your L2S licence.

[Spektor]

Yeah but car eligibility is not determined by the drivers licence. It's the event licence. Now that they've gone from a driver training to a sprint licence, car eligibility has changed.

[Lonewolf]

Did you get/read the red book you would have got with your L2S licence.

Sure did, doesnt mean that every rule in there is applicable in this instance.
The event went from a training event with scrutineering performed by No Limits staff, to training/whatever event with scrutineering performed by CAMS officials.

For a newcomer (who may have signed up for his cams licence on the night, or week before), or people who dont do it very often, its an issue.

Obviously theres no real problem at the moment, as scrutineers are letting some stuff slide, and I'm sure Jai will post up any updated regulations that are required as soon as he can.
This should mean people have time to be prepared rather than get to the track, and be stopped from participating.

[TJ]

Bingo - it does no one well if someones stopped on the night after driving to wanners.

Person is pissed off - $150 - $$$$$ preparing goes to waste
No Limits - they look like idiots, and their name gets muddied by the angry people affected.
CAMS itself - im sure they scrutineer takes no pleasure in doing so, but has to follow the rules.

[iluv2moan]

none of this scrutineering problems explain why cars arent on the track at 6

[Lonewolf]

none of this scrutineering problems explain why cars arent on the track at 6

it does if the cams scrutineers arent there early enough, but also if there are not enough of them, or No Limits staff arent there as well.
Unfortunately No Limits staff/CAMS scrutineers have day Jobs I guess, i'm sure this is the same for the entrants too, who arent happy to be standing around waiting while their track time disappears.

[djr81]

Bingo - it does no one well if someones stopped on the night after driving to wanners.

Person is pissed off - $150 - $$$$$ preparing goes to waste
No Limits - they look like idiots, and their name gets muddied by the angry people affected.
CAMS itself - im sure they scrutineer takes no pleasure in doing so, but has to follow the rules.
I would suggest that if there was a fundamental problem then the No Limits people would get to a reasonable conclusion.

No one needs much of an excuse to bag out Cams. They appear to be the all purpose bogey man. They do however, have to ensure all the OH & S bullsh!t gets adhered to. Which explains all the interminable drivers briefings etc.

Anyway the red book contains schedule B General requirements for Automobiles in Speed Events. It is 2 pages long. The pages themselves are only 150mm x 100mm. Hardly an onerous read.

Someone may like to suggest to the No Limits people they publish a list of requirements for the car (eg what you need to do) & for the drivers, eg what you need to wear. That would limit the scope for conflict on the night & help scrutineering move along quicker.

The driver is, at the end of the day, responsible for his own car/arse. I sometimes wish people would invest more time in preparation than in after the fact goat scaping.

[iluv2moan]

it does if the cams scrutineers arent there early enough, but also if there are not enough of them, or No Limits staff arent there as well.
Unfortunately No Limits staff/CAMS scrutineers have day Jobs I guess, i'm sure this is the same for the entrants too, who arent happy to be standing around waiting while their track time disappears.

they shouldnt be running the event if staff cant rock up to do their job early enough - unless they all volunteers - in which case they should be getting paid

[TJ]

none of this scrutineering problems explain why cars arent on the track at 6

Well it helps explain it. I believe that there can be only one drivers briefing, which has to be held after cars are scrutineered.

Spending 30 minutes arguing over wheel caps = 30 min wasted.

[iluv2moan]

Well it helps explain it. I believe that there can be only one drivers briefing, which has to be held after cars are scrutineered.

Spending 30 minutes arguing over wheel caps = 30 min wasted.

easy fix - hold briefing before scruitineering, then people can argue over valve caps while the others are on the track

[TJ]

Agreed

[MGR]

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For those interested here's a small video clip from the night:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JAePwso9_Q&fmt=18

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[Lonewolf]

Someone may like to suggest to the No Limits people they publish a list of requirements for the car (eg what you need to do) & for the drivers, eg what you need to wear. That would limit the scope for conflict on the night & help scrutineering move along quicker.

The driver is, at the end of the day, responsible for his own car/arse. I sometimes wish people would invest more time in preparation than in after the fact goat scaping.

They do provide a list:
Vehicle Requirements: - Road registered/road worthy
- Minimum of 1kg fire extinguisher bolted in a place that it is easily accessible (can be purchased though us ~$65)
- NO loose items.

Driver Requirements: - CAMS Level 2 Speed License (this will be on offer on the night)
- Current Australian Class C drivers license
- Long pants
- Long sleeved cotton shirt
- Enclosed shoes
- Certified motorbike/race car helmet
- 0% blood alcohol

The issue is one of two things
a) Cams didnt tell No limits about the required extras that have recently become a requirement
b) No limits didnt inform entrants

Think of it from a guy new to motorsport.
He gets told he needs the above, turns up, and someone tells him he needs a battery triangle and cant go on the track.
Hardly a good outcome for anyone.

anyway, probably just teething items, but will wait and see what next month brings!

[tuyen]

very smooth driving there MGR! thanks for the vid :)

[Tocchi]

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For those interested here's a small video clip from the night:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JAePwso9_Q&fmt=18

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yeh FG powah yo !!!! :)

[Evilteddy]

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For those interested here's a small video clip from the night:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JAePwso9_Q&fmt=18

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Blue falcon?

What sort of times were you running?

[Brockas]

also spotted Chris Reynold doing massive burnout on them when officials werent looking LoL

I LIKE THIS!

[MGR]

Blue falcon?

What sort of times were you running?

Yep, the FG XR6T with the slush box. I think it's best was a 59.4

Was that your R32 ahead?

[Sciflyer]

Heres mine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0XqAzBm6DY

What camera are you using Mark? Wide angle lens is definately the way to go, ive just got a standard Handycam and you dont get the same impression of speed

BTW your Street Cars footage is awesome!

[MGR]

Heres mine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0XqAzBm6DY

What camera are you using Mark? Wide angle lens is definately the way to go, ive just got a standard Handycam and you dont get the same impression of speed

BTW your Street Cars footage is awesome!

Using the POV1 camera kits available from here:
www.mgr.net.au (http://www.mgr.net.au) ;)

You're dead right about the wide angle lens. If your camera is a Sony then you can probably pick up an external wide angle lens at a reasonable cost. You may also want to disable the 'steady-shot' or 'anti-shake' function of your camera when bolting it into the car. That will get rid of the movement in the footage which makes it look like the camera wasn't secured properly.

The POV1 kits are piece of cake to use. The remote bullet lens is weather proof and can be mounted just about anywhere. You can mount it outside the car even if it's pouring with rain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLtoPSjrFlY&fmt=18

The footage on Youtube is compressed (for bandwidth reasons) but the original recorded footage is much better. Most of the 'Street Cars' run of these kits. A good sample video from different cars and angles would be this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiwSfwuo6l0&fmt=18

There's cheaper cameras on the market which claim similar specs on paper (ie resolution, framerate etc) but in reality they all suffer dropped frames and use a shitty encoding algorithm resulting in poor quality footage.

If you in the market for a new camera make sure you get actual raw sample footage before handing over your hard earned cash.

You car sound fucking great BTW! Turns in a shitload better than my barge too!

[Sciflyer]

yer its ok for a n/a 4-speed tank haha

So no problems with CAMS with mounting these?

[MGR]

yer its ok for a n/a 4-speed tank haha

So no problems with CAMS with mounting these?

No problems. They much prefer you mount a 'bullet' cam to a roll cage rather than a heavy handicam.

[FranZ]

Just wondering, are supp regs posted before the event along with the entry form? The supp regs highlight event details in addition to standard speed event (sprint) rules.

Everyone can whinge and bitch about "not" knowing all the regs; but at the end of day they are all available on www.camsmanual.com.au; its just a matter of finding them.

Regarding battery triangles; its always been a requirement by CAMS to have a blue triangle indicating where the battery is, I would have thought they would have been needed when No Limits were running their nights as "driver training" nights.


If Im not mistaken, for quite sometime its been mandatory for bikes in racing to have valve caps as they can be some aid in the even that a valve fails. I can only assume that CAMS have now adopted this rule for cars for the same reason.

[Sciflyer]

The Supp regs are given out on the night, i have a copy here and there is no mention of what standard cars have to be

The website also does not mention anything other than having a roadworthy car and a fire extinguisher

This is where the confusion arose. If cars will be scrutinised according to set CAMS rules then perhaps that shouldve been pointed out somewhere as it obviously wasnt apparent to first/second timers like myself, particularly when previous scrutineering has consisted of nothing more than checking lights, seatbelts and helmets.

If everyone was aware of these additional requirements im sure the scrutineering wouldnt have taken as long as it did

I dont have a problem with the rules at all or the No Limits guys, they are great events and im sure everyone appreciates the work that goes into running them, it was just an oversight somewhere and needed to be better explained

[FranZ]

hrmmm, I thought in CAMS events supp regs are supposed to be released when the entry form is released?

Supp regs should refer to the type of the event and what permit the event comes under; you can then go to the CAMS manual for the requirements.

[Qu3xy]

Brockas! MOAR PICS!

[BAS]

They have become a speed event because of the Antilag series tacking on, therefore increased requirements on cars to comply. Driver training events are more lax.

[bjohnson]

Anybody manage to snap some photo's on the night?

[doriae86]

dogbank did, too lazy to post it seems ;)

[Brockas]

fak, hard task masters....


Most of them didn't come out, I need more practise shooting at night :p


http://www.antilag.com/brockas/Photos/StreetSeries/Street-Series001.jpg
http://www.antilag.com/brockas/Photos/StreetSeries/Street-Series002.jpg
http://www.antilag.com/brockas/Photos/StreetSeries/Street-Series003.jpg
http://www.antilag.com/brockas/Photos/StreetSeries/Street-Series004.jpg
http://www.antilag.com/brockas/Photos/StreetSeries/Street-Series005.jpg
http://www.antilag.com/brockas/Photos/StreetSeries/Street-Series006.jpg
http://www.antilag.com/brockas/Photos/StreetSeries/Street-Series007.jpg

[confuzion]

those came out pretty good dude!

[Qu3xy]

Yeah man, look sweet as. Moar! :-P

[MGR]

Good pics Brockas. Especially seeing as it's near on impossible to get good shots in those lighting conditions from that distance.

[Brockas]

Good pics Brockas. Especially seeing as it's near on impossible to get good shots in those lighting conditions from that distance.

Thank boys, yeh with the light on the other side and the dark cars moving so fast, its bloody difficult!

[Milhouse]

nice pics paul, using tripod or just steady grip ?

just goes to show how important brakes are, even the n/a honda civic was getting them red hot !

[Tocchi]

nice pics paul, using tripod or just steady grip ?

just goes to show how important brakes are, even the n/a honda civic was getting them red hot !


dont discount that Civic... it aint no normal Honda... caged 'n stuff :)

[Brockas]

nice pics paul, using tripod or just steady grip ?

No tripod, will try again next time and see if I can get the pics a little clearer.