[rally] (Dutton) AUSTRALIAN TARMAC CHALLENGE

[Brockas]

Dutton has changed its name to the Australian Tarmac Challenge.


Got this as an e-mail today. Entry fee last year was about $2300, and this year its apparently cheaper.

16-18 October


"The Australian Tarmac Challenge!

Formerly the Dutton Rally, the Australian Tarmac Challenge (ATC) is the old Dutton you know – but we have had the old girl on the treadmill, down to the plastic surgeon and onto the weight training.

New ownership, new location.

The Australian Tarmac Challenge is located in the Fast Track Australia corporate headquarters at 119 Salmon St Port Melbourne, with our new team as follows:

Anthony Moss – Series Director
Rennie De Maria – Managing Director
Mat Ishac – Series Operations Manager
Mark O’Connor – Technical advisor
Kurt Stiles – Motorsport advisor

Our team will still be assisted by James Taylor (Clerk of Course, Race Solutions), Bruce Foote (Scoring- MDB Consulting) and our many volunteers and officials who make Australian Motorsport possible.

What makes the Australian Tarmac Challenge different:

Firstly, the old system of Handicap and Outright Championships will go – and in comes a completely new system – Street Production, Club and Motorsport Championships. All three will have equal weighting and equal significance. Don’t want to bring the GT3 Porsche or the EVO IX MR? Bring the M3, the HSV Clubby, or even the Mazda 3 MPS instead – the Championships are designed to encourage anyone to enter and compete on-par with similar vehicles.

Secondly, the events have changed. Some dramatically, some only slightly. Our credo is to provide you with the most motorsport activity we can fit into 3 days at great venues, and this is what we will do. If its not a motorsport venue, we will make it one – and this will become evident as we progress through the 2009 Series.

We will head to Western Australia for event 3, for more fun at Collie, Perth Motorplex, AHG and Barbagallo Raceway. Don’t think Perth will be tame though, we are aiming for a complete shakeup of Collie, Motorplex and AHG – think head to head, mate against mate timed challenges and you will start to get the idea.

Confirmed 2009 dates are:
Event 1: Victoria 29-31 May
Event 2: New South Wales 3-6 September
Event 3: Western Australia 16-18 October

Now we know that some of you will be thinking that the 2009 Motorsport budget is not looking too good at the moment, and you might think that all this sounds great, but will probably cost more right? Well, WRONG! The 2009 Series will be even more affordable than ever with different events different costs, and our low-fat Tarmac Challenge Diet designed to make it more affordable for you without taking out any motorsport or any fun stuff. Some of the dinners have gone, but we have replaced these with 10pm presentations at local pubs each night. The media stuff will stay and we are looking at more ways to promote your sponsors online and with video footage, with more options for you to choose in each package.

So hang up the race boots and park the full-blown racing car. Steal the daily driver from the wife and come and have some fun with us!

We will be releasing pricing, packages and full schedules in the next week or so. Of course if you want to make a deposit to secure your entry now, don’t hesitate! We envisage 2009 will be a huge year – bring on the 2009 Australian Tarmac Challenge!

See you on the black stuff.

Cheers,
Anthony Moss
Series Director
Australian Tarmac Challenge Pty Ltd"

[KPWISHN]

Sounds good. :naughty:

Is there any where we can find out more details? Link? Or is it still too early?

Would love to set the clubby up and give this a go.

[DISTRBD]

Plenty of time to get new car built

[Kappo]

This sounds sick, been wanting a way to get into it.

[Turbo2.6L]

So can you just enter the WA events or do you need to go to all states?
Sounds like some good fun!

[BassMstr]

So can you just enter the WA events or do you need to go to all states?
Sounds like some good fun!

Can just do the WA round. If you want to compete in the series you have to 2 out of 3 rounds as it was last year.


Doing it again this year ... see what happens to what car we using.

Always a good weekend :beer:

[Lonewolf]

price is a major determination for me, but either way it sounds like some good improvements

[Fryman]

interesting approach.

dutton is great fun, but .. well its great fun!

seems like a large direction change by the guys that run the show.

[Brockas]

price is a major determination for me, but either way it sounds like some good improvements

I'd be expecting it to be in the $1800-$2100 range for a single entry.

around $2800 for a Driver and Co-driver if you have someone else who wants to split costs.


(Just guesses, as last year it was $2,300 and $3k)

[Spektor]

seems like a large direction change by the guys that run the show."New ownership, new location." may explain that.

[DISTRBD]

We will have old red pinny there n Williams new car , october date makes life easy for us now ..

[Denver]

will be there all going to plan with the improved black thing

[Spektor]

I'm pissed off though because it conflicts with our EVO vs WRX day in Collie AND the LF Speed Event Series in Collie :-(

[BassMstr]

will be there all going to plan with the improved black thing


What is going to smash this year? :hahano:

[Volatile Rob]

Looking forward to it again... whatever car I enter in... :)

[TJ]

"New ownership, new location." may explain that.

Well Anthony Moss is still there running the show so to speak so ownership hasnt really changed.

The name missing might have alot to do with it ... Sam Beck. A great character.

[Rantopotamus]

I think powercruise is the weekend b4 or after also.. October looks FUN!

[Kappo]

humm.... deff thinking bout it now, is there any links to the website for new updates yet?

[Brockas]

http://www.australiantarmacchallenge.com


Just got another e-mail. Entry price released for the Vic round (should be similar for us)....

$1,250 per driver.


That is SERIOUSLY cheap.

[Fryman]

you keep getting those emails yet nobody else does :D

[Brockas]

Feel like tj n shit

[DISTRBD]

you keep getting those emails yet nobody else does :D

We didnt do looop to looops at last stage :p

[BassMstr]

you keep getting those emails yet nobody else does :D

Guess your on the do not email list :D

I got the email twice ... like i do with all dutton emails

[ADZ]

To show last email for those that didnt get:

Entry Fee: $1,250 per driver

Entry conditions and inclusions:

Entry is available for all Australian Road Registered cars (rally plate and other conditional registration on application).
Entry price is per driver, maximum two drivers per car. CAMS insurance is not included, 2009 pricing is TBC but will be approximately $190 per car.
Entry includes lunch daily, nightly presentation functions, welcome breakfast, 2x tickets to presentation function, event merchandise, promotional DVD, event decals and route book.

[Kilma]

To show last email for those that didnt get:

Entry Fee: $1,250 per driver

Entry conditions and inclusions:

Entry is available for all Australian Road Registered cars (rally plate and other conditional registration on application).
Entry price is per driver, maximum two drivers per car. CAMS insurance is not included, 2009 pricing is TBC but will be approximately $190 per car.

WOW!!! At that price, I could almost enter the Falcon for shits and giggles to come last... and it would be worth it!!!

[BassMstr]

WOW!!! At that price, I could almost enter the Falcon for shits and giggles to come last... and it would be worth it!!!

If your car is still running at the end of the event then i doubt you come last. Never know whats going to happen cos thats racing....

[Volatile Rob]

Fuck it... I'm in

I wasn't going to, but looks like I'll still have the Evo.

Who else is entered?

[bjohnson]

I'm seriously considering it.

If you look in the regs the entry fee is $990 per driver (plus that extra hundred or so of CAMS insurance).

EPIC value!

[Brockas]

I'm seriously considering it.

If you look in the regs the entry fee is $990 per driver (plus that extra hundred or so of CAMS insurance).

EPIC value!

I'm not sure about the 'epic value' part.

There's no Wanneroo, no AHG, and I'm not sure Collie has been booked?

$990 for cones in a carpark would be shit, but I'll wait until there is confirmation of the events before I decide yes/no.

[Denver]

Its going to be a pretty lonely event, a lot, read the majority, of the regular faces are not bothering...

theres only a couple people ive spoken to who'd normally drop everything to enter the event that are actually competing...

i don't think a confirmed date is even released as the dates they have listed currently collide with other events being run at the various venues..

[DISTRBD]

Im not running

[Daisy]

neither would i, most people enter their car :)

[Volatile Rob]

I just spoke to Anthony Moss...

He has confirmed Collie Motorplex, AHG, Kwinana Motorplex & Barbagallo as venues.

So far he hasn't seen many entries, most likely due to the State Sprint Series Championship on the Sunday & the uncertainty of the events & locations.

He's going to send out an email to everyone within the next few days with an event schedule to try and spark up some interest

Rob

[Brockas]

Sweet.

He hasn't seen many entries, cause nobody has any idea what the event will consist of!

[Denver]

or what the date is for that matter

[DISTRBD]

or what the date is for that matter

This was date i got 3 weeks ago in email


2009 AUSTRALIAN TARMAC CHALLENGE

ROUND 3 - WESTERN AUSTRALIA

OCTOBER 23-25, 2009


Edit .. if you look on ATC site it also has same date :)

[Volatile Rob]

Date is set for 23-25th October

[Denver]

I was told by some int he know its now in early Nov, and given the weekend they currently have listed in october, there is a race meeting all weekend at collie and practice for those in the race meeting friday, they won't be using collie it seems, and im pretty sure AHG/RAC's track is booked for both days of the weekend..

[Brockas]

The Sunday of that weekend is the last round of the Sprint Series, so I didn't think they had AHG booked.

[DISTRBD]

I was told by some int he know its now in early Nov,

Forgot the " NOD "

[doriae86]

if theres some decent venues, and its not just cones in a car park i will enter the corolla.

SRSLY hate cones in car parks. Can never remember where to go!

[Brockas]

SRSLY hate cones in car parks. Can never remember where to go!

Agreed. Would rather focus on the driving rather than "do I go left or right of that cone".

[kato]

Can someone explain how if a Evo/WRX can be eligible for Street Class?


1. STREET CHAMPIONSHIP
Class S1:
All V8 or Forced Induction 6 Cylinder vehicles
Class S2:
All AWD vehicles
Class S3:
All vehicles over 3000cc not otherwise classified
Class S4:
All vehicles under 3000cc not otherwise classified

MODIFICATIONS v PENALTY CHARTS
Brakes (Excluding Pads) 1
Exhaust * 1
Hydraulic Handbrake 1
Induction (Excluding Air Filter) 1
ECU 1
Suspension (Excluding Springs) 1
AWD System 2
Engine Modification 2
Performance Car List 2
Weight Saving 3
R Rated Tyres 4
Rally plate or Unregistered Vehicle Permit 4
Power to Weight > 180Kw per tonne 4
*Exhaust modifications exclude exhaust system from catalytic converter back.

Performance Car List
Mitsubishi EVO
Subaru WRX STi
Ford FPV
Holden HSV
Porsche GT3, GT2

CHAMPIONSHIP ELIGIBILITY
Street Championship – 3 points and under
Club Championship – 10 points and under
Motorsport Championship – over 10 points

So street class is 3 points or under.

Evo: 2 points as a performance car
AWD: 2 points...

Boom already into the next class? May as well run coils, exhaust and r-comps.

Also, no GTR listed in 'perfomance car list'? That would really let you smash the street class open.

[Volatile Rob]

LOL... I'm fitting the interior back in and competing in Club Class :)

[kato]

Yeah, I was hoping to sneak into street, but it looks like club now.

[Brockas]

Just got off the phone with Matt from ATC.

Price is only $990 per driver.

Wanneroo, AHG, Collie, Motorplex, all confirmed.

I'm in.


As for the classes.... I'm fucked.

Brakes - 1
Exhaust - 1
Induction - 1
ECU - 1
Suspension - 1
AWD - 2
Engine mod - 2
Power to weight - 4

Thats 13, and there isn't much I can do about it.

Guess it's time to buy some R-comps as well... :(

[doriae86]

so my car, a corolla with koni stuts and r comps will be penalised ?

hrm k!

[V8ENZ]

I didn't modify the birkin, I just built it with those bits on it.
So no penalty?

[redline07]

I didn't modify the birkin, I just built it with those bits on it.
So no penalty?

Power to Weight > 180Kw per tonne 4

Would this be a penalty that would apply though?

[joshg123]

Damn car taking too long,

PS that list sucks hahaha, i have everything bar performance car list.

Maybe i can deduct some points for my ever manly paint job, or the fact its a womens car

[Wezz]

Exhaust * 1
Induction (Excluding Air Filter) 1
ECU 1
Suspension (Excluding Springs) 1
Engine Modification 2
Weight Saving 3
Rally plate or Unregistered Vehicle Permit 4
Power to Weight > 180Kw per tonne 4

lol, im already up to 17 points....

looks like I wont be in the Club Class

[Lonewolf]

Power to Weight > 180Kw per tonne 4

Would this be a penalty that would apply though?

just sneaks under 170kw/tonne on my maths...

keen to watch some of this year, too poor to compete.

[bjohnson]

I think I can sneak into street class.
I know brake pads are open but I'm not sure about my braided lines.

Still trying to decide if I'm feeling rich enough to enter though.

[DWRacing]

Who cares what class you are in stop being a bunch of little girls and just enter. know one cares who wins at dutton its all about having fun with your mates and why would you want to go in a lower performance class if your car has mods on it. that like lying about your ages so you can go to the movies as a child. neck up soft cocks. And Denver we dont want the fun police there anywayz might be to many skids outside your hotel room when you are trying to sleep

[FranZ]

ROFLMAO @ Denver comment!

[cplagz]

Agreed. Would rather focus on the driving rather than "do I go left or right of that cone".

They need to do what they do for auto-x in the US and have 2 cones, one is tipped over pointing which side of it you need to go past the cone.

Like .... /\< pass on left, >/\ pass on right /\/\ straight.

[Denver]

And Denver we dont want the fun police there anywayz might be to many skids outside your hotel room when you are trying to sleep
the only police ill be calling is the fashion police for that haircut your sporting..

[DWRacing]

the only police ill be calling is the fashion police for that haircut your sporting..

at least i have hair old man. maybe its time you moved on to the retirement village in Armadale where you belong. you will be the first man child they have. Nice and peaceful there just how you like it.

[TJ]

Hahahaha!

Seems like Brodie and I will be joining you guys in the usual manner this year.

[Denver]

at least i have hair old man. maybe its time you moved on to the retirement village in Armadale where you belong. you will be the first man child they have. Nice and peaceful there just how you like it.

no hair loss here, grey yes, receeding no, and just be careful at the next cruise, i might run over you in my wheel chair!

if this thing happens on the nov date thats being thrown around, ill have to trek down for friday nights stayover to watch the innagural sam beck attempt to hook into a model festival of fail

[TJ]

Dude its confirmed for the 23/4/5

And Sam Beck is no longer involved with the event. As for the fail part.. well some of it was sst and some of it was hks kansai.

[DWRacing]

no hair loss here, grey yes, receeding no, and just be careful at the next cruise, i might run over you in my wheel chair!

if this thing happens on the nov date thats being thrown around, ill have to trek down for friday nights stayover to watch the innagural sam beck attempt to hook into a model festival of fail

We dont go on a cruise through Armadale you Wombat. haha. why are you not doing it this yer denver what happened to the renta rex

[Denver]

renta rex is still kicking along, just did the torque trophy at wanners on the weekend actually..

mainly, started a new job, and the date at the end of of oct clashes with it, as ill be away, the confusion about the date and what they have booked put me off, and having not worked 4 months this year, and with ivan racing we can't really justify the 6k the weekend costs this time round, plus im actually trying to get the 33 finished, so the money spent on dutton delays that project again, so ill give it a miss this year, and hopefully next year ill have the rex sorted to the point i want it with decent diffs all round and a good box in it, as im sick of giving away time with the crap diffs it has in it, and the fear im gunna strip a gear any second, and give it a big hit next year

[Volatile Rob]

WA Schedule has been released in case anyone didnt know...

http://www.duttonrally.com/_assets/WAschedule09.pdf

Sunday finishing up at speed dome should be good... thank god they got rid of the Glouster (spelling) park stage this year.

Initial Scrutineering is the Thursday night in Collie which is worrying if your car doesn't pass for any reason... doesn't leave any time to get it sorted out.

Make sure your fire extinguishers have been checked and tagged in the past 9 months too as this will be picked up in scrutineering.

Rob

[Brockas]

Guys,

If you're going to enter, GET YOUR ENTRIES IN NOW.


They are running very low on entries, so if we want this to go ahead we need to get entries together NOW.

[Denver]

Andddd its been postphoned till 2010..

[GTRgav]

Are these guys talking to each other??

Was rung up yesterday arvo by Matt Issac asking where my entry was (and of course where my deposit was).

Duely paid my deposit this morning and then next minute (literally!) get the email telling me it's cancelled from Anthony Moss.

[TJ]

Fail.

[Volatile Rob]

EPIC FAIL

Just got off the phone from Matt and sure enough, Dutton is being post poned until Feb 2010 due to lack of entries this year.

He is going to join antilag today and make a formal statement.

Rob

[TJ]

EPIC FAIL

Just got off the phone from Matt and sure enough, Dutton is being post poned until Feb 2010 due to lack of entries this year.

He is going to join antilag today and make a formal statement.

Rob


WESTERN AUSTRALIAN ROUND POSTPONED



Due to a date clash in the local motorsport scene in Perth, the Western Australian Round of the Australian Tarmac Championship has been postponed until 2010. The Round will be replaced in the 2009 National Series by the "One Day" event to be held at Lang Lang on November 21.

Whilst extremely disappointed in having to make this decision, we feel it is the right one to make for all competitors given the circumstances of the clash. We would also like to assure our supporters and competitors in WA that the Round will be back in force in 2010.

Entry fees received for the WA Round will be refunded in full or, if preferred, the deposit can be rolled over to next year's event.

We would like to thank our WA competitors for their advice and direction on this matter. We assure you that the decision to postpone was not made lightly and we look forward to a sensational WA event in 2010.

Kind Regards,

Anthony Moss

Series Director

amoss@australiantarmacchallenge.com

Formal enough isnt it?

[Volatile Rob]

Formal enough isnt it?

That works, but i never received the email... I only read it on here and then called him.

Still pissed off though :mad:

[Denver]

a clash in the local motorsport calender, well two clashes infact, they knew about long ago...

[Brockas]

February will probably make for a better event, as everything seemed rather 'rushed' for October.

Was looking forward to it though :(

[DISTRBD]

a clash in the local motorsport calender, well two clashes infact, they knew about long ago...

Your new nic should be " Iluv2moan2 "

[Denver]

Your new nic should be " Iluv2moan2 "

fuck off Kunt!

[Volatile Rob]

Whats the bet this gets re-booked for the weekend Top Gear Live is on?

[Denver]

Seems they figured the event was gunna tank..

http://www.duttonrally.com/lang_lang_2009.php

[Kilma]

Is 8 events in a day the norm, or was the Fabcar thing last year just really good with 15 or so (I can't remember)?

Or are these ones held on more open roads instead of mini tracks and carparks?

Not that I am entering in any way, shape or form. I'm just curious.

[FranZ]

Generally it would be Damon - bear in mind thats generally 16 stages for the car given that the driver and co-driver both drive.

[Brockas]

Plus, the events are at Barbagello (incl. hill climb), Collie, Kwinana, AHG, and Speed Dome.

They usually take a bit longer than the carpark stuff.

[Kilma]

Generally it would be Damon - bear in mind thats generally 16 stages for the car given that the driver and co-driver both drive.
Ah. That's pretty cool then.

Paul, I'm talkin about their 1 day thing at Lang Lang (speaking of which, for those of us that are ignorant, what/where is Lang Lang), not the Dutton.

[TJ]

lang lang is holdens testing grounds over east. massive complex.

[FranZ]

Lang Lang: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=lang+lang,+victoria&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=60.116586,134.912109&ie=UTF8&ll=-38.350474,145.578761&spn=0.02955,0.082226&t=k&z=15&iwloc=A

[FranZ]

Event never happened blah blah blah. New thread for next year.