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T4L35
14-02-2009, 10:14 AM
Hey everyone!
Heres my drifter, there is not much to her but I do have plans on the way - pending funds bahaa!
SPECS:
July 2004
BA Falcon XR6T Sedan
Phantom Purple
4.0L I6
Manual T5 w/ exedy heavy duty brass button clutch
F6 Typhoon intercooler
Pod filter plumbed to front of turbo ( heaps of flutter )
Factory LSD, extremely tight
Premium audio 7 speaker w/ sub, larger in dash lcd screen.
Premium interior
wadrift stickers (+12 ish rwkw)
Pursuit rims
Not much else as its pretty stock but should make good power, bought it at 84XXX kms and she has just done 89XXX kms.
Have only taken it out to one drift prac night in nov 2008 and went quite well although needs more power as it is very heavy and suspension needs a set of coilovers. But handles great, kind of just point it where you want it to go and let the right foot do the work
Mods to come -
Secret shhhhh ^^. cough*T51R*cough.
Just waiting on more funds to finish paying my rims off - 18in BBS for track.....street/show SSR Professor MS1.
I have alot of plans for it that I have on the way, and most of the mods are JDM inspired so it will definetly be a unique drifter.
Will post pics as mods go on, looking to have it all done by autosalon in July this year.....well thats the plan!
Oh and an 8-6 would be nice along the line somewhere hahaa.
Look forward to having it out alot this drift season.
Modified the intake setup a little, flows good hahaa and plenty of induction noise :P
http://i42.tinypic.com/54ywj4.jpg
OLD SETUP
http://i44.tinypic.com/2ex32ok.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/2dsfgwk.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/fne4o1.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/2u5f1ip.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/312ifm0.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/14nmvxu.jpg
The lighting really blows in these pics but the paint really sparkles in the sunlight ^^.
Should have the BBS rims on by next weekend yay!
Anyways let me know what you think.
Mike.
scj91
14-02-2009, 10:21 AM
less drift practices more skids.
SLEEKA
14-02-2009, 10:46 AM
looks good, but that pod filter looks totally out of place haha - no offence
interesting choice for a drifter, they are a heavy old girl, but kudos for being different
also dont worry about upgrading the turbo, get a tune with some decent boost through the gt35r and that'll net enough power
lachlanrb20s13
14-02-2009, 11:36 AM
ssr ms1's would suit the xr6 pretty well i can imagine. this thing will mean with rims and a t51r!
blownVL
14-02-2009, 11:45 AM
looks tough with the pursuits
hey man as said before on driftwa awesome and im looking forward to watching it at feb practice :)
evil1
14-02-2009, 01:31 PM
dose it!
T4L35
14-02-2009, 04:56 PM
Thanks everyone for the comments :P yes to skids ^^. But need the practice as Im wanting to eventualy compete at national events!
Yeah she does carry a bit of baggage but I will be doing my best to minimise the weight although in its current state, being full weight it still handles well. Last drift prac went well, holds angle quite well but def needs more power and clutch will need to be changed out although there is no slippage just yet.
As for the filter - Yes looks very out of place, but should have the battery relocated under the front bar in the next two weeks ( lacking funds ) then I can run a proper pipe. Hahaa and thanks, I wanted to use something different but also love the factory styling! Will be fitting a topstage bonnet vent ( Nismo R34 Z Tune lookalike)
Hahaa yes already told the 35 would be ample but the hks unit is awsome, def another step towards being different :)
No to long to go though, wanting to have it all ready by autosalon.
ED40 - You best have your boat out aswel hahaaa!
Man I wish I knew how this multiple quote stuff works!
Docile
14-02-2009, 04:58 PM
also dont worry about upgrading the turbo, get a tune with some decent boost through the gt35r and that'll net enough power
Especially since the 5 speed box will die with any more..
T4L35
14-02-2009, 05:32 PM
Yes then time for a T56 :P
evil1
14-02-2009, 07:15 PM
should chuck 34gtr rims on
T4L35
14-02-2009, 07:22 PM
Yeah actually a mate offered me a set but a bit to pricey, even more at shops. They'd look hot but prefer mesh style rims, actually wouldnt mind speed star mesh -
http://www.c-red.com.au/images/content/news/cache/SSR_FormulaMesh400-240x180.jpg
Yummy, pity they only go to 17in but I think 17s would still look nice on the XR. Just stretch some smaller rubber onto it :P
Splat_man
15-02-2009, 12:56 AM
What suspension are you going to put on? I would consider that the most important part of a drift car.
T4L35
15-02-2009, 10:26 AM
A set of coilovers....still doing my homework on what would be best suited but that will be the next thing after paying off my bbs rims.
Ask Tocchi, he has Tein's in his FG, fully adjustable in cabin.. awesome.
T4L35
15-02-2009, 02:34 PM
Yeah id ask but to afraid of the price tag lol
Drift_R32
15-02-2009, 08:01 PM
id like to see how that T5 box handles any decent power aye and abbuse on the track. T5s are pretty weak. better off looking for a 6 speed
Smoked
15-02-2009, 08:11 PM
my mates xr6t ute with 5 speed had basic mods like exhaust, boost, intake and tune and crapped on the 5 speed box with normal everyday driving, not even thrashing.
expect to pay for the t56 too as theyre not that easy to come by and it WILL happen, no doubt.
T4L35
15-02-2009, 08:15 PM
Yeah havent heard much good about them, but have had no probs so far with mine, mind you besides drift prac it doesnt cop much. Apparently they are still reliable if your not smashing through gears or clutching it instead select the gear normally and nail the accelerator.
Anywho looks like she will be going now as I want an XT and building it up ^^.
Drift_R32
15-02-2009, 08:18 PM
yeh mite be able to get away with just mashing the clutch to get it out..also heavy car use the weight to throw the thing around. dunno wat the stock gearing is like but probably bearly get out of 2nd if its tall anyways no need to smash 3rd
T4L35
15-02-2009, 08:34 PM
Yeah gearing is quite tall, at prac was never out of 3rd but yeah she is heavy so used that to its advantage to initiate the slide. Holds great and is very stable at full lock, really only used the handbrake once only when i didnt carry enough speed into the corner :/
btw love the signature - awd queer to rwd legend lol
VT SS
15-02-2009, 08:43 PM
any benefits with the china pod sucking in hot air ?
what do you plan on doing with a XT ? drift i pressume?
yeh mite be able to get away with just mashing the clutch to get it out..also heavy car use the weight to throw the thing around. dunno wat the stock gearing is like but probably bearly get out of 2nd if its tall anyways no need to smash 3rd
I have a t5 with 3.45's and pretty much use third gear the whole track when i had a go at drifting. Only the hairpin up the top was where i had to go back to second but then its quickly into 3rd again on the exit.
My t5 has copped a floggin for 12 months now with around 300rwhp, had a couple of little problems with the clutch bolts pulling the threads out of the flywheel but other then that its going well so far *touch wood*
BA's are like 2-300kgs heavier then my car so there would be more strain on your box.. Like you said just don't load the box up to much in 3rd and you should be ok unless you have more then 350rwhp :P Then it's definately time for a t56
T4L35
15-02-2009, 08:53 PM
any benefits with the china pod sucking in hot air ?
what do you plan on doing with a XT ? drift i pressume?
Does fark all, made a minor difference to the factory setup. Makes just as much difference as any other car running a unenclosed pod filter.
But yes will be build for drift, going for a base model as it will work out cheaper for me.
S133LTR
15-02-2009, 08:55 PM
your selling this to get a base model to re-build for drifting?
Tocchi
15-02-2009, 09:02 PM
it will cost more to turbo car and setup for drifts, than to drift setup the XR6T
spend $4k on suspension for XR6T and you will go good!
hows the handbrake hold up? Because the standard handbrake hardly holds the car on a flat peice of road, cant imagine what it would be like ripping it up at 100k's
Tocchi
15-02-2009, 09:06 PM
hows the handbrake hold up? Because the standard handbrake hardly holds the car on a flat peice of road, cant imagine what it would be like ripping it up at 100k's
unsure about BA/BFs ... but the FGs dont do it at high speed... like 20kmh and under it works.. strange cos its a cable setup.
T4L35
15-02-2009, 09:22 PM
Yeah works great at speed , but needs to be tightened.
As for the setup, it would be cheaper for me to get a xr6t halfcut package and a "rough" XT, an ex-taxi for example and go from there.
Considering I can pickup an XT ex taxi for 4k plus 5k for halfcut. And all other bits and pieces it would still be a considerable amount less than 20k :P
Id save myself quite a bit on installation etc as I would do it myself.
JazRad
15-02-2009, 09:26 PM
$4k for a working XT ? Are you serious ? Where from ? Maybe ill buy an XT for a daily.
XT stripped out hardcore to get back to around 1400kg would be the way to go.
Teins with full EFDC shouldnt be more then 2k odd.
Stock turbo would be perfect, response and it will make 450hp... why would you change.
Tocchi
15-02-2009, 09:38 PM
XT stripped out hardcore to get back to around 1400kg would be the way to go.
Teins with full EFDC shouldnt be more then 2k odd.
Stock turbo would be perfect, response and it will make 450hp... why would you change.
Xspeed charge $2500 for Teins (without EDFC or fitting).
you could get a damaged XR6T (running) at pickles, use that at the track. just fix the damage. that way you can go as hard as you want without having to worry about fixing damage too much if you come off
Whatever model you went for, it needs a diet.
Spent a few good hours in a modded xr6 today.. they are a heavy car without doubt
T4L35
16-02-2009, 07:26 AM
Yeah seen some on carsales a few time in the 4k range, not sure how well it would be working lol I certainly wouldnt care for that amount, hell im sure i could find one with no motor n box to be even cheaper :P But yeah pickels always has these suckers going cheap when they come in damaged
Definetley needs a diet to be competative, even at full weight she still isnt to bad, but as id imagine a set of coilovers put into it as it is would certainly make it interesting to see how much better it would go.
All that being said it is nice to be able to hit the track without having to worry about trading panel n paint with a wall or two lol not that I plan on it but you never know right?
xr06t
16-02-2009, 07:55 AM
i got redline shockproof in my lsd and it is tight as buggary. might wanna try that, the 85w140 is the stuff to use.
good luck mate, get some vids up!
i would also try and move away from that intake, goran had one on his ute, and he said it was nowhere near as good as an under-battery setup.
my t56 conversion with an ap twin plate is likely to be up for sale soon mate, pm me if you are interested.
Turbo2.6L
16-02-2009, 08:22 AM
If you paid $20k for that you paid about $8k too much. Sorry to say it but they're just not worth anything now because it is so widely known that the T5 is the worst option box to go with...
If i were you i'd stick with the car you have. You'll struggle to get $20k back (especially now that countless people know it's been abused at drift practice) & even if you do, you'll still be down on 2 x transfer fees rather than 1 so add that to the total cost of an XT + box + motor + ***.
I have a T56 conversion minus clutch that i'll be getting rid of shortly so there's a start. Also, stick with the stock 35 as it can punch decent numbers with a bigger actuator/wastegate flapper. Mine is currently on 18psi & making 409rwkw or 550rwhp which is plenty to get the rears smoking through the first three gears in a 6 speed auto & rolling on 20's. If you want mods & the best advice to extract power without emptying the bank balance, call Rob (in my sig) as he is by far the best around when it comes to the Barra motors.
Hope this helps...
I woudln't worry about the LSD, you will need a spool or kaaz diff for any decent 2-wheel reliability..
T4L35
16-02-2009, 06:08 PM
Okay change of circumstances, will be keeping her now. Looking to go all out so keep the comments comming !!!
Hmmm how much would you be chasing for the T56? Sounds like a good way to go, how about clutches...were you using a factory one or aftermarket one? Not to sure how they would go with a twin plate in it. But thanks will def give Rob a call.
Is it true that the na and t models both use the same T5 box?
Diff wise I would obviously go for a mech 2-way ^^. Not going to cheap it out.
xr06t
17-02-2009, 07:34 AM
not the same box between na and turbo. the turbo has the t5z, but it is at its limit with 500nm. na has the lower specced t5.
give the redline oil a go, my lsd has been very reliable, and i think it would last you a while.
the ap twin plate is a very good clutch, up there with the best for the t56 imo. was standard in the typhoon, and used in drif6. probably be lookin at 5.5k with all the bits required for the conversion, with a short throw shifter and alloy csc.
Turbo2.6L
17-02-2009, 09:30 AM
Spot on for the cost of conversion. I want $4k for box & all bits needed to fit it minus clutch or $5200 including AP Racing twin plate as used in Drif6...
I had a KAAZ 2-way in my BA XR6T & it was very predictable/tight. The only downside was that it was a street car & it was very noisey, but that wont be a problem in your case. Give Richard at WA Diff Centre a call as he was the best price fitted at the time i had mine done :)
Drift_R32
17-02-2009, 01:32 PM
u smash a decent clutch in that..something grabby and brutal and you can say good bye to that box. i think the problem is its not a car to start drifting in. its heavy, not to mention huge and underpowered for the weight it carries.. id def be careful up through the S bends..walls arent far off the road.
redline07
17-02-2009, 01:58 PM
Always good to see someone doing something different but realistically a 7k silvia or R32 would probably work out a lot better, not to mention cheaper than trying to do an XR6 and make it competetive.
PSI 304
17-02-2009, 02:41 PM
congrats on trying to be different but i tend to agree with redline07, to go competitive i'd find a mildly modded bunky silvia and do it that way. Cheaper without doubt
Drift_R32
18-02-2009, 04:11 PM
also i think people tend to not realise drifters..specially competitive ones pretty much dont give a FUK about their cars. hence the brutal punishment they get delt. if your hoping to keep it as a nice daily, its gonna be pretty damn hard. going out for a practice session and shit fair enough..but trying to compete is another story
T4L35
24-02-2009, 08:42 PM
Huge and underpowered compared to what? Have you driven an xr6t?
Try looking into D1GP and have a look at the number of jzx chasers and mark II's, with a weigh in at ~1480 at 206kw 377nm compared to ~1664 at 240kw 450 nm at even less rpm than the jzx. Just because it is a big car doesnt mean it isnt a good car to start drifting in, a good drifter can overcome these issues with skill and technique.
Definetley NOT underpowered for its wieght.
This is the first time in an xr6t and a while since I have been on the track, but defienetley not first time. Being different comes at its costs and im sure there are plenty of people in Formula D that will tell you this i.e competitors in lincolns and caprices :P
Tocchi
24-02-2009, 08:53 PM
just dont be like this XR6T at drift practice. was about 10kg on sand in teh engine bay
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-YToeI1W_Q
Drift_R32
24-02-2009, 08:58 PM
..most chaser, mark2s drift cars arent exactly stock-yet to see a stock one been drifted competitively(could be wrong).. also small mods(front mount, exhuast and boost) to either a 1jz or 2jz will yeild 300rwhp plus. my soarer which was still rather wieghty with just rather stock front mount, dump back exhuast and pods on stock boost had decent poke. been a large car will prob help with throwing it around for sure. 1664kg is up there though.
definately skill has a massive part in this..im just saying my opinion. its awesome to be different but good as a starter car? i dunno about that.
aswell ive had a near 400rwhp Vu ss ute and i mean that had just springs so cant say it "handled" but compared to sliding that and sliding the 32 with coils it was like trying to drift an ocean liner.
Smoked
25-02-2009, 07:22 PM
have you been on a weighbridge?
i dont really beleive the 1664 kg spec. especially considering someone on here has a BA pursuit UTE thats in the 1900's somewhere.
i know thats a v8 but its a UTE where does the weight come from? surely not just the engine alone? the 4.0 straight six isnt exactly a lightweight and BA's weigh more than 1664!! surely.
Miggy
25-02-2009, 08:33 PM
have you been on a weighbridge?
i dont really beleive the 1664 kg spec. especially considering someone on here has a BA pursuit UTE thats in the 1900's somewhere.
i know thats a v8 but its a UTE where does the weight come from? surely not just the engine alone? the 4.0 straight six isnt exactly a lightweight and BA's weigh more than 1664!! surely.
1664 sounds about right give or take a few kg's
The utes generally weigh about 80kg or so more then the sedans.
Ill try and find a wheels mag with the specs.
EDIT: A BA XR6 sedan non turbo has a curb weight of 1688 according to WHEELS magazine.
SLEEKA
25-02-2009, 08:37 PM
..most chaser, mark2s drift cars arent exactly stock-yet to see a stock one been drifted competitively(could be wrong).. also small mods(front mount, exhuast and boost) to either a 1jz or 2jz will yeild 300rwhp plus.
although the same simple mods to the xr6t will get 450rwhp+
power really wont be the issue here, just the handling around the track. With a decent suspension setup it should be a go-er
Torquen
02-03-2009, 03:46 PM
maybe i should take myn to a drift day :P lol.
Good luck with it all mate, keap us posted on how it goes. good to see someone being different in the drift scene. im sure the XR6T will do ya proud.
Turbo2.6L
02-03-2009, 03:58 PM
It's being sold...
T4L35
02-03-2009, 04:00 PM
Yep :/ cant afford to keep it right now.....but i wont go into that
Torquen
02-03-2009, 04:37 PM
ahh thats a shame, a drift XR6T would make a very interesting project... if only i had the cash for a 2nd T.
Drift_R32
02-03-2009, 04:48 PM
although the same simple mods to the xr6t will get 450rwhp+
power really wont be the issue here, just the handling around the track. With a decent suspension setup it should be a go-er
cooler, exhuast, pump and a 1 bar untuned making $450rwhp ? doubt it..to get 450rwhp outta an XR6t i think youd be looking at afew more mods and $
Well you will probably need injectors aswell but yeah 1bar, fmic and exhaust would piss in 450rwhp.
Big motor + decent size turbo will give you that man.
FYI, FG F6 tune only will make 300rwkw.
Torquen
02-03-2009, 06:49 PM
cooler, exhuast, pump and a 1 bar untuned making $450rwhp ? doubt it..to get 450rwhp outta an XR6t i think youd be looking at afew more mods and $
I/C, Injectors, Cat & Dump, Larger 'hot' & 'cold' side piping, new induction, new clutch, 16psi, new actuator... $6000-$8000 later (minus tuning)... you get the picture. not exactley 1 or 2g worth of mods.
Drift_R32
02-03-2009, 07:21 PM
I/C, Injectors, Cat & Dump, Larger 'hot' & 'cold' side piping, new induction, new clutch, 16psi, new actuator... $6000-$8000 later (minus tuning)... you get the picture. not exactley 1 or 2g worth of mods.
exctly..
china cooler -$400
Full exhuast-$500
Bosche 040-$250
Pods-$$100
turbotech boost controler $30
TOTAL:$1280 all bolted to a 2JZ or 1JZ looking at 300+rwhp untuned. and i can tell your now..id trust a boosted untuned 1JZ/2JZ over an untuned 4litreturbo anyday. as i recall Thommos was pinging on only 10psi with flash tuner
tuned with a SAFC2 or something cheap looking at around 2k for 350+rwhp
T4L35
02-03-2009, 07:35 PM
I was under the impression that yes with fmic, intake, full zorst, injectors, pump, flash and boost could easily yeild 450rwhp? Ive heard of these results from minor mods aswel though. I have had alot of people say that they do run quite hot although I havent seen this in mine, even at drift prac she never went on half :p just over quarter so id say they are just as safe as a 1-2JZ, but would prob feel more comfortable doing these mods of the jz's as I have never heard of problems arrising from them although on the other hand have heard of the barra detonating from a flash tune :S
Torquen
02-03-2009, 07:57 PM
no worries with detonation from the 4litreT. the mods u listed plus a new clutch (min 1.5k), actuator and larger crossover pipes (or alterant piping) you will be looking at $6000 MIN (thats using products from the lower end of the range). then tuning costs ontop ($500 min). but yes with these mods you be hitting round 450rwhp. Thats plenty enough power to do some serious drifting, trust me. You would go for an agresive tune with boost running in hard and early in the RPM range to keap your wheels smoking. your CV's/diff and Clutch arnt going to be on good terms with you though. haha.
With a half decent cooler heat wont be an issue. run up to 1/2 temp on/after a belting at most.
T4L35
02-03-2009, 08:55 PM
Hahaa yeah sounds about right....spoke to the guy at xtreme ford tuning and the guy at the desk reckons their F6 has gone through numerous rear ends lol but im also doubting that the T5 will hold with that much torque! 960nm...fark yeah when is it hitting that? has it had much dyno time?
Torquen
03-03-2009, 06:05 AM
took 41 runs on the dyno to get the tune 'spot on'. very happy with it. Yeh youd be lucky to hold the power with a standard T5 but with some mods itl do the job. my power graph below. Torque is avaible from 3400rpm :naughty:
http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh406/jshakersgmailcom/PowerGraphLarge.jpg
Turbo2.6L
03-03-2009, 10:20 AM
no worries with detonation from the 4litreT. the mods u listed plus a new clutch (min 1.5k), actuator and larger crossover pipes (or alterant piping) you will be looking at $6000 MIN (thats using products from the lower end of the range). then tuning costs ontop ($500 min). but yes with these mods you be hitting round 450rwhp. Thats plenty enough power to do some serious drifting, trust me. You would go for an agresive tune with boost running in hard and early in the RPM range to keap your wheels smoking. your CV's/diff and Clutch arnt going to be on good terms with you though. haha.
With a half decent cooler heat wont be an issue. run up to 1/2 temp on/after a belting at most.
450rwhp = 335rwkw approx.
Siemens Injectors - $500 fitted
Walbro intank pump - $200 fitted
4" cat - $400 fitted
Rapid V2 Cooler kit - $1200 fitted
Flash 1 & tune - $1200 (Monsta Torque only)
Total - $3500
That would have you a fairly repeatable 450rwhp on a budget. If you had a manual, budget for a new clutch on top of that & maybe a tranny cooler for the auto's if they're not FPV's. Phoon's/Nado's come with bombed clutches from factory & the auto's cop factory tranny coolers. Both get engine oil coolers as standard...
Torquen, your torque doesn't seem to hold for long at all when compared to my graph & your power drops off extremely early (sub 5k revs)?? Was it tuned like this on purpose by BPT or is there a restriction somewhere in your system?
Mine holds 550+rwhp from about 4500rpm through to about 5400rpm before slightly dropping off (due to dropping boost to preserve stock bottom end) & torque holds at 1100+nm from similar to your starting point right through to 5k+
Tocchi
03-03-2009, 10:38 AM
good old BPT. thats all ill say hahaha
dean where's that sticker of yours, i need to modify it for my opinion of BPT
fuck you carnts dont know how to make power easy of of these cars.
step 1 - buy 2nd hand $50 boost tee off car forum
step 2 - cut turbo to wastegate vacuum hose
step 3 - put boost tee in
step 4 - wind nice and high
step 5 - pick the conrod off the road
Turbo2.6L
03-03-2009, 10:53 AM
You wont spit a rod that way because the ecu goes into limp mode once it detects a boost spike. The tables & torque tags have to be adjusted to suit... It aint an EF :p
adrenalin
03-03-2009, 11:05 AM
lol.
The torque in the XR6-t is amazing :D
locote
03-03-2009, 11:12 AM
good old BPT. thats all ill say hahaha
dean where's that sticker of yours, i need to modify it for my opinion of BPT
fuck you carnts dont know how to make power easy of of these cars.
step 1 - buy 2nd hand $50 boost tee off car forum
step 2 - cut turbo to wastegate vacuum hose
step 3 - put boost tee in
step 4 - wind nice and high
step 5 - pick the conrod off the road
LOL is that a ford thing???
Torquen
03-03-2009, 04:40 PM
Torquen, your torque doesn't seem to hold for long at all when compared to my graph & your power drops off extremely early (sub 5k revs)?? Was it tuned like this on purpose by BPT or is there a restriction somewhere in your system?
Mine holds 550+rwhp from about 4500rpm through to about 5400rpm before slightly dropping off (due to dropping boost to preserve stock bottom end) & torque holds at 1100+nm from similar to your starting point right through to 5k+
Power only realy drops of at 5000rpm. Torque is dropping of a little early but it still stays on the happy side of 700Nm. Some people who are running 450rwhp are only making 750Nm at max torque.
Remember you are running 18psi whereas im only running 16psi, iv still got a stock rear section of my exhaust (highly restrictive), and it is tuned on the conservative side as i didnt want to push the BA bottem end to much.
Post up your graph will ya, intrested to see the difference.
Tocchi, why dont you like BPT??
XF Falcon
03-03-2009, 05:21 PM
Yeah mine only makes a max of about 700Nm of torque, mind you we both agreed it should only get a conservative tune as I have the weaker bottom end and I'm only running about 14 psi too. One day when I get the dump/exhaust changed then I'll see if it can make a bit more.
Turbo2.6L
04-03-2009, 10:38 AM
Power only realy drops of at 5000rpm. Torque is dropping of a little early but it still stays on the happy side of 700Nm. Some people who are running 450rwhp are only making 750Nm at max torque.
Remember you are running 18psi whereas im only running 16psi, iv still got a stock rear section of my exhaust (highly restrictive), and it is tuned on the conservative side as i didnt want to push the BA bottem end to much.
Post up your graph will ya, intrested to see the difference.
Tocchi, why dont you like BPT??
I lost my graph some time over MV weekend. Had it displayed in my window but couldn't find it after i got home... Probably flew out the window! Haha
Come to the Motorplex in the next few weeks & the et/mph should be indicative of power/torque :D
Torquen
04-03-2009, 01:38 PM
Come to the Motorplex in the next few weeks & the et/mph should be indicative of power/torque :D
114MPH ET on my 12.9 run, got a 120MPH ET on a slower run though. not lacking power. Work permiting id love to get back down for another shot, posistive its got a 12.6 in it maybe a 12.5 with street tyres.
Turbo2.6L
04-03-2009, 02:14 PM
Did you back that 120mph up with a second run? That's big mph for a manual, especially with such limited power (no offence). Phil Watson's T56 equipped F6 ran 11.5 @ 122mph & is currently the quickest manual in the country. That was with built motor & 420+rwkw...
Torquen
04-03-2009, 04:32 PM
did 8 runs in total, MPH ranged from 112MPH to 120MPH. Most being around 117/118MPH. Lol, no offence taken! Wish i had the cash for a built motor and some more HP but no such luck atm. I think someones run a quicker 1/4mile than phil now to, 11.3 if im not mistaken. Phil's got the orange F6 ute ai? nice car.
Turbo2.6L
05-03-2009, 08:24 AM
did 8 runs in total, MPH ranged from 112MPH to 120MPH. Most being around 117/118MPH. Lol, no offence taken! Wish i had the cash for a built motor and some more HP but no such luck atm. I think someones run a quicker 1/4mile than phil now to, 11.3 if im not mistaken. Phil's got the orange F6 ute ai? nice car.
Na he has the octane (orange) F6 sedan... He bettered that 11.3 with an 11.2 so still holds the record. Unsure of mph so i just used the 11.5 as an example :)
120mph is very good for your power/mods in a manual due to the fly-by-wire closing throttle on gear changes etc. Auto's with your power usually run 118 - 120mph, hence my surprise when you wrote it!
Torquen
05-03-2009, 01:01 PM
Ill see if i kept any of the other time sheets and il post em up if i can find them. Failing that i might have found an excuse to take her down the plex again :)
Turbo2.6L
05-03-2009, 01:03 PM
That's a better idea, take it down again for um... scientific reasons! Haha
Torquen
05-03-2009, 08:12 PM
That's a better idea, take it down again for um... scientific reasons! Haha
Yes.... scientific reasons.
Hypothesis: How much RPM on launches does it take to blow a CV?? :D
SLEEKA
05-03-2009, 08:54 PM
cooler, exhuast, pump and a 1 bar untuned making $450rwhp ? doubt it..to get 450rwhp outta an XR6t i think youd be looking at afew more mods and $
seen a few first hand pumping out more than 450 with no more mods than listed above (EDIT: forgot to mention the tune, being a re-mappable computer its pretty easy). Obviously they arent shitty ceramic wheel turbos, you can boost them more than the 1bar limit compared to the average skyline etc gets.
The gt35r will love 20psi of boost with plenty more in it, and with 20psi and a good tune you'll shit in 450, the only thing holding it back is the reliablity of the stock engine past that point
Turbo2.6L
06-03-2009, 09:20 AM
My 35/40 is on 18psi & running out of puff mate. Don't forget, these are a 4L motor, not a 2.5...
Drift_R32
06-03-2009, 04:00 PM
seen a few first hand pumping out more than 450 with no more mods than listed above (EDIT: forgot to mention the tune, being a re-mappable computer its pretty easy). Obviously they arent shitty ceramic wheel turbos, you can boost them more than the 1bar limit compared to the average skyline etc gets.
The gt35r will love 20psi of boost with plenty more in it, and with 20psi and a good tune you'll shit in 450, the only thing holding it back is the reliablity of the stock engine past that point
im yet to see anyone putting out that power in a XR6t for under 5k. even with the work done themselves. unless you actually stole the parts you needed and did the work yourself then you mite be able to get away with it.
im just saying...wieghing up how much it would take to get a Mark2 or tourer to decent power including decent susp...to be competitive in drifting it would be a better option. i dont care whether its different or not thats not the argument. im looking at it completely from a competitive point of view.
AGIT8D
06-03-2009, 05:42 PM
You're probably right in your thoughts then. An s13 will be competitive with minimal spent because they're fairly light, can be stripped and don't need to make huge power to slide...
But the basis of appeal for this drift car was a) to be different and b) to use a motor that responds very well to minimal mods to power the barge..
Far as I can see you're both right, cause you're both arguing about different shit :) That DRIF6 or whatever proved how good they can be : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oOLQ5fyzLI&feature=related
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