Drug Amnesty Bins Proposal

[luke20t]

Heard this on the radio while at work:
http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/youth-body-backs-amnesty-bin-proposal-20090205-7yrs.html

[Alt_F4]

Yeah that bins not gonna get stolen...
FREE DRUGS PPL! :lol:

[RICEY]

Wont make any difference, chick that died could have thrown the drugs on the floor instead of swallowing them, so she wouldnt have used the bins.

[cplagz]

To put it simply, she's a fucking retard. I have no sympathy for her, it was her choice to take the drugs, it was her choice to carry them into the event (or attempt to anyway).

She failed and as a consequence, she died.

[mc68]

Wont make any difference, chick that died could have thrown the drugs on the floor instead of swallowing them, so she wouldnt have used the bins.

how the fuck would you actually know she wouldnt have used these bins?

[Ryan1080]

Perhaps people would be more inclined to place them in the bin if there's a big sign saying that all drugs will be returned at the end of the event. In that case the chick woudl not have swallowed them all at once.

[redline07]

Haha
"Which drugs are yours little girl?"
"Ahh..ummm those pills, no wait, ahh, that kilo of coke, yeah that was mine"

[Drift_R32]

throwing them in a bin-throwing them on the ground....same same, your never gonna see them again, if someone wasnt willing to throw them on the ground, then why would have she put them in a bin..

[AndrZeJ]

bin runs? anyone?

[TJ]

"i think mr mendela smoked my drugs man"

[mr_mike]

i had to laugh when i heard this on the radio, i have just paid XXX $ for a handful of drugs of course i am gonna chuck them in the "amnesty" bin to avoid gettin caught.

Same as said above if u didnt wanna get caught just turf the pills on the ground and off you go.

[Tones]

throwing them in a bin-throwing them on the ground....same same, your never gonna see them again, if someone wasnt willing to throw them on the ground, then why would have she put them in a bin..

couldnt agree more:werd:

[AGIT8D]

Might have to hang out at the traino more often pre-events if all these people are throwing drugs on the ground!

[duste]

For once I actually agreed with what a copper said - they did what they were supposed to be doing and it's not their fault they she was stupid enough (obviously he didn't actually call her stupid) to swallow the pills.

[Smoked]

she obviously wanted to ping, and she didnt realise that by having just 2 more she could die.. i want to know what ones they were.

[RICEY]

how the fuck would you actually know she wouldnt have used these bins?


Because I thought before I posted unlike you.

She had the choice of throwing the drugs away, there didnt have to be a bin there to do that, she instead chose to take them. Therefore a bin would have made no difference would it?

[Klutch]

i want to know what ones they were.
Didn't read the actual link, did you?



Police have been carrying out drug raids on properties but have yet to source the dealers of ''green heart'' ecstasy pills that Ms Thoms allegedly took before collapsing.

[[FFOUR]]

To put it simply, she's a fucking retard. I have no sympathy for her, it was her choice to take the drugs, it was her choice to carry them into the event (or attempt to anyway).

She failed and as a consequence, she died.

+ 10192302032983

I like your thinking on alot of things, we should sex.

[[FFOUR]]

Also, i would like to suggest a driving amnesty zone.

The 500m directly before any police/camera etc is located is an amnesty zone and in that area we are allowed to dispose of our speed (i.e. slow down) to avoid being fined/arrested.

[RICEY]

lol top idea

[RICEY]

I was speeding and there was cops ahead so I ate my car, I dont feel so good....

[AGIT8D]

LOL @ last few posts.

[Steppo_GT]

To put it simply, she's a fucking retard. I have no sympathy for her, it was her choice to take the drugs, it was her choice to carry them into the event (or attempt to anyway).

She failed and as a consequence, she died.

+ 9827345765342642386

Fail for her mum to be defending her on TV as well, as if she knew what the fuck her daughter had been getting up to

[RICEY]

+ 9827345765342642386

Fail for her mum to be defending her on TV as well, as if she knew what the fuck her daughter had been getting up to


You expect her mum to not defend her own daughter whos just died?

[AGIT8D]

Fark knows why a 17y.o. chick backed herself to think 3 pills was a good amount for the day, and why the fuck did they drop before they even left home? Bit chatty to mum in the car issit?

Uneducated, unlucky.

[Steppo_GT]

You expect her mum to not defend her own daughter whos just died?


Well I know for a fact that I wouldn't be doing interveiws and shit if the same thing happened to me. I dont see the point of making such a huge deal about it and making a fool of yourself on tv.

Some may agree some may not, thats my view on it.

[RICEY]

Dude you just lost a daughter, you would do everyhting in your power (including going on TV) to make her memory a good one, not that she was some druggie that ODd because she was stupid. And of course its a huge deal to the mother.

Maybe you need to be a parent to understand...

[Smoked]

guess i should have read the article

[titmeat]

im not a parent (that i know of)
but fuck give her a break
she did a silly thing but who didnt when they were 17

[mc68]

Because I thought before I posted unlike you.

She had the choice of throwing the drugs away, there didnt have to be a bin there to do that, she instead chose to take them. Therefore a bin would have made no difference would it?

Riiight

I love how people assume so fast, about a girl, at whom no one here knows, and no one knows the real reason why she necked 3 dingers supposedly at the train station. Who are you to cast the judgement to say she wouldnt have thrown the pills away. How do you -actually- know what she was thinking?

maybe if there was an obvious 'get out of jail free' card infront of her face, she may have taken it. Who is to say if she dropped the pills in the presence of sniffer dogs, she would be in the clear?

No one really can. Everyone assumes along their own lines of thought.

I personally dont think the bins are a bad idea. Will be less of a chance of something like this happening again.

[RICEY]

Yet you assume she would have used the bin being in the same position of knowing nothig about her or her thoughts.

[mc68]

no, where did i say that? I said she may have taken it that choice, instead of jumping to a fucking conclusion saying theres no way she would have

[RICEY]

A conclusion formed using logic given the circumstances and her reaction to them.

[mc68]

a conclusion that is flawed and still very questionable. Given we almost certainly would not know all the circumstances.

fuck it, its my opinion, you have yours... I actually cbf ricey

[RICEY]

I actually cbf ricey

Well we have one thing in common..

[AGIT8D]

That you both wanna win teh internetz? :)

[Rantopotamus]

To put it simply, she's a fucking retard. I have no sympathy for her, it was her choice to take the drugs, it was her choice to carry them into the event (or attempt to anyway).

She failed and as a consequence, she died.

Jesus dude a chick died... thats a bit harsh. and FYI there was new news on the radio today she was still running around for close to 3 hours after she ate them. The fucking Volunteer paramedics let her go back into the crowd and she passed out and hour and a bit later. Yeah, drug tasking = risk factor you play the game u get burnt... whatever. But Jesus is dropping 3 pills coz your scared ur gonna get caught by a unknowing 17 yr old chick really a crime punishable by death?

Fuck blaming anyone but if she got proper treatment at the big day out she could have made it. After all the arguing and ideas over it I think best way to deal with it is surrender to the fact people will take drugs at events. if you do that does not give anyone the fucking right to wish them dead.

All they should do is have properly paid and trained paramedics with the right equipment at events.. fucking simple.

[Lump]

paramedics said they couldnt have done more than the first aiders that saw her... not sure if i agree with that but thats what they said.

[[FFOUR]]

Nobody wished her dead or said she deserved to die, have another read.

But some of us don't feel any sympathy for her or other drug users, its quite simple really. Use them all you like, I don't care, but if shit goes wrong then bad luck - you knew the risks.

Same goes with speeding in the hills for example, I know the risks of doing it and if it all goes wrong one day I really don't have anyone else to blame. Doesn't mean I deserved to die but I also wouldn't expect people to go out looking for someone else to blame.

[cplagz]

Ok, I heard her father on the radio this morning, trying to blame the volunteer first aiders for not being "well trained" enough.

He said, and I quote "She told them she took 3 dexies, they monitored her for 25 minutes and let her go again"

SHE FUCKING LIED TO THEM
IF YOU FEEL SHIT ONCE YOU'VE DROPPED - DO NOT FUCKING LIE ABOUT IT, NO MATTER THE CONSEQUENCES.

They could have induced vomiting and possibly saved her life, if they had've known she'd taken 3 MDMA tablets, they would have referred it straight to paramedics.

Therefore - the SOLE blame for this incident rests upon HER shoulders and possibly HER PARENTS.

No one elses. Not the dealers, not the police, not the first aiders who spend their day there getting fucking abused and dealing with idiots. It was HER CHOICE to buy and to consume the pills. As a result, she is dead.

I have been to more events then I can remember, long before it became "cool" to drop pingers. I've not once touched them, but 99% of my friends have. I made it my duty to know what they took, and how many, purely for the fact if an incident like this occurred I would be able to handle it. I've had friends smoke more stuff then you can imagine, drop every pill you can possibly buy - both "legal" and illegal and shove god knows what up their noses. All of them are still alive to this date.

It makes you wonder - she had 3 pills, dropped one at home. I highly doubt this was her first time, especially considering the fact her mother was giving them a lift. If you can't notice the eye wobbles, jaw clenching, bullshit talking, open emotions, dilated pupils .etc You're a fucking idiot.

/end rant

PS - Jan, I'd sex you, but you sold the Evo. So no :)

[Evilteddy]

Jesus dude a chick died... thats a bit harsh. and FYI there was new news on the radio today she was still running around for close to 3 hours after she ate them. The fucking Volunteer paramedics let her go back into the crowd and she passed out and hour and a bit later. Yeah, drug tasking = risk factor you play the game u get burnt... whatever. But Jesus is dropping 3 pills coz your scared ur gonna get caught by a unknowing 17 yr old chick really a crime punishable by death?

Fuck blaming anyone but if she got proper treatment at the big day out she could have made it. After all the arguing and ideas over it I think best way to deal with it is surrender to the fact people will take drugs at events. if you do that does not give anyone the fucking right to wish them dead.

All they should do is have properly paid and trained paramedics with the right equipment at events.. fucking simple.

Wow... No offence dude... but wow...

You're saying that if the paramedics were trained correctly and had the right equipment, she might be still alive?

You're almost as bad as all these people blaming the police for having the sniffer dogs there which 'made' her take the pills.

The paramedics did what they could, and in most circumstances if the chick had been chewing off her face... she would have been 'pleading' to go back out into the grounds to be with friends, not wanting to stay in the first aid room.

What proper equipment is there for her anyways?

Sure with speed, they can give you a valium or something to calm you down, slow your heart rate before you die.

Sure with heroin they can give you some fluids to bring you back up...
But when these pills effect the fluids in your brain... what could ANYONE DO?
Not just paramedics... pump her stomach? pffft... the drugs would have already digested and started to take effect.

Seriously, these paramedics are under tough conditions as it is, having to rescue people from the crowd who go to hard, who don't look after themselves, placing the blame on them is a cop-out.

[Ryan1080]

What is it with the tendency in society these days to blame others for your fuck ups? She knew what she was doing. She knew the risks. She lied to paramedics about what she took. It's 100% her fault, and not anybody else's.

[cplagz]

Not pingpingpingping wants to be responsible for anything, its easier to blame others, sue them, get some fuckwit judge who rules that it wasn't "fair" and "reasonable", you/family get a massive payout for being a FUCKING IDIOT.

Society is failing at an alarming rate. I think we need to start filtering the gene pool.

So.... who wants to be the next Hitler?

[ben351]

all i have to say is i would totally fuck the Mum.

[ACTIV3]

I reckon it could be setup a undercover pig will be waiting their or around until some throws it in the bun AND *BAM*** done!

[cplagz]

I reckon it could be setup a undercover pig will be waiting their or around until some throws it in the bun AND *BAM*** done!

I'm sure the lobby groups would ensure that this situation would not occur. Be funny to see a cooker run and and rip sh*t outta the bin and run off with it LOL

[ACTIV3]

hahahah Someone just sitting in the bin seeling the pills! Might look like your throwing them away but instead ur buying them hrmm Ideas!

[sami_]

Is it just me, or is Perth (Australia?) just getting more and more stupid/retarded everyday?

Drug bin? Are you fukn serious!?

[YOUR MATE]

Uh yeah, totally everyone elses fault other than hers. Police dogs held a gun to her head and said drop 3 pills then lie about them when your fucked up. Same boat as that car load of 17 yr olds that wrote themselves off doing twice the posted limit in their Beemer when they'd just gotten P's, it was the road's fault.

Seriously WTF are people thinking? Young idiots being just that, young fucking idiots, write themselves off and ppl blame everyone BUT them. You buy drugs, you take them, you die = YOUR fault. You take mums car + speed over roads you dont know + die = YOUR FAULT! Stop trying to justify what your kids/mates/some stranger did and face the consequences. Chicks these days pop pills coz they're 14 and it's a fucking Wednesday, safe to say it wouldnt of been her first time. But even if it was, no one made her do it so no ones fault but hers no matter how you spin it.

[Darklove]

all i have to say is i would totally fuck the Mum.

Funny you should say that
I was thinking fukn milf as well while I was watching her cry on TV
Begging for the barry

[ACTIV3]

Nthn Suss - +1 NO one throw it down her throat she got scared and sallowing them = fkn ediot easy could just throw them away! But nothing would of happen if she didnt have them in the 1st time,

Police want to stop it, have cops at the doors searching / sniffer dogs at the gates this will reduce people taking / bring them But no the goverment dnt give a shit the rather give money to coons !

[YOUR MATE]

Ms Thoms’ best friend Cassandra, who was with the apprentice hairdresser when she collapsed, said Ms Thom used ecstasy previously but “it was not a regular thing”.

Ms Thoms was worried the police would ruin their day and had not thought of the dangers of taking several pills at once.

Same article says the Mother had spoken to her about drug use.... Sure paid off.

[ACTIV3]

We cannot really blame to parents at the end its the kids fault

[Darklove]

We cannot really blame to parents at the end its the kids fault

Parent to kid - "drugs are bad. Do them and you could die. Never do them. Ever."

Kid - "Yeah whatever mum I'll do what I want get fuked"

It's her fault, not the cops, not the paramedics, not the parents, end of story. Shit happens. You can't tell me that at 17 years of age she had no idea that taking drugs can lead to death.

[Rantopotamus]

I did say not blaming anyone.. and the reason i mentioned the medics was becoz if they did have proper training they could have heloed.. but yes you are right the girl didnt tell them what she had so they didnt treat for Mdma but the dexies... Txt's are always miscommunicated. i did everything everyone did and took whatever and I have long standing side effects and blame no one but myself.

i guess what i was saying is we have a 17yo chick here at work and they really are clueless at that age.. i was just shocked at the ruthlessness of peoples comments say its her fault she died.. = fail. Yes its her fault and yes its done but i was just putting the proper paramedic at events idea out there as a suggestion.

Granted I do have an issue who judge people by taking drugs, so again to set communications straight i wasnt poking a finger at anyone here or making excuses. ITs her fault. But shit i do sympathize with the girl..

make sense?

[Darklove]

[B]i guess what i was saying is we have a 17yo chick here at work and they really are clueless at that age



What rubbish. She's 17, not 5 for fuck sakes.

[ACTIV3]

she is 17 she Knows what is right and what is wrong and what pills do !

[Ryan1080]

And girls tend to have a more mature mind at a younger age than boys do. At 17 she's no kid, but an adult. 100% her fault.

[Rantopotamus]

ok shes not stupid but shes an expert on drug usage and its affects right? I was eating everything i could eat and smoking everything i could find at 18
i had no idea of the damages it was really doing or if i had a fever I needed to cool down or if my ra ra.. yeah ohhh i dont feel well ... or somethings not right, yes your human wow u know somethings not right doesnt mean she has the knowledge of how to fix it.. Im like the other bloke who mentioned he knows what all his mates take and can be there as an aid when people need each other.. I havent touched anything for 4 years and wont again, but I still have a lot of knowldge because of personal experience on how to deal with certain scenarios when people have adverse affects... What im saying is her and her friend didnt.. making them clueless not fucking idiots or not stupid. She was Stupid for not telling the medics.. I agree.. and thats why I said before my bad.. but no fucking way at 17 chicks who pick up off their older borther or boyfriend whoever know how to treat each other when in the shit.. She was obviously scared thats why she dropped them.. and no matter how bad she felt she still didnt tell the paramedics.. I guess my arguement is that is her mistake that is her fault. Taking the drugs could have ended up in a different conclusion if she spoke up prior to self microwaving herself.

[ACTIV3]

Dufus in saying "i had no idea of the damages it was really doing "

Well thats the Problem People dont know what the fk it dose but by now the Mind state of Drugs everyone Knows the effects when you take it and what it dose and if she has done it before she def knows whats going on

its 100% her fault unless someone forced it down her which i dought

[cplagz]

Can we just end this thread.

She failed at life - one more person with an IQ below room temperature is gone, move on, survival of the fittest (or in this case, intelligence).

[Joe]

The blame for this tragedy solely lies with Drs. Walther Beck, Otto Wolfes and Anton Köllisch, who back in 1911, attempted to use 3-methyl-hydrastinine as an alternative to ordinary hydrastinine, to stop abnormal bleeding in patients.

MDMA was discovered as one of the precursors in this research, and although the research was canned for economic reasons, other scientists re-started the research on MDMA again in the 1960s.

WA Police are currently attempting to have the doctors exhumed and extradited to Australia, as its totally their fault.

[ACTIV3]

Its just funny how people dont get the idea! Their IQ must be way below room temp or dropped on their head when they were lil o well i said what i wanted 2!

[HomeDawwg]

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH WA????

Every day people in australia become more the like those fuken retarded americans. Every day something makes me wonder about the society we live in.

No-one can take responsibility for their own actions? My 7 yo brother would know that taking drugs is not smart, how did she not?

[yeahlow34]

In summary:

Girl takes drugs willingly;
Girl feels ill;
Girl goes to first aid, and, girl lies to first aid;
First aid lets girl go after 25 minute examination;
Girl dies;
****GIRLS FAULT****
Not the fucking first aid, not the fucking police, not fucking Oprah. Her fucking fault. She chose to take the drugs.

For clarification:
Did she deserve to die? No
Did we wish she was dead from taking drugs? No
Is it sad? Yes

But she did take drugs, and she only has herself to blame. She was young, she made a mistake, and, paid the ultimate price.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fucktard.

And if you try and blame the paramedics that have to deal with this shit and these people at events like this, you fucking fail at life. Stick your extra training up your fucking ass.

[Ryan1080]

^^^^ What he said.

[titmeat]

+1

[TJ]

In summary:

Girl takes drugs willingly;
Girl feels ill;
Girl goes to first aid, and, girl lies to first aid;
First aid lets girl go after 25 minute examination;
Girl dies;
****GIRLS FAULT****
Not the fucking first aid, not the fucking police, not fucking Oprah. Her fucking fault. She chose to take the drugs.

For clarification:
Did she deserve to die? No
Did we wish she was dead from taking drugs? No
Is it sad? Yes

But she did take drugs, and she only has herself to blame. She was young, she made a mistake, and, paid the ultimate price.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fucktard.

And if you try and blame the paramedics that have to deal with this shit and these people at events like this, you fucking fail at life. Stick your extra training up your fucking ass.


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