Antilag Street Series - Sponsored by Tech 9 Tyres and Nexen

[Brockas]

Antilag Street Series
Sponsored by Tech 9 Tyres and Nexen

Introducing the Antilag Street Series. A time-attack series based around providing affordable motorsport to people with street orientated cars.

The Street Series will be held at Wanneroo, run in a time-attack format. For those of you who haven’t done a time-attack event before, 6 cars will be out on the track at once and you race against the clock, not each other.
There will be tight regulations imposed mainly to ensure a fair and even playing field regardless of your budget.


You will compete against people in the same class. Classes are as follows:

• Mitsubishi Evo Class
• Subaru WRX Class
• Nissan GTR Class
• AWD other
• RWD over 2400cc
• RWD under 2400cc
• FWD
• B-reg Class

There will be an outright leaderboard as well.

A control tyre will be used. This is a Nexen N6000, and will be the only tyre allowed in the competition. We have organised with Tech 9 Tyres to subsidise the cost of the tyres, and as such you will get them at a cheap price.

Cars will be restricted to a maximum tyre width of 235’s.

To be eligible you must compete in 6 or more nights throughout the year. Your best time from each night will be counted as points to one decimal place, with your 6 best nights counted towards your overall score. The driver with lowest points is the leader of the class.

Being a ‘street’ series, the car must be street registered (but we have included a "b-registered" class).



To get access to these "cheap" tyres, you will have to register and provide your drivers licence, name, rego, etc.


An average person walking off the street would pay over $800 for a set of 235/40/18 Nexen N6000 tyres (this is an example only), so we hope you appreciate the effort we have gone to (and our sponsors) to cut the costs as much as we can.


Safety requirements are a road-worthy vehicle, CAMS L2S licence (available here: http://www.cams.com.au/downloads/paperforms/CAMSLevel2LicRenewal.pdf), and a 1kg fire extinguisher.



If you have any queries feel free to contact either myself (0402 418 697) or Chris (0417 992 963) or simply reply to this thread and we will try to field any questions you may have.



Cheers :)



Additional Info (thanks for asking!):

Rounds are conducted on the No Limit Motorsport nights at Wanneroo.

Cams licence costs $95pa and requires you to fill in 1 form (linked above). You will need the L2S (speed) licence.

An e-mail address will be supplied soon (its being set up tomorrow) for you to send in your entries.

Control tyres will be available in 15", 16", 17", and 18".
If you're racing on 19", let me know and we will try and sort you out a good price on these tyres, but obviously they will be a little more.

Entry is $165 per event, which covers your No Limits night.

The RWD classes are not split between FI and N/A.


If you already have these tyres, then just register and come to a No Limits night like you usually would, registration to this series is FREE.

If you want to get the tyres from somewhere else, then so-be-it, however you will get them substantially cheaper from Scott at Tech9 after you register with us and pay for your first event.


Obviously there will be things we have to address, but don't be so harsh we will try to accomodate everyone :)



REGISTER HERE:

streetseries@antilag.com

Please include....

Name:
Username:
Drivers Licence Number:
Tyre Size Required (eg. 235/40/17):
Type of car:


This will allow us to order your tyres, and organise you an entry to the first No Limits night.



These are the entrants I have recorded so far.

This will be updated as people start sending them in.



Street Series Classes:

• Mitsubishi Evo Class
Brett Stapleton (BAS)
Vaughan Secomb
John Otter


• Subaru WRX Class
Geoff Weir (Qu3xy)
Adam Nielsen


• Nissan GTR Class
Paul Brockbank (Brockas)
Chris Reynolds (Chris260)
Jeff Ash
Kye Bidzinksi (kyebidz)
Gav Beer (GTRgav)
Kyle Cheong
Travis Cook


• AWD other
Rob Hoare (Prototype)
Josh Gardner (josh123)
Marty Shipton


• RWD over 2400cc
Michael Brewer
Connie Fogliani (Fogr33)
Tom O'Sullivan (SSICK)
Matt Bertocchi (tocchi)
Glen Ashley (EVLTDY)
Paul Cornes (GTS-t VSPEC)
Glen Ashley
William White
Brendon Greaves
Gordon Reynolds

• RWD under 2400cc
Matt Chapman
Brenden Attard (DISTRBD)
Matthew Thompson
Brenton Talbot (Rando)
Stephen Murphy
Karl Davis
Aaron Bishop


• FWD
Blake Parry (Lonewolf)
Sena Pratama
Tuyen Nguyen


• B-reg
Marc Roissetter (OptiC)

[Brockas]

Questions answered in first post.

As for the link, try this:
http://www.cams.com.au/content.asp?PageID=PaperForms

You're after a Cams 2S licence.

[jEstEr?]

more info on the donutz



summer tyres Roadstone-Nexen N6000 for passenger cars

ultra high performance summer tyre

The N6000 will eventually be available in 15 Y- and W-speed rated sizes, for rims from 15" to 20" and with aspect ratios from 55 series down to a very low profile 35 series. Nexen says that an ultra high performance tread compound gives excellent dry traction, while the directional tread design, with its four, wide, straight channels and lateral grooves, provides good wet performance and aquaplaning resistance. Another recent introduction is the H- and V-rated Roadian HP range of tyres for SUVs. Available in 18 sizes, from 65 series to 30 series aspect ratios and rims up to 22", the Roadian range combines a silica tread compound with a directional tread pattern to provide high performance tyre qualities to luxury SUV drivers.

http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_mall/autoway/cabinet/nexen/n6000.jpg

[R3N]

i've never been to a no limits night before, how does the timing work?

[Tech9tyres]

This event has bulk merit and potential.
Cant wait to see what times get posted.
Will highlight the skills and limits of both cars and drivers.
Should be a lot of fun :)

[Brockas]

i've never been to a no limits night before, how does the timing work?

You are given a transponder to put in your car, and the timing is recorded in the tower.

[evlgurl]

Totally a n00b question. But was wondering if you can get some runs in with a trainer or someone as well at these events. just to start of with to learn the track.
Sorry if its been answered elsewhere.

[Brockas]

Totally a n00b question. But was wondering if you can get some runs in with a trainer or someone as well at these events. just to start of with to learn the track.
Sorry if its been answered elsewhere.

Yes, as it is technically a driver training night it is recommended that you go out there with an instructor if it's your first time on the track (or even if you've been out before!).



There is no 'cut off' date for entry, it is a 12 month series, so as long as you get in 6 round before next March, you will be eligible.

[Riggs]

This could be an insentive to get my shit together...

Keen as mustard.

Is there a limited number of entrants?

[chris260]

This series will not suit everyone. It was created to allow people to come to the track for some fun for the cheapest cost possible.

Everyone's cars will be faster with better tyres (bigger tyres etc) but bigger and better cost a lot more.

Lap times are not the most important part of this series (but I know everyone will be trying their best) but in the back of your mind you will always know your car will go faster on a better tyre so why not relax and just have some fun at the track with your mates on cheap tyres.

[chris260]

Is there a limited number of entrants?

Nope

[chris260]

Why not let them run on any street tyre ??

You can......you just can not be part of the Antilag Street Series.

Everyone reading this forum is into cars, modifying them, improving them and making them go faster.

You can go to the track on any event and race you car. No one is stopping you. Basically the more money you pour into your car the faster it will go.

This series was designed to make things a little more interesting by using a control tyre. It means the guys with 400+ HP are not necessarily at an advantage to a car wth lower power.

Basically the guys with a lower budget will still be able to come and play and be competitive.

[BAS]

Sounds like a good event, i'm keen.

Only suggestion that 6 events might be too much to make the series competitive, might not be many who actually can get out there 6 times due to work conflict, shit weather, etc. Only 9 No Limits events scheduled for remainder of year. Just a thought, great idea in any case.

And looking forward to watching the heavy cars getting the power down on 235's- thanks from the evo guys, i run that size normaly!

[Lonewolf]

Sounds like a good event, i'm keen.

Only suggestion that 6 events might be too much to make the series competitive, might not be many who actually can get out there 6 times due to work conflict, shit weather, etc. Only 9 No Limits events scheduled for remainder of year. Just a thought, great idea in any case.

And looking forward to watching the heavy cars getting the power down on 235's- thanks from the evo guys, i run that size normaly!

runs through to march next year, so 12 events.
Agreed that it could be tricky pushing for 6 events if winter gets rained out a lot, but the line has to be drawn somewhere.

[Lonewolf]

oh, i presume Tech9 will fit/balance the rubber?

[Brockas]

Yes they will fit the tyres.

[cplagz]

I think the fundamental point everyone seems to be missing - this is a fun series to compete in with one control aspect - tyres. If you can't buy them in your size ... Antilag.com can't help that.

Not many cars come in 18*11 stock, and not many people around here can afford cars that do!

It's a "STREET SERIES" abide by the guidelines set out, or don't enter. It's really not that hard. If you are so determined to "race", go and do the Sprint Series.

As chris has said - if you want to enter B-reg, race car, penis extension, magic carpet or monkey magic cloud - do a No Limits night.

I'm sure we could bash a sticky up with a "leaderboard" if you want an ego boost.

This is an attempt for Antilag to try and promote a clean, "non-hoon" image to the public for car enthusiasts and you want to fucking nit pick on it.

[chris260]

Paul & Chris, with 'No Limits' and this series, are competitors required to have a WASCC membership?

if so, im presuming its a compulsory expenditure, you might want to add that on the first post in the cost list. (unless its been added to the first post since ive read it)


No Limits are Cams Affiliated no need for WASCC membership

[chris260]

If a heap of B-Reg cars join the series then we will break them up into classes.

We will have to wait and see how many B-Reg cars we get.

Like I said before, we will try to keep everyone happy as best we can.

[Alt_F4]

No Limits are Cams Affiliated no need for WASCC membership

Will we need to apply for the CAMS license beforehand, or can it be done on the day of the first event attended?

[Brockas]

Will we need to apply for the CAMS license beforehand, or can it be done on the day of the first event attended?

I don't believe CAMS do day licences anymore.


I would suggest you apply for your licence NOW as it can take up to 2-3 weeks for them to send you one out.

[mys1]

If you ring cams direct they will fax you a Temporary Liscence if needed.

If you join No Limits you can pay for your cams liscence through them along with the membership at the same time. As you need to be a member of a CAMS Club to be a member.

[DJ84WA]

are all the events run on the same set of tyres?
or are you allowed to buy newer ones if the original set is farked?

[chris260]

are all the events run on the same set of tyres?
or are you allowed to buy newer ones if the original set is farked?

You can use up as many tyres at the cheap price as you want.

[chris260]

Any car rego'ed in Australia is in.

[Brockas]

As posted by Scotty on Perth-WRX, some explination of why we have chosen the Nexen:


Hi Guys and Girls,

Sorry for the late reply. Was a pretty busy day today. Bit of back ground info.

As for brand of tyres. The Nexen tyre brand is owned by the company YHI that is listed on the Singapore stock exchange. It owns companies such as Enkei, OZ, Konig, and Advanti and also sponsors some pretty large race events. Namely formula 1. (Red bull race team)

The nexen brand is a good mid level brand street tyre. The n6000 has been released to take over the N3000 role. Simular to Hankook and Kumho for quality and performance. (All made in Korea)
No it won’t be as good as a Toyo t1r or a Falken 452 around a track. But it is a fraction of the cost.
Paul, Chris and I put some thought into what is a good affordable tyre that can offer performance up at the track with out burning hole in your pockets.

Note $140 Inc GST and fitting for a 235.40.18 in the N6000 is cheaper than what most tyres shops can buy this product for. RRP is $180 - $200
I approached Nexen who were interested in offering a subsidy for their product in an attempt to promote motorsport in a ground root level.
What other brand in this price range will compete with the Nexen around the track?
I have personally run the nexens on all my cars. Not just pissing around town parking up in the city. I have had them off the clock and also hard into corners. For a street tyre they worked great. I have pushed them on rear wheel drive cars with 500+ and guess what? They still spin. As do Pirelli and Continental. They are a STREET tyre.
Not black magic rings of grip. The whole idea of this event is every one has the same tyre as what you will be running. So it’s a fair tyre level.
It will come down to the driver keeping the car on the road not the R Comps or $500 a corner street tyre.
People complaining about costs, should think twice about motorsport. It doesn’t get much cheaper than this event.

I think this event has bulk potential. Can’t wait to see some lap times posted up

If you want to see the N6000. Feel free to swing past the shop for a look.

Scott T9T
www.tech9tyres.com.au

[Jai Philp]

i cbf reading through all pages, but wats the deal with spectators as such, wouldnt mind coming down to have a chat/look?

Spectator entry is $5 per person unless you are a nolimits member already.

[RICEY]

Is it complulsory to have an instructor if you havent driven there before? And if so do they have to drive or be a passenger?

[Lonewolf]

compulsory for the first round or so, so they can tell your not a knob.
Only required to be passenger.

[Jai Philp]

You -DON'T- have to do your times at a NoLimits event...
As long as you post 6 timed laps in the year...
NoLimits events is probably the easiest event to get lap times completed though.

Technically No Limits is about the only place where everyone (chris and brockas really) will be there to check your eligibilty to enter the category your running in. otherwise you could run anywhere and make up an event.

also you MUST have a passenger seat to run at a no limits night... no if's no butts... if you turn up without one you forfeit your entry fee and you go home to put one in... sounds harsh but them's the rules.

[Tech9tyres]

Prizes for first place will be a set of 17" Vault crystals (custom $ marks on each spoke) with Nexen tyres. ? interested much?

Working with our sponsors on prizes atm. They want some feed back on how the event is progressing. Will see how it pans out. :)




LOL!


I'm sorry, but considering we're doing this for FREE, we're not making any money out of it, AND we're getting people cheaper tyres, we don't have the budget to fork out for expensive prizes at the moment.

[chris260]

awesome idea !

that was a good question someone asked before too, any fuel regulations?

Nope no Fuel Regs

I don’t understand why people are asking about fuel?

If people are using another fuel that does not come out of a pump (Gas Station) then I guess it is going to be quite expensive like C16 or ELF and I guess if you are using that sort of fuel then you will probably making more than 500 hp.

This can only make your track experience a hell of a lot harder using a 235 tyre.

Fun to watch though.......Burnout!!!!

[Brockas]

We're not going to be able to monitor fuel.

HP isn't going to help you too much anyways, so it wont make much of a difference.

[chris260]

This is the result of our race ruel and control tyre test session

http://driftjapan.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/burnout.jpg

[xr06t]

sounds like a great plan!!

as long as there are more than 6 no limit events left we are ok to join later in the year i take it?

also, it looks like the no limits night could get very full if everyone who has posted interest in this thread enters, what is the limit at a no-limits (haha) night?

[Lonewolf]

50, and yes i see there being a fight for spots...

[chris260]

Just out of curiosity, whys there an evo wrx and GTR class instead of just a 4wd class?

There are a few reasons:

1.) The main reason is to keep this series as fair and as fun as we can.
(As you know the best way to keep cars on a level playing field is to use a control tyre but to keep costs down we had to limit the tyre size to a 235. This size tyre will suit an EVO far better than a GTR so there is really no point in running them together.

2.) For drivers to stay interested in competing I believe that they would much rather be in a field of the same type of cars and a smaller field.
(It sounds a lot better to tell your mates that you are sitting 5th in your category than telling them that your coming 43rd)

3.) I would think that we are going to get far more 4WD cars to the track than RWD or FWD cars.
(I may be wrong and we can change/add classes to keep it fair and fun. Nothing is set in concrete.)

4.) Driver skill will really shine in this series due to the amount of traction that you will NOT have. There is no doubt that the EVO's electronics will be helping the drivers acheive a great time on the track so it would not be fair to put the EVO into a class where other cars do not have that type of advantage.

[chris260]

sounds like a great plan!!

as long as there are more than 6 no limit events left we are ok to join later in the year i take it?

also, it looks like the no limits night could get very full if everyone who has posted interest in this thread enters, what is the limit at a no-limits (haha) night?

Maybe No Limits will run 2 or 3 of these nights a month for us.

[chris260]

Just wanted to say THANKYOU to everyone that has supported and mentioned that this was a great idea.

I know this Antilag Street Series seems very simple and easy to plan but there has been a lot of work that has gone on behind the scenes to get it to where it is now.

It has not been said until now but all the positive comments really mean a lot.

Thankyou!

[Brockas]

has anyone entered in another form of 4wd car ?

just wondering if i entered my 4wd tx3 who i would be up against.

The AWD class is there for people who own:

Legnum's
Stagea's
GTO's
Familia's
Liberty's
GTS-4's
TX3 4WD's
GTIR's

just to name a few :)

[Volatile Rob]

In regards to the tyre sizes and widths on different vehicles, maybe we could have it set up to comply with each vehicles tyre placard + 1" or something

This way each car will be running a safe tyre size & any accidents can't be automatically blamed on incorrect tyre size & load for the vehicle.

Not sure if this has been suggested, but i really cant be fucked reading through 10 pages of dribble about b regs & 13 inch wheels :)

Rob

PS: THE EVO CAN NEVA LOOOSE!

[chris260]

In regards to the tyre sizes and widths on different vehicles, maybe we could have it set up to comply with each vehicles tyre placard + 1" or something

This way each car will be running a safe tyre size & any accidents can't be automatically blamed on incorrect tyre size & load for the vehicle.

Not sure if this has been suggested, but i really cant be fucked reading through 10 pages of dribble about b regs & 13 inch wheels :)

Rob

PS: THE EVO CAN NEVA LOOOSE!

Two things here.....

I would hope NO ONE here would put the wrong tyre on the wrong rim and I am sure Tech9tyres would not do it either.

Secondly how do the Drift guys get away with streching tyres to the max. Who do they blame if they crash?

[Brockas]

Ok just culled 10 pages of posts leaving only the relevant information to make it easier for people to read.



REGISTER HERE:

streetseries@antilag.com

Please include....

Name:
Username:
Drivers Licence Number:
Tyre Size Required (eg. 235/40/17):
Type of car:


This will allow us to order your tyres, and organise you an entry to the first No Limits night.


Cheers :)

[Milhouse]

WA Drivers licence number or CAMS licence no ?

[RICEY]

There are a few reasons:

1.) The main reason is to keep this series as fair and as fun as we can.
(As you know the best way to keep cars on a level playing field is to use a control tyre but to keep costs down we had to limit the tyre size to a 235. This size tyre will suit an EVO far better than a GTR so there is really no point in running them together.

2.) For drivers to stay interested in competing I believe that they would much rather be in a field of the same type of cars and a smaller field.
(It sounds a lot better to tell your mates that you are sitting 5th in your category than telling them that your coming 43rd)

3.) I would think that we are going to get far more 4WD cars to the track than RWD or FWD cars.
(I may be wrong and we can change/add classes to keep it fair and fun. Nothing is set in concrete.)

4.) Driver skill will really shine in this series due to the amount of traction that you will NOT have. There is no doubt that the EVO's electronics will be helping the drivers acheive a great time on the track so it would not be fair to put the EVO into a class where other cars do not have that type of advantage.

Cool makes sense :)

[joshg123]

We're not going to be able to monitor fuel.

HP isn't going to help you too much anyways, so it wont make much of a difference.

For some of us, it may help. As my car uses a 225 maximum standard, the only change for me is compound.

And with the drivetrain, corner exit speed will benefit.

[addicted.to.speed]

Leave the front driveshafts out for this event paul. Otherwise weak. :D

[R3N]

There are a few reasons:

1.) The main reason is to keep this series as fair and as fun as we can.
(As you know the best way to keep cars on a level playing field is to use a control tyre but to keep costs down we had to limit the tyre size to a 235. This size tyre will suit an EVO far better than a GTR so there is really no point in running them together.

2.) For drivers to stay interested in competing I believe that they would much rather be in a field of the same type of cars and a smaller field.
(It sounds a lot better to tell your mates that you are sitting 5th in your category than telling them that your coming 43rd)

3.) I would think that we are going to get far more 4WD cars to the track than RWD or FWD cars.
(I may be wrong and we can change/add classes to keep it fair and fun. Nothing is set in concrete.)

4.) Driver skill will really shine in this series due to the amount of traction that you will NOT have. There is no doubt that the EVO's electronics will be helping the drivers acheive a great time on the track so it would not be fair to put the EVO into a class where other cars do not have that type of advantage.

I would've thought you'd be able to combine the evo/wrx classes? GTRs would obviously be in a class of their own. Oh and being in the same class as chook cooker are what i'd hardly call fair :p

was kidding about the last bit

[[SPESHAL]]

Paul are we able to compete in the March No Limits night or has this been hired solely for the use of the HSV Club?

[Lonewolf]

5th march = hsv club
26th march = open (but no entry sheet available yet)

[Alt_F4]

Leave the front driveshafts out for this event paul. Otherwise weak. :D

lol... in my 32R, one lap awd on, one lap off... two classes? :hahano:

[addicted.to.speed]

As this is seeming quite popular could you please speak to the no limits organisers about the start time issue - can they please start the event at the advertised time. Or if it starts 30 mins late then finish it 30 minutes later?

[Brute]

As this is seeming quite popular could you please speak to the no limits organisers about the start time issue - can they please start the event at the advertised time. Or if it starts 30 mins late then finish it 30 minutes later?

Good luck with that :hammer:

I have brought that issue up quite a few times, and it always semmed to fall on deaf ears.

[TJ]

Yeah rushing in peak hour traffic to make it only to then stand around for an hour sucks.

[Sciflyer]

On another note, although it would suck for those actually there, i can think of nothing better to shove in the governments' face than packed out events like No Limits, showing what limited avenues there are for people to 'take it off the streets'

[Brockas]

;409162']Paul are we able to compete in the March No Limits night or has this been hired solely for the use of the HSV Club?

5th March is sold out to HSV club, so 26th March is the first event.

[chris260]

ANTILAG Street Series Familiarization Meeting

Paul and I will be holding 2 Familiarization meetings for the Street Series, one north of the river and one south of the river.

The North of the river one will be held on Tuesday the 10th of Feb at 7:30pm at the Powis Street Carpark. (Click on link for location)
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=-31.923628,115.825253&spn=0.007003,0.009441&t=h&z=17

The South of the River will be on Thursday the 12th of Feb. (Paul will let you know where that one will be.)

You can ask any question face to face with us there.

Regards Chris

[DISTRBD]

Why not hold 1 meeting ??

[chris260]

Why not hold 1 meeting ??

Seriously guys can you think before you type.

We are trying to make it easier for people that live on both sides of the river so they don’t have to travel so far.

Bart please don’t take offence its just Paul and I don’t have all day to spend answering these sorts of questions.

We have created a Street Series for everyone to enjoy, we HAVE to make RULES...........People if you dont like what we are doing please stop reading this thread.

We do things that we think are correct and helpful. We really don’t want to be questioned on everything we do.

I really don’t want to piss anyone off but come on, please try and work with us.

This could turn into something great.

[R3N]

Why not hold 1 meeting ??

+1

happy to travel to somewhere central... like we do for cruises anyway, would save you guys hassles telling everyone the same thing and answering the same questions.

[R3N]

Seriously guys can you think before you type.

We are trying to make it easier for people that live on both sides of the river so they don’t have to travel so far.

Bart please don’t take offence its just Paul and I don’t have all day to spend answering these sorts of questions.

We have created a Street Series for everyone to enjoy, we HAVE to make RULES...........People if you dont like what we are doing please stop reading this thread.

We do things that we think are correct and helpful. We really don’t want to be questioned on everything we do.

I really don’t want to piss anyone off but come on, please try and work with us.

This could turn into something great.

Don't want it to sound like us telling you guys what to do but I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't mind meeting up somewhere central to save you and Paul some time. I know having 2 meetings is trying to accomodate the masses, but for once maybe the masses could accomodate for you guys. Also keep up the good work.

[chris260]

Don't want it to sound like us telling you guys what to do but I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't mind meeting up somewhere central to save you and Paul some time. I know having 2 meetings is trying to accomodate the masses, but for once maybe the masses could accomodate for you guys. Also keep up the good work.

We understand your point and it is a good one but what do the people do that can not make it to that 1 meeting. This way if you can not make it to one then you can attend the second one.

[R3N]

We understand your point and it is a good one but what do the people do that can not make it to that 1 meeting. This way if you can not make it to one then you can attend the second one.

Fair point... thanks for being so accomodating :cool:

[DISTRBD]

Seriously guys can you think before you type.

We are trying to make it easier for people that live on both sides of the river so they don’t have to travel so far.

Bart please don’t take offence its just Paul and I don’t have all day to spend answering these sorts of questions.



If i can travel 400k round trip to make it im sure a 30 k drive not that hard for perth .. make it out like NOR n SOR are seperated by sea .. and as for the questions im not only 1 asking and wont be the last ..


LOL no offence taken

[Evilteddy]

Another plus point for having 2 meetings, is if there is any decent questions that will effect MOST entrants, that Chris or Paul have not answered yet, they will know to let everyone know at the second meeting...

Also with 2 meetings, people might not be able to make the first or second one depending on work/life schedules. So it's helpful.

Good work Chris and Paul, and thanks to Scott at Tech9 and everyone else that is helping out.

[Fryman]

me and scott are ex lovers

[bjohnson]

Keen as for this.
Do my part to fill out the FWD class.

You might do well to post a link to this on ozhonda? there are a few civics/crx's over there who may be keen.

[Lonewolf]

Keen as for this.
Do my part to fill out the FWD class.

You might do well to post a link to this on ozhonda? there are a few civics/crx's over there who may be keen.

was wondering if you were gonna enter...

i guess if its being posted all over the place then thats a good spot to do it, depends i guess if entrants are actually members of antilag or its open slather?

[Jai Philp]

Two things here.....

I would hope NO ONE here would put the wrong tyre on the wrong rim and I am sure Tech9tyres would not do it either.

Secondly how do the Drift guys get away with streching tyres to the max. Who do they blame if they crash?

I can safely say noone would be running underload or wrong size tyres. unless your running 10" wide wheels a 235 is going to be fine. if you have 10" wide or bigger maybe you'd better look at a spare set of rims?

and on the subject of drift cars... they dont care about how much they stretch them but they do it for the reason that they get better response out of the tyre by removing the side to side movement from the sidewalls when cornering at high speed.
They like most people would blame everyone else... simple reality (and I would know best...) the only person to blame when you crash is the one sitting between the seat and the steering wheel. :P

[Tech9tyres]

$105.00 Inc 205/45/16 87w

$115.00 Inc 215/45/17 91w

$115.00 Inc 225/45/17 91w

$105.00 Inc 235/45/17 94w

$105.00 Inc 205/40/17 84w

$110.00 Inc 215/40/17 87w

$145.00 Inc 225/40/18 92y

$140.00 Inc 235/40/18 93y

$140.00 Inc 215/35/18 84y


Here is some pricing that I have been working on with Nexen.
For the event at moment taking pre orders. As the N6000 is still new, so stock levels are not huge. Pre order is recommended if not to miss out on first round.

To get access to these prices, you must be enrolled in the event.

You can by all mean by these tyres from any Nexen dealer. Not sure how well they will go matching our prices.

Tech 9 tyres have thrown a lot of support behind this event and I hope you guys will take full advantage of these efforts.
Support the people who support you. :)

Best of luck.

Regards

Scott
Tech 9 Tyres.

[SSICK]

let me race ya wrx for this series scott? good for businuss........maybe not so for ya car.

[Tech9tyres]

This is true. You taking the ute up for a belt?


let me race ya wrx for this series scott? good for businuss........maybe not so for ya car.

[Lonewolf]

Do we just order the tyres, or need brockas/chris to confirm our entry first?

[doriae86]

Any pricing on 15's - as per our phone convo late last week im most likely chasing some 205/50/15's or similar to suit corolla.

[chris260]

Do we just order the tyres, or need brockas/chris to confirm our entry first?

Basically if you have emailed the small amount of details through on the email address supplied you are eligible for the cheap tyre pricing. It would pay you to call Tech9tyres and make sure that they have the correct size for your car before you turn up.

Scott from Tech9tyres will have a list of all names and drivers licence numbers. Once you show him your drivers licence and the number on his list matches the number on your licence.......your in! (Your cheap Nexen N6000 tyres will be fitted)

[chris260]

ANTILAG Street Series Familiarization Meeting

Paul and I will be holding 2 Familiarization meetings for the Street Series, one north of the river and one south of the river.

The North of the river one will be held on Tuesday the 10th of Feb at 7:30pm at the Powis Street Carpark. (Click on link for location)
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=-31.923628,115.825253&spn=0.007003,0.009441&t=h&z=17

The South of the River will be on Thursday the 12th of Feb. (Paul will let you know where that one will be.)

You can ask any question face to face with us there.

Regards Chris

Just a reminder that this is happening tonight, would be great to catch up with some of you that might be interested in this series.

[OptiC]

Just sent my details through, looking forward to skids

ps. Tech9 is that price for tyres inc fitting or just tyre price?

[Tech9tyres]

Tyres fitted and balance.


Just sent my details through, looking forward to skids

ps. Tech9 is that price for tyres inc fitting or just tyre price?

[Tech9tyres]

For the near future 15s are un fortunately not available. :(


Any pricing on 15's - as per our phone convo late last week im most likely chasing some 205/50/15's or similar to suit corolla.

[doriae86]

unlucky. thanks anyway

[Spektor]

Hrmm that could be a problem for the FWD class. Oh well.

[Jai Philp]

Just wanted to say a HUGE thank you to Chris for organising the meeting last night. Although it was a small (alot smaller than i expected to be honest ) turnout it was good to meet some new faces and see some old ones and just have a chat about how the event will travel.

Hopefully the south of the river one has a better turn out.

[R3N]

Any news on the SOR meeting? Has a place been decided yet?

[Brockas]

We were waiting to see what the turnout of the first meeting was like.

It was decent, so theres obviously interest.


So, SOR meeting, 7pm Nando's on Leach Hwy Myaree on thursday night (the 12th)

[OptiC]

I'll be there with pants on... or off

either way I'll be there :D

[chris260]

OK, went to Tech9tyres and compared the 255 to the 235, this is what I saw.

http://i43.tinypic.com/23leiw7.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/fjnx8g.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/29viir8.jpg

[Alt_F4]

OK, went to Tech9tyres and compared the 255 to the 235, this is what I saw.

lol... are those 255's N3000s?

[chris260]

lol... are those 255's N3000s?

Yes they are...

[Lonewolf]

good to meet a couple of new faces last night, hopefully more people turn out for the SOR meet.

got email from scotty today saying they have my tyres, will get em next week and do a road test :)

[Jai Philp]

they ae a nice wide casing from the look of those photo's chris. Your going to need it.... LOL

[DISTRBD]

Im heading up for SOR meet ..

[magic1]

Im heading up for SOR meet ..

i will shout you nando's

[chris260]

i will shout you nando's

What about me? ........you tight ass :p

[BassMstr]

Im heading up for SOR meet ..


i will shout you nando's

:cuddle: :cuddle:


shout him a :beer:

[chris260]

:cuddle: :cuddle:


shout him a :beer:


PFFFFT!.........Cheap....hehehe

If DISTRBD puts his hand in his pocket to get his car keys........$500 + falls out and he does not even bother to pick it up. Moneybags....

[DISTRBD]

Why your driving up tonight and im passenger :beer:


shout him a :beer:






Tj has more cash in his pockets then i do


PFFFFT!.........Cheap....hehehe
If DISTRBD puts his hand in his pocket to get his car keys........$500 + falls out and he does not even bother to pick it up. Moneybags....

[Brockas]

See you all tonight :)

Theres a few of us heading down to get a feed just before the meeting.

[Jai Philp]

how did the meeting go last night??

[OptiC]

Was a good meeting, I would say there was 20 or so people and all questions asked were able to be answered by Chris and Paul.

Tyres look pretty interesting to can't wait to throw some one the drift pig and see how they go.

[Tocchi]

yeh the meeting went well.

i think most, if not all, are happy with the control tyre.

[Qu3xy]

Payed for my tires today. Get in there and get ready for the event everyone!

Meeting was great. Nando's is awesome. Tires look great. :-D

[Brockas]

These are the entrants I have recorded so far.

This will be updated as people start sending them in.



Street Series Classes:

• Mitsubishi Evo Class
John Otter (808)
Brett Stapleton (BAS)
Vaughan Secomb


• Subaru WRX Class
Geoff Weir (Qu3xy)
Adam Nielsen


• Nissan GTR Class
Paul Brockbank (Brockas)
Chris Reynolds (Chris260)
Jeff Ash
Kye Bidzinksi (kyebidz)


• AWD other
Rob Hoare (Prototype)
Josh Gardner (josh123)


• RWD over 2400cc
Michael Brewer
Connie Fogliani (Fogr33)
Tom O'Sullivan (SSICK)
Matt Bertocchi (tocchi)
Glen Ashley (EVLTDY)
Paul Cornes (GTS-t VSPEC)


• RWD under 2400cc
Matt Chapman
Marc Roissetter (OptiC)
Brenden Attard (DISTRBD)
Matthew Thompson


• FWD
Blake Parry (Lonewolf)
Sena Pratama


• B-reg Class

[R3N]

just an idea paul, how about putting the entrant's username if they're on the forums so we know who they are, also the cars entered

[BAS]

Damn, 7 million posts about this and only 10 or so putting their hands up...

Want details of this series on evo-oz or just for AL members?

[Brockas]

Sure, post it up.

R3N, those details will be up when we create a leaderboard.

[monk_13]

Damned work commitments... once no-limits 23rd of april entry forms are up all info will be sent off.

once again good work to all involved

[808]

Game on Brett.

[Qu3xy]

I am already the Winner! :-D

[yummy]

Sounds good, will probably sign up..

One question, I've got some pretty much brand new 235/45/17 Nexen N3000s on a set of extra wheels I have, can I use them? Would save me a ton of hassle if I could.

[doriae86]

Would love to compete, lack of 15” option in the n6000 is preventing me entering the official competition. Cant justify purchasing another spare set of wheels for my shtR.

Will still be out and about during the no limits nights though, just I wont have my times reconised as part of the antilag street series which is no biggie.

[Tocchi]

email sent!

[redline07]

Keen but lack of 13's limits me.

[Nismo33]

interested in this just need to sort a few things and I'l be signing up. May aswell use the car otherwise it sits in the back yard and does f all!
Will come check out the first event but will be in the next round I am guessing.

[BassMstr]

Email sent in with details

Should be good fun :banana:

[Brockas]

List updated, will enquire about the tyres (to see if we can allow n3000's for the 15" boys and others).

[zeroyon]

will enquire about the tyres (to see if we can allow n3000's for the 15" boys and others).

Thats a great idea !!
Gives you a decent 16" tyre as well.

[Lonewolf]

Would love to compete, lack of 15” option in the n6000 is preventing me entering the official competition. Cant justify purchasing another spare set of wheels for my shtR.

Will still be out and about during the no limits nights though, just I wont have my times reconised as part of the antilag street series which is no biggie.

sportivo runs 16's stock?

anyway, provided the 3000's dont provide any advantage over the 6000's then the more the merrier.

On that note, i sent off forms for the 26th, game on.

[Sully]

just out of interest, brockas at the meeting you mentioned to someone something about the FIA forced induction rules for multiplying out engine capacities. are you guys going to be doing that for deciding the rwd classes?
not going to have an impact on my entry (need $$$ first) because i'm going to be behind on power anyway being a 2.7 na motor.

just getting an idea of what sort of cars i'll be up against, ie with that rule sr20det's come in at about 3 litres, rb25's at 3.75.

if you are doing that, would it be a better idea to bump it up to 3 litres above and below?

[Brockas]

We were talking about RX7's at the time I believe, and them being in the under-2.4L class (as if you multiply 1.3 by 1.7 it still comes in under 2.4).


We aren't following any FIA forced induction rules as of yet, however the "RWD over 2400cc class" is looking like the most popular, so we may have to split that up further if we get the demand.

[Tech9tyres]

Would love to compete, lack of 15” option in the n6000 is preventing me entering the official competition. Cant justify purchasing another spare set of wheels for my shtR.

Will still be out and about during the no limits nights though, just I wont have my times reconised as part of the antilag street series which is no biggie.


Brand new Enkei SC14 16" rims with the N6000. $1200.00
Can be even cheaper with a advanti wheel. $900.00 mark

[mys1]

We were talking about RX7's at the time I believe, and them being in the under-2.4L class (as if you multiply 1.3 by 1.7 it still comes in under 2.4).


We aren't following any FIA forced induction rules as of yet, however the "RWD over 2400cc class" is looking like the most popular, so we may have to split that up further if we get the demand.

However if it is a Turbo rotary then it needs to be timesed by 1.5 on top of that for forced induction.

so its 1.3 x 1.7 x 1.5 = 3.315 (3300cc)

so if you where to use the FIA system, you'd need to make it accross the board to be fair, Ie an SR20 Turbo would be in the greater than 2400cc class under the same rule.

[zeroyon]

in regards to capacity it would probably best not to apply any multipliers.

Rotor's should be put in there own class, you can't really compare them to piston engines anyhow. I assume the rotors will make a good fight on the overall board too.

As for NA cars I think you will find the control tyre is going to limit any big HP advantages. An NA car will have a small weight advantage and can still make reasonable HP.

Even if the 3000 tyre is better people can switch to that. As it has all the size ranges of the other model and more.

Getting excited about this idea now ! Bring on the leaderboards !!

[Tocchi]

As for NA cars I think you will find the control tyre is going to limit any big HP advantages. An NA car will have a small weight advantage and can still make reasonable HP.

LOL. NA, heaviest car in the field, and a FORD V8 motor... im fucked!

[Evilteddy]

I think you'll find the N6000 is the better tyre, compared to the N3000.
I could be wrong, but that's just how i see it.

So dropping to an N3000 IF there are N6000 available in your size is a disadvantage at your own expense.

[zeroyon]

LOL. NA, heaviest car in the field, and a FORD V8 motor... im fucked!


lol .... thats the cars fault. Not the fact its NA !

A twin turbo Ford V8 would weigh more then your NA ford V8 :)

[chris260]

The N6000 is the control tyre.

The N3000 CAN NOT be used in this series.

I need to know numbers of how many people require 15" N6000 tyres.

Also, spots for the NO LIMITS night is filling up fast you HAVE TO get your NO LIMITS entry form sent in if you want to secure your spot.

If you leave your to the last minute you may miss out.

[zeroyon]

I need to know numbers of how many people require 15" N6000 tyres.


What about ppl that need a 16" n6000 thats wider then 205 ?

[chris260]

What about ppl that need a 16" n6000 thats wider then 205 ?

I have chosen the Nexen N6000 due to the fact that it is a very new tyre to the market and this Street Series has just started.

Nexen have these sizes available at he moment

$105.00 Inc 205/45/16 87w
$115.00 Inc 215/45/17 91w
$115.00 Inc 225/45/17 91w
$105.00 Inc 235/45/17 94w
$105.00 Inc 205/40/17 84w
$110.00 Inc 215/40/17 87w
$145.00 Inc 225/40/18 92y
$140.00 Inc 235/40/18 93y
$140.00 Inc 215/35/18 84y

The sizes and prices are only available form TECH 9 TYRES and only if you are part of the Street Series.

These sizes are all we have to work with at the moment. Nexen may cover more sizes in the future if the N6000 proves to be a popular tyre, we will have to wait and see.

Regards Chris

[Jai Philp]

you can put a 235 on a 9" wide wheel....

[Evilteddy]

Email sent :)

[GTS-t VSPEC]

My email is sent too :D

[Brockas]

http://www.antilag.com/forums/showpost.php?p=413362&postcount=102

List updated and e-mails sent.

No Limits nights are going to start to fill up pretty quickly.

[william]

Tried to register but link dont work :dunno:

[Brockas]

ummm ok... you sure?


I've just recieved another 2 entries from people using streetseries@antilag.com to register, but if thats not working for you try brockas@antilag.com

[OptiC]

RWD under 2400cc
Matt Chapman
Marc Roissetter (OptiC)
Brenden Attard (DISTRBD)
Matthew Thompson

Now I HAVE to put the GTR brakes on! damn you :P What car you entering in this class mate?

[Tocchi]

ok guys, i was at TECH9 yesterday, asked about the 235s in 18"s

they said they have none in stock, but late next week they should be expecting a shipment :)

[DISTRBD]

Brockas i emailed through entry , needs to be in over 2.4






RWD under 2400cc
Matt Chapman
Marc Roissetter (OptiC)
Brenden Attard (DISTRBD)
Matthew Thompson

Now I HAVE to put the GTR brakes on! damn you :P What car you entering in this class mate?

31 with rb20det , few mods .. os twin , 25det box , 2 way , brembos:boink:

[Brockas]

Brockas i emailed through entry , needs to be in over 2.4

dude, has the turkey gone to your head??

23/02/2009
10:38:51 PM
El Barto says:
change me n thommo to under 2.4 clas s .. brought myself a new 31 today with rb20det


So do you want to be under or over 2.4 class???

[GTS-t VSPEC]

dude, has the turkey gone to your head??

So do you want to be under or over 2.4 class???

He's covering both bases by being in two classes ;)

Spoke to Scott today, and hopefully getting tires next week too.

[BassMstr]

Tried to register but link dont work :dunno:


dude, has the turkey gone to your head??

23/02/2009
10:38:51 PM
El Barto says:
change me n thommo to under 2.4 clas s .. brought myself a new 31 today with rb20det


So do you want to be under or over 2.4 class???

Think he talking about Will's entry and i think turkey has gone to his head after weekend :barf: :barf:

[BassMstr]

He's covering both bases by being in two classes ;)



Enough cars here to go in 3 classes :lol:

[DISTRBD]

So do you want to be under or over 2.4 class???


I sent through Wills details but forgot to add what class over 2.4 RWD ..

[Brockas]

hahaha alright makes sense now

[Jai Philp]

DONT FORGET TO SEND YOU NO LIMITS ENTRY FORMS IN OR YOU WONT HAVE A SPOT......

[Lonewolf]

Dammit, Sena in the mental civic is entering.
50-60k honda vs 10k nissan.
Shall be interesting

[Brockas]

At least you have VVL...

[TJ]

Isnt Senna dead?

[FranZ]

*sigh* at TJ

[Kappo]

Is it full yet? and wat is the deadline if not full? i need to get the money together!!

[Lonewolf]

the antilag series doesnt have max entrants
if your talking about the 26th March no limits event, entries close on the 12th March, currently 11 people confirmed entered with 50 max I believe

[Brockas]

^^^ What he said.


Keep in mind we have 27 entrants for this series now. I know a lot of them are going to want to do the 26th, so I'd suggest sending your entry into No Limits as soon as possible to ensure your spot.

[Jai Philp]

http://www.nolimitevents.com/page.php?6

you can find no limits entry forms here.....

[Tech9tyres]

Ok in stock as of today.

Nexen n6000 235/40/18
Nexen n6000 235/45/17
Nexen n6000 215/35/18
Nexen n6000 205/40/17

Please call to book car in for tyres to be fitted.

Other sizes still in transit. Will notify when in stock.

Regards

Scott
Tech 9 Tyres

[Tocchi]

awesome, ill pop in next week for them (my rims are at Alliance until next week).

but probably will pop in 2moro to get more tyres stripped off tyres again. lol. that ok?

[Tech9tyres]

Yeah all good. What time you think u will be round?


awesome, ill pop in next week for them (my rims are at Alliance until next week).

but probably will pop in 2moro to get more tyres stripped off tyres again. lol. that ok?

[Evilteddy]

Will call in the morning to sort out to get mine fitted... I go away in a week so need them before i go away.

[Jai Philp]

Just an update....
entries are almost booked out for this event.
List will be updated next week when we have time after tomorrow's event.

we haven't received entries from all of those on the antilag list... so if you dont want to miss out and have to wait until april you need to get your entries in NOW.

[Tocchi]

Yeah all good. What time you think u will be round?
is between 1pm and 3pm ok?



Just an update....
entries are almost booked out for this event.
List will be updated next week when we have time after tomorrow's event.

we haven't received entries from all of those on the antilag list... so if you dont want to miss out and have to wait until april you need to get your entries in NOW.
im not entering March's event. but will be in april :)

[OptiC]

Just an update....
entries are almost booked out for this event.
List will be updated next week when we have time after tomorrow's event.

we haven't received entries from all of those on the antilag list... so if you dont want to miss out and have to wait until april you need to get your entries in NOW.

Can we pay for entry and membership on the day? I don't get paid for another 2 weeks and am already broke due to extra money spent getting the car ready. :|

My forms are all filled out I just don't have the $$$ to lay down yet :(

[BAS]

Scott- sent you an email regarding my tyres- you get it?

Brett

[Jai Philp]

Can we pay for entry and membership on the day? I don't get paid for another 2 weeks and am already broke due to extra money spent getting the car ready. :|

My forms are all filled out I just don't have the $$$ to lay down yet :(

you can but its not recommended... and you may lose your spot to someone that has paid... but you still need to send in your forms.

don't take the risk.... if you can avoid it.

[OptiC]

Forms will be sent in tomorrow morning ;)
Cash will have to wait :(

[R3N]

Other No Limits dates for those that are wondering

26th March
23rd April
28th May
25th June
23rd July
27th August
24th September
22nd October
10th December

http://www.nolimitevents.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?2083

[lukits01]

Just had tires fitted over the weekend
they are very comfy lol

[Qu3xy]

When will the 16's be in?

[Evilteddy]

Just picked up the new tyres.
Cheers Scott and Tech9, they feel good... looking forward to getting out on the track with them.

[Tech9tyres]

Killa man. Glad your happy. Keep us posted how they go .


Just picked up the new tyres.
Cheers Scott and Tech9, they feel good... looking forward to getting out on the track with them.

[Lonewolf]

tyres on today, will await break in period before commenting how sticky they are, cheers scott

[iluv2moan]

pretty vague question - but would most cars at these events drop back into 2nd gear around barbs?

[Soul]

just 3rd usually

[Lonewolf]

i probably would at some stage due to high redline

[ED40]

I only drop back to second at the hairpin on the short circuit.

[DCIEVE]

pretty vague question - but would most cars at these events drop back into 2nd gear around barbs?

but whats the bet you'l do the 3-4 synchro as well :wiggle:

[iluv2moan]

but whats the bet you'l do the 3-4 synchro as well :wiggle:

still have to downshift to 3rd at some stage so cant avoid the inevitable crunch.

theres a r154+1jz forsale if u wanna go halves and dont mind adjusting the seat :)

[Brockas]

2nd around the hairpin.

Used to have to go 2nd on turn 8 before the pit straight, as the car was so laggy. Hoping to use 3rd now.

[monk_13]

3rd is the lowest gear I have used. BUT... my car also has an abundance to torque down low (well enough to see it around in no lower than third). I thought I may have to shift down to second when cutting through the short track, but my times showed that by doing so it was slower than staying in third. Even the instructor I was with mentioned that, with the amount of torque i had down low, meant that my car was third gear happy.

BUT in the end, IMO it all comes down to how the car is set up. Gearing, lag( as brockas mentioned above) suspension, tyre grip, overall hp and your driving style etc.

[Sully]

3rd and 4th for me only but that was with taller gearing than i have now and also running on r-comps so carrying more speed through the corners. might be different now.... won't know til i get out there. like monk said, it's all going to depend on your car - torque, gearing and corner speed

[BAS]

Its irrelevant what gear other people use, what gears YOU need to use will depend on your car, but even if you are driving the same type of car as someone else will depend on how much speed you are carrying through the corners.

Just make sure you get an instructor coming around with you the first few times, you'll soon work out what you are comfortable with.

[Spektor]

Just to backup what Brett (BAS) said. I'm the exact opposite of Monk_13. My torque/power is all up high so I need lower gears to get around faster.

For interests sake, I wrote up some notes for myself a year or so ago
http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/8920/pacenotesmx7.jpg

[lukits01]

Just to backup what Brett (BAS) said. I'm the exact opposite of Monk_13. My torque/power is all up high so I need lower gears to get around faster.

For interests sake, I wrote up some notes for myself a year or so ago
http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/8920/pacenotesmx7.jpg

hey that's pretty nice notes, thanks for sharing

[Mofo]

how does the time-attack format work?

are cars released one at a time and then you have X number of laps to complete your fastest time?

[Soul]

hey that's pretty nice notes, thanks for sharing

+1 Thanks for that. Now at least I have a little idea of what to do :p

[Lonewolf]

how does the time-attack format work?

are cars released one at a time and then you have X number of laps to complete your fastest time?

groups of 5-10 cars (from memory) let out at a time.
usually a warmup lap, 3 hot laps, and a cooldown lap

oh, and gave the nexens a good hiding tonight.
Not particularly grippy, but found them progressive when they do let go. Will be fun to race on!

[R3N]

If join nolimits first and then enter the street series later, do I still have to pay the membership bit of the entry fees?

[Kilma]

There aren't any entry fees. That's why there aren't prizes or their own events etc. The membership is actually a membership for No Limits, not this series.

There is a standard set of limits which are imposed, which have made up the "entry fees".

Paul, Chris, Scott & co have just set up an affordable set of limits for people (and good deals at that) to abide by, get some good competition going, and hopefully entice some more people into motorsport to hopefully get more events.

[Spektor]

groups of 5-10 cars (from memory) let out at a time.
usually a warmup lap, 3 hot laps, and a cooldown lapUp to 6 cars on the track at once. 1 warmup, 3 hot, 1 cooldown lap.

lukits01,Soul,
Just remember those notes I made are for a 1.6L Front Wheel Drive. Things change a little (or alot :D ) for AWD, RWD and turbos.

[R3N]

There aren't any entry fees. That's why there aren't prizes or their own events etc. The membership is actually a membership for No Limits, not this series.

There is a standard set of limits which are imposed, which have made up the "entry fees".

Paul, Chris, Scott & co have just set up an affordable set of limits for people (and good deals at that) to abide by, get some good competition going, and hopefully entice some more people into motorsport to hopefully get more events.

yea what i meant by the "entry fees" were the tyres+NL membership+NL night, makes sense that if you already have a NL membership you wouldn't need to pay that bit again but was just double checking

[JME]

I'll be competing but won't be till mid year. Can't wait though!

[iluv2moan]

we going to see the lambo rocking 235s?

[JME]

Nope, that car is destined for cafe strips only.

[Fryman]

imagine the supra

on 235s

[FranZ]

I wanna see Paul Cornes on 235 streeties!!!

[chris260]

I wanna see Paul Cornes on 235 streeties!!!

The 235 Nexen N6000 are quite a large tyre!

This is a 235 Nexen N6000 (on the right) up next to a 265
http://i43.tinypic.com/2ed8me0.jpg

[Boza]

do you know much about the G T R ?

[Brockas]

We now have 30 entrants for this series :)

[joshg123]

Chris, i dont understand, what do you been by the nexen 235 is a large tyre?

Its a 235?

[RICEY]

Chris, i dont understand, what do you been by the nexen 235 is a large tyre?

Its a 235?

haha I asked the same question, apparently the nexxen 235 isnt a 235 its wider. Doesnt make sense to me either shrug

[FranZ]

Some tyres are wider than they are marked. For example, a Bridgestone RE55S 235/45/17 tyre actually measures 248mm across the tyre.

If you stack 4 tyres of same brand and model next to 4 tyres of a different brand and model it'll be quite rare that that come out to be the same height.

[RICEY]

So why dont they put the actual width on the tyre instead of being misleading?

[OptiC]

Rims dropped off today, tires on by tomorrow.

Gammmeeee on!

[SSjCosmo]

I do need a new set of tyres.....

[OptiC]

Picked up my tyres from the guys @ Tech9 yesterday will be smashing them on the car this weekend and have a feel for what there going to be like

[OptiC]

Brockas plz move my car to the "Group B" entry list.

Just got a yellow on the way home and it wont be coming off :D

[randomagg]

anyone got the results

[Lonewolf]

results for the first night:
http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results.cgi?26/03/2009.BARB.P1

obviously one of the guys will need to setup a leaderboard, cause thats just the whole no-limits field

[doriae86]

came to watch, loooked like fun. impressed by the type r integras, they seem to do well

[Spektor]

results for the first night:
http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results.cgi?26/03/2009.BARB.P1

obviously one of the guys will need to setup a leaderboard, cause thats just the whole no-limits fieldI'm working on it already!

[EL BURITO]

XR4's time doesn't look too bad.

[Lonewolf]

XR4's time doesn't look too bad.

Ben's a pretty handy driver

[iluv2moan]

was impressed by the s2000s.

[bjohnson]

Cheers!

The XR4 has some more time in it still.
I wasn't running on the Nexens, I was still using my 40,000km old stocker Pirellis.
I think there would be about a half second to gain by switching to the Nexens.

Hopefully by the next event my pads will be bedded in and I will have some fresh tyres and try to get my time down to a high 61.

Looking at those times I don't think the Nexens are too bad!
Seems that they are about 2 seconds a lap slower than rcompunds.
Which is what you would expect switching from street to race rubber.

Big ups to the organisers, the event ran very smoothly and there were plenty of laps especially when you consider that there were almost 60 cars.

[Lonewolf]

dont think i've ever seen jai and the guys work so hard haha, CAMS annoyances never helps either.

hoping to get 4-5 seconds off my times within the next few months, anyone who isnt signed up should do so.

[lukits01]

I'm impressed by the nexens considering their price,
strangely enough, they needed warming up like semis lol compound is quite soft once you get them warm. I kept braking way too early thinking the tires wont hold it.

my only complaint is the sidewalls are so damn soft, have to pump up pressure to like 42-44 to get them to carry cornering speed.

[NoOg_sTaR]

Anyone have pictures from the night? My car was out of action... However I am ready for Aprils round.

Been looking forward to this since it was announced. Shame that the car was on a hoist for the past week.

[k0tter]

I took some photos from the pits.
was also very impressed with how the night ran, after the shambles that was scruitineering was finally over, I got my first lap in at 8pm as an indication of how long they took. (CAMS fault, nothing to do with No Limits)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27451524@N06/sets/72157615876372739/

[Spektor]

Nice photos Marty. What was the problem with CAMS?

[lukits01]

I'm working on it already!

if you have all the laps from the night would be great
I had some instructor laps in there...

[bjohnson]

I have a sheet from Raymond with everyones individual times.
I will scan it and post it up when I'm back at work on Monday.

[Butcher]

Stoked with Vman's time 57.8 not bad for a N/A 4 banga

[Lonewolf]

Stoked with Vman's time 57.8 not bad for a N/A 4 banga

Vito's a top bloke, and that car is pornography to look at and listen to.

[zeroyon]

so out of these -->
Street Series Classes:

• Mitsubishi Evo Class
Brett Stapleton (BAS)
Vaughan Secomb
John Otter


• Subaru WRX Class
Geoff Weir (Qu3xy)
Adam Nielsen


• Nissan GTR Class
Paul Brockbank (Brockas)
Chris Reynolds (Chris260)
Jeff Ash
Kye Bidzinksi (kyebidz)


• AWD other
Rob Hoare (Prototype)
Josh Gardner (josh123)


• RWD over 2400cc
Michael Brewer
Connie Fogliani (Fogr33)
Tom O'Sullivan (SSICK)
Matt Bertocchi (tocchi)
Glen Ashley (EVLTDY)
Paul Cornes (GTS-t VSPEC)


• RWD under 2400cc
Matt Chapman
Brenden Attard (DISTRBD)
Matthew Thompson
Brenton Talbot (Rando)


• FWD
Blake Parry (Lonewolf)
Sena Pratama
Tuyen Nguyen


• B-reg
Marc Roissetter (OptiC)

Who recored times ?

I can see Marc on the list. Also Chris Reynolds was he on the nexens for that time ?

[Lonewolf]

ones I know were there

blake parry (me)
reynolds (yes, he was on nexens)
optic
sena (but need to wait to see if his top time was set by instructor or not)

Others I think weren't on nexens

[k0tter]

Nice photos Marty. What was the problem with CAMS?

They are using new CAMS scruitineers, which took twice as long to go over the cars as the old system, with 50+ cars it took around 2 hours.

[808]

Nice photos Marty. What was the problem with CAMS?

No problems with CAMS Glenn, everyone's just gotta get used to it.They only had one person to scrutineer so that slowed thing up a bit.

My Nexens still have not arrived yet but I still came out on another brand of streeties and had a ball. Third quickest and I'm happy. Nexens look like they are gonna do the job though.

[FranZ]

I have a sheet from Raymond with everyones individual times.
I will scan it and post it up when I'm back at work on Monday.

No need to scan Ben: http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results.cgi?26/03/2009.BARB.P1.I

[Spektor]

I've already updated the No Limits times website. Just waiting on the official entrants list from Chris/Paul and the Street Series leader-board will be done.

Yeah the 50+ cars and one scrutineer would have sucked!

On a side note, I saw a post from Shane that they've done the first batch of CAMS RBT training so staff can be RBTd at an event.

[lukits01]

No need to scan Ben: http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results.cgi?26/03/2009.BARB.P1.I

cheers Franz.
In that case, pretty sure my lap is 1:01.2429

[808]

On a side note, I saw a post from Shane that they've done the first batch of CAMS RBT training so staff can be RBTd at an event.

Where did you see this Glenn?

[Spektor]

Where did you see this Glenn?
Facebook - Western Australian Motor Sports group

[DREvo]

Really looking forward to the April event, will be my first time on Barbs and a good chance to give the Evo a bit of hurt :)

[OptiC]

Do we have an updated points score for the series yet?

I'm interested to see what everyone else is doing time wise on the Nexens!

[280zx racer]

Do we have an updated points score for the series yet?

I'm interested to see what everyone else is doing time wise on the Nexens!
you,re not alone there.:)

[Spektor]

I've received the entrant names. Now working on the leaderboard. Won't be long...

[Tech9tyres]

Update.

Following tyres have finally came through.

225/45/17s

205/45/16s

215/45/17s

Those waiting please call the shop to make a booking to have these tyres fitted.

Regards

Scott
Tech 9 Tyres
9 314 3889

[Tocchi]

i read on the No Limits sight that the prices have been revised, fair enough, usually how many weeks notice (before the event) do we get to sign up for the event?

or are entries already open for april?

[jonn]

I think you can enter for any event at anytime. I booked for the last event nearly 7 weeks in advance.

[Lonewolf]

well the entry forms for the one in 3 weeks arent up yet, so expect mad scramble

[jonn]

Just use an old one and write the new date on it. I don't think No Limits will care if they get the money early. That's what I'm going to do for the event in May.

[Lonewolf]

theres changes to the form due to cams regulations etc i believe

[DISTRBD]

Shitter 31 be in for the next event now i have rubber ...

[808]

Got my Nexen's now. See you all on the 23rd.

[DREvo]

Well that was fun, gave the nexens a real hiding and gained a fair amount of knowledge in the process, I'll be back for the June event to try and crack the sub 60 second barrier thats for sure, was a great atmosphere down there as well with most everyone leaving their ego's at the gate which was refreshing to say the least, a big thanks to the No Limits organisers as well.

Any signs of some kind of leader board??

[Sciflyer]

http://nolimitstimes.comli.com/?page=1

[Lonewolf]

http://nolimitstimes.comli.com/?page=1

think he might have been after a street series one Phil

[Spektor]

There is already a leaderboard for the Street Series

http://www.antilag.com/forums/showthread.php?p=443326

[DREvo]

Yeh might have helped if i had actually opened my eyes hey :( lol

[808]

Had a ball on the Nexens, I was very impressed with them. Would like to see more of you fellas out there though.

[Brockas]

Am getting there.... slowly. Should be there for the next one.

[Tocchi]

first time out since the brake line issue?

that all sorted ? (as in, was the cause of the failure discovered?)

[Brockas]

Yeh first time back, line had come out of its holder and rubbed against the driveshaft until it split.


Will be back with a new setup. Will post up details in the showcase thread when it's done.