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kneedtotinkle
24-12-2008, 10:07 AM
In for 1 day, 2nd gear 3 pound of boost!!!!!
EPIC FAIL!
http://i41.tinypic.com/2qi936o.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/idxir5.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/eg1zfa.jpg
xr06t
24-12-2008, 10:09 AM
surely they have to warrant that..
Fryman
24-12-2008, 10:11 AM
holy crap!!!!
and given the price for that shaft.
RICEY
24-12-2008, 10:11 AM
What HP are they rated to?
Alt_F4
24-12-2008, 10:12 AM
Geez that must of been a let down after waiting all that time :(
I believe this was supposed to be rated to 2000hp or something around there.
EDIT: Correction, 2000ft/lbs of torque
Fryman
24-12-2008, 10:26 AM
that doesnt look like its strong but fibre and such looks like crap when its broken!
how thick are the walls there not even 10mm? you would expect alot more for your cash
Adr3naL1N
24-12-2008, 10:36 AM
fail
mitchy
24-12-2008, 11:02 AM
did it shit itself driving, or on a dyno?
its steel, its real...oh wait :P
honestly im surprised something with a circumference that big broke in such a way :|
kneedtotinkle
24-12-2008, 11:24 AM
it was a change from 4000 rpm 1st to 2nd... basically 2 or 3 pound of boost...
Seriously EPIC FUCKING FAIL!
2000ft/lbs torque
it was a change from 4000 rpm 1st to 2nd... basically 2 or 3 pound of boost...
In for 1 day, third gear 0.8 bar of boost. FAIL!
??
kneedtotinkle
24-12-2008, 11:33 AM
yeah i was wrong in the beginning, i heard differently. Now it seems worse that it actually was 3 pound of boost and 2nd gear, fuck all.
Volatile Rob
24-12-2008, 11:59 AM
Nice work... :)
Bet it sounded like a giant chrismas cracker when it exploded too.
Is that a fibreglass former they have used?
I got some cardboard postal tubes here that I can duct tape together for you to get you going over xmas... should give about the same strength :)
Rob.
kneedtotinkle
24-12-2008, 12:06 PM
we have another shaft which we had made up a month and a bit ago. which is metal...
DISTRBD
24-12-2008, 12:10 PM
yeah i was wrong in the beginning, i heard differently. Now it seems worse that it actually was 3 pound of boost and 2nd gear, fuck all.
Hate to see what could of happened on a hard launch , must of scared the driver when it let go
waxdass
24-12-2008, 12:11 PM
iv been running it for about 2 months now, feels very solid and no problems
They are rated for more torque than your putting out right?
Mayb got a bad batch
either way... warrenty.
kneedtotinkle
24-12-2008, 12:16 PM
ummm we dont have 2000ft/lbs we are at around 700 at the moment...
Seems the weave was put together incorrectly as it goes across the glass incorrectly hence causing it to sheer.
Yeah, Josh was "OH SHIT!" then call came come pick him up with the tow rope, around the corner. Not his fault in anyway, wasnt even hitting snail boost.
kneedtotinkle
24-12-2008, 03:24 PM
http://i43.tinypic.com/j8lf94.jpg
DRKWRX
24-12-2008, 03:44 PM
lol fuck! thats no good, doesnt look too thick in those pics!
gerrin
24-12-2008, 03:59 PM
you want to use the shaft out of the festiva they strong as they handle limter roll backs
waxdass
24-12-2008, 04:07 PM
your shaft looks different to mine??
Different weave and yolk design
http://i35.tinypic.com/24gkmzl.jpg
kneedtotinkle
24-12-2008, 04:10 PM
you want to use the shaft out of the festiva they strong as they handle limter roll backs
hahhaha should of seen the strips left at c red today, about 5 mins ago....
kneedtotinkle
24-12-2008, 04:11 PM
mine was a 2000 ft/lbs one which is different to 1000ft.lbs that some others have received...
iluv2moan
24-12-2008, 04:17 PM
not sure why people run cf tailshafts. quick search on sf.com and u will find that so many people have smashed them whilst dragging so gone back to chromolly
RGVFAST
24-12-2008, 04:26 PM
whats the weight saving of this shaft over say one of the lightest metal shafts on market?
waxdass
24-12-2008, 04:26 PM
i can tell u the difference in drivability is like black and white with mine.
Gear changes are rock solid (wrx has 2-piece shaft), and the rev's fly much quicker on the road.
very happy, its made the car much more zippy
mine weighs at 5.8kg. stock sti shaft was 19 i think
kneedtotinkle
24-12-2008, 04:34 PM
yeah gear changes felt heaps better and revs a little bit better as this wasnt the lightest one due to the rating of power its supposed to be slightly thicker
waxdass
24-12-2008, 04:37 PM
you would have noticed the biggest difference in higher gears, pushing 120+ on the road... takes ALOT shorter to reach 200, i'l tell u that!
kneedtotinkle
24-12-2008, 04:43 PM
ummm yeah....
i rest my case
AGIT8D
24-12-2008, 04:55 PM
Except now it's back to metal? Time for comparisons..
waxdass
24-12-2008, 04:56 PM
driveshaft shop in US make a aluminum one, might be more up your alley.
chin up.
iluv2moan
24-12-2008, 05:15 PM
ally even worse
kneedtotinkle
24-12-2008, 05:24 PM
i'm all good, car fogs hard with lengthened standard shaft... hahaha. I will be sourcing something different, or from a different manufacturer, first i want my money back farkin!
DRKWRX
24-12-2008, 05:31 PM
would carbon shaft make that much difference when your making that much power?
waxdass
24-12-2008, 06:03 PM
^^ probably not
RICEY
24-12-2008, 06:09 PM
Weight wise it does and absorbs more vibration..
kneedtotinkle
24-12-2008, 06:11 PM
the shaft in my car only really felt different in gear changes. Weight wasn't huge difference.
Brockas
24-12-2008, 06:48 PM
you would have noticed the biggest difference in higher gears, pushing 120+ on the road... takes ALOT shorter to reach 200, i'l tell u that!
wait... what?
Alt_F4
24-12-2008, 07:01 PM
would carbon shaft make that much difference when your making that much power?
Same could be said of lightened flywheels and forged wheels... its all adds up.
Was the previous tailshaft chromoly?
iluv2moan
24-12-2008, 07:05 PM
absorbs more vibration..
explain further.
DCIEVE
24-12-2008, 07:12 PM
was thinking the same thing, perhaps you should replace 'absorbs' with 'transmits'
DRKWRX
24-12-2008, 07:26 PM
I know it all adds up, But considering one made defective couldnt even put up with 2nd at couple of pound, how much could a proper one put up with??? What I was implying was maybe its worth it just to use a shaft of a Metal kind rather then Carbon which doesnt look very strong.
DCIEVE
24-12-2008, 07:45 PM
uts for carbon fibre is considerably higher than steel... obviously the manufacturer messed up the weave on this one.
waxdass
24-12-2008, 07:45 PM
wait... what?
what
RICEY
24-12-2008, 07:52 PM
explain further.
One characteristic of carbon fibre prop shafts is vibration dampening, was told that when working at Nissan on 350zs, another advantage is reduction of rotating mass and as a result more response when u hit the go pedal, much like a lightened flywheel as mentioned.
Brockas
24-12-2008, 09:37 PM
what
I'm curious as to how a carbon driveshaft makes such a large difference in accelleration between 120km/h and 200km/h.
Really, it should make bugger all difference at those speeds, as the driveshaft is already under torque, and the lighter weight isn't going to make a massive difference as it's already spinning quite fast.
DISTRBD
24-12-2008, 10:06 PM
Final Drive are only fukrs i trust for my shafts n axles ,copped more abuse then a 5yr old kid at MJs Neverland range
DISTRBD
24-12-2008, 10:08 PM
One characteristic of carbon fibre prop shafts is vibration dampening, was told that when working at Nissan on 350zs, another advantage is reduction of rotating mass and as a result more response when u hit the go pedal, much like a lightened flywheel as mentioned.
LOL responsive as it isnt turning diff :D
AGIT8D
24-12-2008, 11:12 PM
Final Drive are only fukrs i trust for my shafts n axles ,copped more abuse then a 5yr old kid at MJs Neverland range
+1 Phil's a fkn champion, knows his shit
waxdass
24-12-2008, 11:34 PM
I'm curious as to how a carbon driveshaft makes such a large difference in accelleration between 120km/h and 200km/h.
Really, it should make bugger all difference at those speeds, as the driveshaft is already under torque, and the lighter weight isn't going to make a massive difference as it's already spinning quite fast.
less rotational mass.
5th and 6th gear, revs fly past much quicker - hence reaching those types of speeds quicker.
Its made a big enough difference for me, in my car.
Brockas
24-12-2008, 11:44 PM
Alright... I'll take your word on it.
Out of curiosity what kind of power is your car putting out?
I'm guessing I wouldn't feel any difference in my car at those speeds, if I would it would be a decent investment.
waxdass
24-12-2008, 11:50 PM
its not tuned yet.
expecting somewhere between 210 & 220kw at all 4.
Its hard to explain the way the car behaves with it, as said before the most noticable difference is rock solid shifting, I can only think to explain this as the stock 2 piece shaft had to be flexing everytime I changed gear.
5th and 6th fly quicker than the lower gears obviously - but with the shaft it takes the engine alot less effort it seems.
kneedtotinkle
25-12-2008, 06:04 AM
UPDATE:
Rang Managing Director of ACPT.
I am getting refund, and free new 2000ft/lbs shaft. He admitted that there is no way in the world that it should have been sent out. Apparently it is not even half the amount of necessary carbon wrapping on the shaft, hence why it exploded.
GAME ON!
FREE SHAFT!
MERRY FARKIN CHRISTMAS TO ME!
kneedtotinkle
25-12-2008, 06:07 AM
email
As we discussed on the telephone, this shaft was not built with the correct tubing. The diameter should have been 9.6 cm (3.8 inches).
We have built hundreds of shafts for Skylines and usually don’t have any problem. I hope your customer is happier with a refund and a new shaft on it’s way. I’ll monitor the build from this end. Please let me know how it works. James should get a shipping date to you, but it will be after the New Year’s Holiday due to the balance shop being closed.
I apologize for the problems you have had with our company.
I hope you are having a great Christmas!!
Jim
Frenchy
25-12-2008, 06:15 AM
Customer service right there!!
Nice work
BOSS 290
25-12-2008, 06:38 AM
What HP are they rated to?
16hp, Briggs and Stratton V Twin power rated :lol:
Seriously, wtf would you put your faith in something like that?
BOSS 290
25-12-2008, 06:42 AM
you would have noticed the biggest difference in higher gears, pushing 120+ on the road... takes ALOT shorter to reach 200, i'l tell u that!
Horsepower will overcome that too!
RICEY
25-12-2008, 07:27 AM
LOL responsive as it isnt turning diff :D
Huh? If you think a reduction in rotating mass makes no difference when its attached to the diff you have some research to do...
iluv2moan
25-12-2008, 09:15 AM
UPDATE:
Rang Managing Director of ACPT.
I am getting refund, and free new 2000ft/lbs shaft. He admitted that there is no way in the world that it should have been sent out. Apparently it is not even half the amount of necessary carbon wrapping on the shaft, hence why it exploded.
GAME ON!
FREE SHAFT!
MERRY FARKIN CHRISTMAS TO ME!
sounds good - perhaps u might need to change thread title now??
shibby
25-12-2008, 09:28 AM
LOL, dont buy one
Get one for freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
thats killer money back and a free shaft! cant go wrong
magic1
25-12-2008, 10:08 AM
change thread title now?
kneedtotinkle
25-12-2008, 10:14 AM
i did, but it keeps changing to just acpt carbon tailshaft...
RICEY
25-12-2008, 10:15 AM
I edited out the do not buy bit...
DCIEVE
25-12-2008, 05:43 PM
Huh? If you think a reduction in rotating mass makes no difference when its attached to the diff you have some research to do...
I think bart was just taking the piss there!
RGVFAST
25-12-2008, 05:56 PM
if only other companies were as generous
mr_mike
25-12-2008, 07:22 PM
Whats a tailshaft like that worth nat?
Dont need to answer if u dont wanna, just curious how much the company is willing to loose out on just to stop any bad rumours bein spread.
kneedtotinkle
25-12-2008, 07:48 PM
Well Trust/Greddy sells it for $7kAUD and made by ACPT...
I purchased on a group buy so it was alot cheaper
mitchy
25-12-2008, 07:52 PM
yours wasn't bought from trust/greddy though, and i'm pretty sure was a fair bit cheaper than 7k.
DISTRBD
25-12-2008, 09:35 PM
I think bart was just taking the piss there!
;)
Alt_F4
26-12-2008, 06:30 PM
UPDATE:
Rang Managing Director of ACPT.
I am getting refund, and free new 2000ft/lbs shaft. He admitted that there is no way in the world that it should have been sent out. Apparently it is not even half the amount of necessary carbon wrapping on the shaft, hence why it exploded.
GAME ON!
FREE SHAFT!
MERRY FARKIN CHRISTMAS TO ME!
Good to see they took responsibility when it counted, allows them to save face (on the strength of the product).
Are you getting refunded at the US buy price? If so you just made money on this deal + shaft ;)
kneedtotinkle
26-12-2008, 07:29 PM
I got refunded $1420USD so as it stands at this very moment, i made $500 and got a free shaft. $500 coin free and free shaft well worth the 1 hour breakage...
DRKWRX
26-12-2008, 07:34 PM
good service prety much encouraging people to try and break there shafts lol
mitchy
26-12-2008, 07:56 PM
Well Trust/Greddy sells it for $7kAUD and made by ACPT...
I got refunded $1420USD so as it stands at this very moment, i made $500 and got a free shaft. $500 coin free and free shaft well worth the 1 hour breakage...
ah me shaft, she's worth $7k.
kneedtotinkle
26-12-2008, 08:11 PM
well actually it is... If i was to have bought it from Greddy before doing some homework i would have paid $7k! Greddy shafts arent even badged, they say ACPT.
mitchy
26-12-2008, 08:18 PM
and an R35 GTR is worth over $100k... but that's not what you have.
you have an ACPT shaft you bought from a group buy on SAU for AU$1400.
it's not a trust/greddy shaft, ACPT just happen to be the people who do make shafts for trust/greddy.
it doesn't impress anyone to say you have a trust/greddy shaft when you dont, either.
mr_mike
26-12-2008, 08:31 PM
http://media.funlol.com/content/img/mcowned.jpg
iluv2moan
26-12-2008, 08:35 PM
hey mitchy, might just be a bit of a misunderstanding. its actually a titan drivesaft since actp make them for titan. they not as greedy as the japs cause titan only sell them for 1800 usd
Slip_
26-12-2008, 08:35 PM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/Slip_87SX/clapqy9.gif
kneedtotinkle
26-12-2008, 09:08 PM
and an R35 GTR is worth over $100k... but that's not what you have.
you have an ACPT shaft you bought from a group buy on SAU for AU$1400.
it's not a trust/greddy shaft, ACPT just happen to be the people who do make shafts for trust/greddy.
it doesn't impress anyone to say you have a trust/greddy shaft when you dont, either.
you seem to be affected by it... whether i chose to buy it from greddy or ACPT makes no difference it is exactly the same item. Whether you harp on figures or not its still something which a majority of cars dont have or think about using as most people will upgrade other areas as they dont fathom spending coin on tailshafts and the like.
An R35 GT-R... hmmm, $100k dont have one? Do you know me? Do you 'think' you know me? I think not, enjoy your wagon and stop jumping on your keyboard thinking you are showing someone up.
kneedtotinkle
26-12-2008, 09:13 PM
secondly, i never said i had a Trust/greddy shaft as the title never suggested it. I was asked what a tailshaft like that is worth and if i am correct from greenlines prices it is $7k AUD as it is exactly the same as the trust/greddy design by ACPT who is their supplier...
further confiriming this i stated that i was reimbursed x amount of dollars, i never said i was reimbursed $7k or anything to that extent to mispresent a trust /greddy shaft...
Nice one.
DRKWRX
26-12-2008, 09:18 PM
antilag.com always give me a good laugh lol.
kneedtotinkle
26-12-2008, 09:21 PM
corrected
antilag.com where keyboard clowns give me a good laugh lol.
mitchy
26-12-2008, 09:41 PM
fucking lol.
why the fuck is trust/greddy/$7000 even mentioned in this thread then?
i'd personally think you're a fucking looper if you paid $7k for a carbon shaft...
i think the real "shaft" in question is the one you're smoking....
See Red
26-12-2008, 09:51 PM
fucking lol.
why the fuck is trust/greddy/$7000 even mentioned in this thread then?
i'd personally think you're a fucking looper if you paid $7k for a carbon shaft...
i think the real "shaft" in question is the one you're smoking....
Why do you say such hateful things "mitchy" ?
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 09:07 AM
Fuck! Do you read numbnuts? Mr Mike asked "what would a shaft like that cost nat?"
It WOULD cost $7k AUD from Trust moron!
But as stated i was open as to how much i paid... otherwise i could of said $7kAUD but i didnt.
Personally think i am a looper if i paid $7K AUD for a carbon shaft, well that just shows you dont understand the worth of things when modifying cars. As stated before some parts are not understandable by some as they either cant afford it and think "why?" or dont understand what its usage is for...
back in your box!
Sick of these fuckin tryhard keyboard warrior muppets!
cplagz
27-12-2008, 09:26 AM
lulz ... good to see problem sorted nate ... 7k Greddy carbon shaft or 12k for Gemballa porsche exhaust. They charge it because they can.
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 09:28 AM
true marc!
Brett_J
27-12-2008, 09:34 AM
This is why this forum needs more moderation
Bought shitty made shaft, showed it in thread, money was refunded and new shaft is on way, fucking end thread.
Regrdless of if you think 7k is a stupid price or you think its justified spending money on your car, be the bigger man and shut up.
WRCjosh
27-12-2008, 09:35 AM
fuck it i was going to shutup but nah, mitchy your 100% right, the only one who looks like a keyboard muppet here is you nathan sorry man your WAY out of line
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 09:40 AM
swear to god pingpingpingpings on this forum are just getting more and more pathetic. To argue about a carbon shaft, its value, where it came from, to think i misrepresented it when its stated in the fucking thread title is just stupid. A whole heap of people on this site are two face pingpingpingpings, nice to your face then stab you in the back, OR tryhard whippets who think they are tough but when see you face to face suck your cock!
Tired of this lame shit.
End rant/
WRCjosh
27-12-2008, 09:41 AM
why keep coming back then?
swear to god pingpingpingpings on this forum are just getting more and more pathetic. To argue about a carbon shaft, its value, where it came from, to think i misrepresented it when its stated in the fucking thread title is just stupid. A whole heap of people on this site are two face pingpingpingpings, nice to your face then stab you in the back, OR tryhard whippets who think they are tough but when see you face to face suck your cock!
Tired of this lame shit.
End rant/
dude someone asked how much the shaft was and you told them 7k when its not worth 7k at all. You paid 1400 bucks or whatever so why not say it costs $1400? No one cares whats it worth we just wanted to know how much you paid for it.
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 09:43 AM
no shit, just thought of that. Coz i wanna be in your fan club...
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 09:44 AM
dude someone asked how much the shaft was and you told them 7k when its not worth 7k at all. You paid 1400 bucks or whatever so why not say it costs $1400? No one cares whats it worth we just wanted to know how much you paid for it.
read the post back in the pages, person asked what is a shaft like that worth...
Retail = $7,000AUD
WRCjosh
27-12-2008, 09:46 AM
7k for a GREDDY shaft, not a ACPT one... do you have a greddy shaft???
dude seriously! its like me telling some pingpingpingping a vn commodore is worth 20k cause thats what it was retail.
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 09:48 AM
My shaft is the EXACT same as Greddy as Greddy is manufactured by ACPT! Hence the retail for this shaft is $7k. Yet even when i state i paid x amount people think i say i paid $7k when i stated otherwise!
WRCjosh
27-12-2008, 09:49 AM
for a smart bloke, you really have missed the boat
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 09:50 AM
dude seriously! its like me telling some pingpingpingping a vn commodore is worth 20k cause thats what it was retail.
hahahaha, no its not. If i was to buy the exact same good from the manufacturer instead of the retailer it would still be worth the same amount, but doesnt necessarily mean i paid the retail price. So in fact retail as described is $7k but i got it at wholesale which was x amount. Do you not understand?
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 09:51 AM
The question of how much was the shaft is on a genuine assumption that "you" as none involved in the group buy would HAVE to pay full retail price which is $7k. So the price given to a consumer not involved in a group buy is wait for it... the FUCKIN RETAIL PRICE!
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 09:52 AM
Greddy shafts are NOT badged either, they actually say ACPT.
WRCjosh
27-12-2008, 09:53 AM
so if i called acpt and asked for a shaft theyd quote me 7k?
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 09:57 AM
If you called ACPT they would tell you to fuck off. They dont deal with the public and now there is no Aus distributor... So you cant buy shit anymore... If you want to play ring around the rosie josh i will go the rounds. Asked what it would cost = retail price. If i wanted to have misled people i could have said $7k but i didnt did I...
RICEY
27-12-2008, 09:57 AM
Whats a tailshaft like that worth nat?
Dont need to answer if u dont wanna, just curious how much the company is willing to loose out on just to stop any bad rumours bein spread.
Well Trust/Greddy sells it for $7kAUD and made by ACPT...
I purchased on a group buy so it was alot cheaper
End of arguement.
nah you did. you paid $1400 not $7000
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 09:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_mike
Whats a tailshaft like that worth nat?
Dont need to answer if u dont wanna, just curious how much the company is willing to loose out on just to stop any bad rumours bein spread.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Miami Vice
Well Trust/Greddy sells it for $7kAUD and made by ACPT...
I purchased on a group buy so it was alot cheaper
End of arguement.
Thank fucking GOD ricey sees what the fuck i am talking about.
Now does anyone have any other questions?
mitchy
27-12-2008, 10:00 AM
End of arguement.
that second post was edited by 4SLIDE, the original post mentioned nothing about a group buy.
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 10:02 AM
it was stated a long time ago the above that Ricey has provided... group buy has nothing to do with the price when i have already stated that i didnt pay $7k or Greddy prices...
RICEY
27-12-2008, 10:03 AM
Thats correct it was edited, didnt notice that but that being said Nathan has stated that he did indeed pay a lot less that the alleged retail price so whats the point of continuing the arguement?
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 10:04 AM
correct.
DISTRBD
27-12-2008, 10:07 AM
$1400 if in the group buy or 7k retail .. Any others failed ?
Alt_F4
27-12-2008, 10:09 AM
$1400 if in the group buy or 7k retail .. Any others failed ?
Mr. Keets is still waiting on his last time I checked.
Think this was the first one tested.
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 10:12 AM
Alot of them are currently being checked on the thickness of carbon and a few of them have been incorrect in length. We had to machine the back plate for the diff to fit was out by 3mm.
Brockas
27-12-2008, 10:13 AM
I have a Garrett T04Z.
HKS sell a turbo like mine for 6k.
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 10:14 AM
Because HKS change the front cover design... not with my shaft it is EXACTLY the same, not even badged.
Alt_F4
27-12-2008, 10:20 AM
I know a genuine Panamaphonics when I see one
Fryman
27-12-2008, 10:22 AM
jesus
RGVFAST
27-12-2008, 10:26 AM
why would greddy think the consumer is so stupid to pay 3-4 thousand dollars more for a shaft that is exactly the same, and not even badged by greddy?
there would have to be some changes to the shaft or something that makes it different. Otherwise greddy would'nt sell any.
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 10:27 AM
I am telling you that there is absolutely not 1 thing different on the shaft design, badging, nothing.
have a look on greenline on GTR products and the pic will even tell you...
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 10:28 AM
ACPT is a aero space carbon company therefore the only reason i can see is that they wish the consumer to know how well constructed 'their' products are.
RGVFAST
27-12-2008, 10:30 AM
visually it might look the same, but greddy would be only hurting themselves to demand such a premium on an identical shaft, i could understand a few hundred bucks on top or even a thousand and a flash looking trust sticker
but the huge price hike for an identical product wouldnt sell
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 10:34 AM
people cant buy it from anywhere for gtr except greddy...
RGVFAST
27-12-2008, 10:35 AM
fair call
price make sense then
Philthy
27-12-2008, 10:46 AM
less rotational mass.
5th and 6th gear, revs fly past much quicker - hence reaching those types of speeds quicker.
Its made a big enough difference for me, in my car.
You have got to be joking? Are you saying a decrease of rotational mass of 15kg is going to have a noticable affect on a 1400kg car?
When you think about the rotational mass of the entire drive train, axles etc, i wouldnt know but id assume the whole drive train is much heavier.
I think the crack pipe is burning your lips.
Or could it be because a carbon drive shaft allows you to do 400 in 2nd with the same gear and diff ratios?
how much something is worth and how much someone paid for that said thing, not same same
Philthy
27-12-2008, 11:14 AM
how much something is worth and how much someone paid for that said thing, not same same
its worth what someone is willing to pay for it.
varrjj_
27-12-2008, 11:23 AM
Wow. What the fuck just happened?
Lonewolf
27-12-2008, 11:34 AM
thread needs more (carbon) dragons
heres some i prepared earlier
http://www.tnpsc.com/downloads/Dragons.jpg
cplagz
27-12-2008, 11:50 AM
From what I can gather, Nate paid $1420 USD for the shaft ... therefore it's more realistically like $2000 + S&H which would be a few hunj for air freight.
Greenline quote RRP of the shaft at 7k, I'm sure if you rang around you could probably find it cheaper.
Go and get a price on a Porsche blow off valve, and then get a price for a Bosch 110 Sport valve .... exactly the same piece of kit, totally different prices.
I got quote from BMW for parts - $550 odd .... exact same stuff cost me $200 delivered from USA.
Cut the middle men out, save the dollars.
I'm sure by the time Greenline sell the shaft theres more middlemen in there then Rhys could handle!
This is why teh internets can be totally misconstrued. I can see both sides of this and why they are "arguing" their points.
So lets settle this......
ACPT Carbon shaft = Greddy shaft
Nate paid $xxxx USD (at whatever exchange rate) in a group buy organised direct with the manufacturer (much cheaper, but not likely to occur again)
Someone asked what the shaft is worth .... To be able to buy another one, you're looking at around the 7k AUD mark (substantiated by pricelist on Greenline).
Simple? Pull ya heads from your anus' and stop shitting in threads for the sake of it.
shibby
27-12-2008, 11:53 AM
hoooray Xmas is saved!!!
RGVFAST
27-12-2008, 11:59 AM
internet is all about shitting in other threads
the dude aint selling anything
so no one is worse off
DISTRBD
27-12-2008, 12:02 PM
Alot of them are currently being checked on the thickness of carbon and a few of them have been incorrect in length. We had to machine the back plate for the diff to fit was out by 3mm.
Did they tell you to machine back plate when you rang n explained it was 3mm out ??
ACPT is a aero space carbon company therefore the only reason i can see is that they wish the consumer to know how well constructed 'their' products are.
FAILED
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 12:17 PM
[QUOTE=DISTRBD;389907]Did they tell you to machine back plate when you rang n explained it was 3mm out ??
yep, they were a little stunned that they got the measurement out of whack as well as the incorrect amount of carbon wraps.
DISTRBD
27-12-2008, 12:28 PM
They were stunned that it was LONG yet they let you go ahead n fit it ..
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 12:32 PM
wasnt short, was long by 3mm...
waxdass
27-12-2008, 02:10 PM
You have got to be joking? Are you saying a decrease of rotational mass of 15kg is going to have a noticable affect on a 1400kg car?
When you think about the rotational mass of the entire drive train, axles etc, i wouldnt know but id assume the whole drive train is much heavier.
I think the crack pipe is burning your lips.
Or could it be because a carbon drive shaft allows you to do 400 in 2nd with the same gear and diff ratios?
Thats correct.
I noticed the higher gears rev out faster than before.
Im not talking stupid fast, but the difference is noticeable to me.
This is almost a back to back comparison.
In your case, since you didnt own my car b4, and dont own it now - you cant talk shit. No crack pipe here, but i'l let u rack up off my cock if ur nice :)
mr_mike
27-12-2008, 02:23 PM
Just to clear up summin when i asked nat what "its worth" what i should of said was "how much did you pay". Hence why i added in dont have to answer if u dont wanna.
If u did pay $7k and they were willing to refund u that and give u a new shaft is pretty impressive and alot of kesh to protect a companys reputation. Having said that you didnt pay that much, end of the day its still extremely good of the company to deal with the issue the way they have.
Denver
27-12-2008, 04:08 PM
people cant buy it from anywhere for gtr except greddy...
Evidentally you can, given you guys got one in a group buy, so there must be a channel of purchase for the public...
as for there being lots of middlemen in purchasing one from greenline, there isn't, jason deals direct with HKS, greddy jun etc, so theres only the company selling the goods and him, and he charges very little in the way of markup..
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 04:38 PM
ah denver no there isn't. The australian distributor has given up due to all the crap apparent in the whole group buy deal. The deal was cheap for over a certain amount of purchases through the australian distributor only!
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 04:42 PM
greenline deals with japanese manufacturers such as greddy Hks apexi etc not acpt. Maybe greddy charges not as much to greenline which is common business as it would supplying at wholesale which all do to shops and internet sellers.
mitchy
27-12-2008, 04:44 PM
ah denver no there isn't. The australian distributor has given up due to all the crap apparent in the whole group buy deal. The deal was cheap for over a certain amount of purchases through the australian distributor only!
the deal was originally organised DIRECT to ACPT, it was when someone got the aussie distributor involved that it all went pear shaped.
perhaps you can just link them to the thread on SAU? (and notify them of your multiple username changes too...)
the deal was originally organised DIRECT to ACPT, it was when someone got the aussie distributor involved that it all went pear shaped.
perhaps you can just link them to the thread on SAU? (and notify them of your multiple username changes too...)
Perhaps you could just link us to save us the hassle ?
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 04:49 PM
that's not my account, nice try retard. You talk a lot of crap thinking you know shit when you have nothing but your hole... Muppet.
look forward to meeting you on next cruise mate.
mitchy
27-12-2008, 04:54 PM
i never mentioned any account, how come you are so quick to make out it's not yours?
http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/group-Buy-Acpt-Carbon-t208678.html
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 04:57 PM
because obviously someone acted on my behalf to purchase the shaft which would have to be someone in the thread, Fuck you truly are a moron.
Ok so what i've gathered from the SAU thread.
Some dude has organised a Group Buy with ACPT. People on Boost Cruising have also done a group buy before direct from ACPT.
-> http://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=296765
Also other people on SAU have talked about buying direct from ACPT as well.
So pretty much the statement about you being fully sick and buying from ACPT and the rest of us plebs have to buy from trust/greenline at an inflated price is completely false.
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 05:00 PM
In all honesty how do you expect someone to order it without communicating to verify facts etc lol. Person acts on my behalf, how is there a problem??? There is none.
DRKWRX
27-12-2008, 05:01 PM
I dunno how people cant understand this, Sounds like that company makes carbon fibre parts of all kinds, they make parts for Greddy, hks etc its upto them then how much they wanna slap on the price, if they think the part is made well enough for them to put there name on.
mitchy
27-12-2008, 05:01 PM
so does this 'someone' control you're money then as well?
because they mentioned they would wire the money direct from a bank account.
fuck i wish i had minions to post for me, and control my money.
DISTRBD
27-12-2008, 05:03 PM
Shit product plan n simple
To long so was modified to fit and once fitted it turned into shit .. case closed ..
WRCjosh
27-12-2008, 05:06 PM
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c44/WRCjosh/CHINA-W1.gif
AndrZeJ
27-12-2008, 05:49 PM
holy shit i was gonna go get one of those, assuming ur conditions of failure are correct, thats bullshit, get onto em
im gonna go for the Titan Motorsports Big Boy carbon shaft, beefier everything
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 06:04 PM
so does this 'someone' control you're money then as well?
because they mentioned they would wire the money direct from a bank account.
fuck i wish i had minions to post for me, and control my money.
no, but when they tell me that they can get something they know i want for a cheaper price, all i ask is how much and when do you need the money. There is obviously a certain amount of trust between me and the user that he knows i will pay.
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 06:10 PM
Ok so what i've gathered from the SAU thread.
Some dude has organised a Group Buy with ACPT. People on Boost Cruising have also done a group buy before direct from ACPT.
-> http://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=296765
Also other people on SAU have talked about buying direct from ACPT as well.
So pretty much the statement about you being fully sick and buying from ACPT and the rest of us plebs have to buy from trust/greenline at an inflated price is completely false.
I was told it was through the Aussie distributor Street to strip. The reason it went through the distributor is because as you more than likely know, there is no reason for a distributor if you sell to the public at wholesale prices, so hence the distributor was involved... Thats what i was told.
CyberNetiC
27-12-2008, 06:32 PM
this thread is full of awesomeness.
i heart this place.
DJ84WA
27-12-2008, 07:03 PM
whens the new shaft expected to arrive?
hopefully they wont wait too long before posting your replacement.
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 07:13 PM
end of january
Brockas
27-12-2008, 07:35 PM
You talk a lot of crap thinking you know shit when you have nothing but your hole...
HAHAHAHA NOTHIN BUT YO OLE!
Brockas
27-12-2008, 08:33 PM
I spent 7k on shafts for pingpingpingpings, for one slut to go off at me for not buying her one.
Ruined my whole night!
Philthy
27-12-2008, 09:46 PM
I spent 7k on shafts for pingpingpingpings, for one slut to go off at me for not buying her one.
Ruined my whole night!
LOL
yeah its bombed man, car now does 120 in 2nd used to only do 100, same limiter amazing the difference a clean motor does. revs faster in higher gears too.
kneedtotinkle
27-12-2008, 10:15 PM
ROFL
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