View Full Version : F1 bye bye points scoring champion
Jazza
15-12-2008, 02:33 PM
http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews/2008/12/8775.html
As far as I am aware this is a great idea and I have voted positively for it on the site! Will encourage drivers to always go for the win rather than settle for point as mentioned in the article which will make racing much more exciting!
Brockas
15-12-2008, 02:39 PM
I'm all for it.
Think it will make the racing a lot more competitive.
It is the most fucking retarded idea in the history of the sport.
A champion is decided across a season, due to various factors, and yes at times, going for the win isnt needed.
Imagine someone wins 7 races, but dnf's the other 11, while someone wins 6, and gets 5 other podiums.
What a joke.
Brockas
15-12-2008, 02:44 PM
Imagine someone wins 7 races, but dnf's the other 11, while someone wins 6, and gets 5 other podiums.
I know which one is far more interesting to watch.
11 dnf's sounds pretty boring to me!
Brockas
15-12-2008, 02:50 PM
Since when?
Trying to hard to pass -> Contact -> Crash -> DNF
Far more interesting than "follow the leader".
Jazza
15-12-2008, 02:51 PM
It's about every race.. yes the current system awards the most consistent driver which is GOOD but every driver going for a win every race is going to be more exciting to watch.. In fairness more will start to drive like Hamilton drives alot, aggressively!
Not that.. oh turn down the engine and settle for 2nd place because there's not much difference shit.
No screw the engine and screw bein conservative, we want to see over taking and people pushing as hard as they can all the time, this encourages that.. :)
redline07
15-12-2008, 02:58 PM
Only thing I worry about is that it seems that it is the casual viewer that they are trying to appease. Just seems like it 'cheapens' the championship somewhat. Sure it might make the racing itself more exciting to watch, but how often do you see the first few drivers bunched up near the end and in a position to fight? Most drivers if they are in a position to do so, would try for a win in the last few laps anyway. Should be an interesting year to watch anyway, with KERS, a new points system and a few team/driver changes.
Yes but Jazza how does that work with the new "engine must last 3 races" rule?
Overtaking hasnt gone to shit because of that anyhow, it was to do with the ridiculous aero packages the rules allowed.
No point forcing them to race if you cant get close enough to pass.
Paul if it happens like that then yeah it can be fun, but not if you wipe out the top cars every race, not keen to watch a Red bull scrap with Toyota over a fake first.
[FFOUR]
15-12-2008, 03:01 PM
Problem is most driver/car combos in the field can't win anyway, regardless of how much they want too.
I say stick with the points system but just have more than a 2pt gap between winning and 2nd place (i.e. like they did before changing it to stop Schumi).
addicted.to.speed
15-12-2008, 03:03 PM
Thought it sounded good.,. but then I though about it
It doesnt really eliminate the problem... it will probably make the tail end of the season quite boring...
Eg. someone has enough gold medals to win the drivers championship with 4 rounds to go... whats the point of the last four round?
At least with the points system there is more chance of a range of outcomes.. with all the different points calculations etc...
addicted.to.speed
15-12-2008, 03:06 PM
Chance of it coming down to last round with medal system = highly unlikely
chance of it coming down to last round with points system = much higher
Jazza
15-12-2008, 03:06 PM
Yeh that'd work making a bigger gap, but this will still encourage going all out more than anything else and there's nothing more pleasing to watch. I've seen so many races that when the third stint comes around the place is basically sorted out.. that's just boring!
Blowing up engines, crashing etc is more entertaining than that plus it rewards drivers to take more chances and push harder. I enjoy incidences in the races, when your constantly getting exicted or pissed off.. thats good lol
I don't believe this will actually happen either, I just think it would be good to see!
Yup, just give the winner 12 points.
Its going to seriously suck ass when only 6-8 drivers have anything to show for their efforts.
It could be good... But I think it will fail miserably. The easiest way to make people go for the win is offer more points for 1st, 2nd and 3rd, yet still retain points for the lower standings. This lets the lower teams still score points, with 3 medals no one would know where they stand.
redline07
15-12-2008, 03:11 PM
Haha exactly, who other than Ferrari/McLaren/BMW will regularly have a realistic chance of getting any medals. Other thing that they have done is keep the points for the manufacturers championship and while I understand why, will just serve to create more confusion.
It could be good... But I think it will fail miserably. The easiest way to make people go for the win is offer more points for 1st, 2nd and 3rd, yet still retain points for the lower standings. This lets the lower teams still score points, with 3 medals no one would know where they stand.
Agreed - make the podium worth more, while allowing the smaller teams to acheive something of their own.
DISTRBD
15-12-2008, 03:55 PM
Boring as shit to watch ' cars a re going round n fucking round " .. Destruction derby spec last car standing wins :lol:
Phil24
15-12-2008, 04:03 PM
Why not: 1 point for each lap lead, similar to that of NASCAR. First 10 score points being 1 (10th), 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12, 15 (1st).
iluv2moan
15-12-2008, 06:02 PM
just read new point score idea - not a fan
submitted against it.
one minute they trying to make it safer - reducing speeds by banning full slicks etc etc, not they trying to make it more dangerous, brough back full slicks, eliminated traction control and creatign a point system which encourages people to push harder and atempt overtaking moves they wouldnt normally do all because thats how t`hey have to win titles
who cops the bill when some1 foolishly dives up the insed of some1 and takes out the other car all because its do or die in respect to their championship hopes
surely the teams musnt support this new idea.
BE only thinking about himself and the money he makes from the sport. f1 isnt the sport it used to be many years ago. its obvious he loosing viewers across the world hense making up all these new ideas. (promising a more exciting spectacle, having night races under lights etc)
Traction control was never about safety dude. It was alleged a couple of teams were using it, but it couldnt be proven, so they let everyone use it. Nothing to hide when its all good to use it.
As early as 94 Benneton aka Renault had it on their cars, but they claimed they didnt use it... yeah right.
Jazza
15-12-2008, 09:06 PM
just read new point score idea - not a fan
submitted against it.
one minute they trying to make it safer - reducing speeds by banning full slicks etc etc, not they trying to make it more dangerous, brough back full slicks, eliminated traction control and creatign a point system which encourages people to push harder and atempt overtaking moves they wouldnt normally do all because thats how t`hey have to win titles
who cops the bill when some1 foolishly dives up the insed of some1 and takes out the other car all because its do or die in respect to their championship hopes
surely the teams musnt support this new idea.
BE only thinking about himself and the money he makes from the sport. f1 isnt the sport it used to be many years ago. its obvious he loosing viewers across the world hense making up all these new ideas. (promising a more exciting spectacle, having night races under lights etc)
You need to do some research before you post mate, if you had any clue you'd have a look at all the cost cutting that has been going on in F1 to date and realise that's not what this is about. No offense intended.
mitchy
15-12-2008, 09:11 PM
Boring as shit to watch ' cars a re going round n fucking round " .. Destruction derby spec last car standing wins :lol:
+1 :P
slighty O/T but does this mean they're going to do the same in WRC? by theory, they will.
does anyone else here think bernie eccelston is the most pissed-off and typical "old man" on earth? he's always dissatisfied with something in F1; i don't think i've ever seen him smile or something positive about a race/season. seriously needs to be giving the boot.
WRC is going to the new rules next year, no turbos. Absolutely fucking gay.
1JZVL
15-12-2008, 10:26 PM
WRC is going to the new rules next year, no turbos. Absolutely fucking gay.
?????
Oh really?
but why, and just out of curiosity how much power are they limited/going to make
:confused:
oh well, MOTO GP FTW :group:
Boring as shit to watch ' cars a re going round n fucking round " .. Destruction derby spec last car standing wins :lol:
For sure, random spike strips and opposing teams get bonus points and then can cash them in by road raging the driver in a pit stop. Cause something needs to be done i guess , its boring as shit.
I dont know what the real answer is, all i do know is this. F1 is the pinnacle. Hence they should have massive HP cars new engines every session, unobtanium plated wheels, and $100 euro notes in the wings for ballast / downforce.
Bernie Ecclestone and Max Moseley, need to be fucking shot. They arent in F1 for F1 ... they are in it for the money. Gold digging parasites.
And on that note, ballast loading needs to be in F1 like JGTC or simmilar GT class racing. Win a race, here is 20kg. Difficult to store on a F1 for sure, but thats the only way to make it more competitve. Having said that, Bernie does have a point ... these new F1 drivers are pussies who lack the balls of the Mansell, Shumi (young), Prost, Senna etc era. Happy to settle ....
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