WTB. cheap Stand Alone ECU

[mr2seb]

Hey guys i am chasing a cheap wire in ecu that i can put onto a Holden rodeo 2.6 tray back ute i am doing as a project.

I Have just dropped a tdo4-e turbo on a custom manifold that i made and full 2.5" exhaust.

I was told a hks fcon pro would do it but after buying one am told that i can't wire it in as no reference points/ trigger points.

So i have to sell a hks f.con pro with evo wiring look and buy a stand alone ecu.

Please help. then i can have my ute on the road.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.
Pretty Please.
i know someone will have one. in the name of power and sideways funs.

[Lump]

might be easier/cheaper to use the stock ecu & emanage blue piggyback

[mr2seb]

Yeah well thats what i thought, and i was told that the hks fcon pro would work cos that is fuel and ignition computor that is completely tunable to whatever. if i could get the diagrams to wire that in it would be great. but took it to apc and they said they couldn't do it. what is the difference between the emanage and the fcon pro. they both piggy backs. to why would one work and the other one not.

[Lump]

ive used a emanage in my old evo 6. with a tune & a few more psi (it removed factory boost cut) i picked up 45hp atw.
quite a few places around town can tune them as well.

i was under the impression the only place in perth that can tune fcon was xspeed.
xspeeds web site has manuals/diagrams, maybe for your fcon?

[Skitzo]

You can purchase my standalone ecu. RRP is $1900 yours for $1200.

8 Smart, Full sequential Injector outputs, driving 1-32 injectors, including high flow, low impedance injectors down to 0.5ohms per output pin.
The V500 injector driver system reports live status of all injector channels including peak and hold reached times, injector current, short, weak and open circuits.8 Full sequential Ignition outputs, driving 1-8 ignition coil packs in sequential, banked, single, rotary or inverted modes.Latest 3D graphing, live dashboards and Datalogging software.Advanced high-detail Fuel, Ignition and Control mapping systems, 2048 points at 125rpm steps with Easy Tuning modes.

Dual Memory system, Power/Economy, Petrol/Gas modes and more.
Control Functions:

16 General Purpose Output (GPO) functions supporting Auxiliary Outputs, with windowed switching
6 MultiController Output (MCO) functions, supporting 3D and 2D multi-axis tables for mapped linear control of any extra outputs desired, including PWM, solenoid position and trim control of internal ECU parameters
GPO and MCO functions can support VTEC/VVT, NOS, Water Spray, Stepper Motor, Emissions Control, Idle Up, Warning Lights, and any other additional devices required.
Wide-Band Air-Fuel-Ratio (Lambda)
Closed Loop Control
Idle Speed Control
Stepper Motor Control
Turbo Boost/Wastegate Control
Turbo Timer support
Shift Light function, dedicated with up to 6 stages and flash point.
Dedicated Inputs:

13 Auxiliary Input pins available as many extra inputs
Camshaft, Crankshaft, Reference and Sync Trigger inputs, Hall Effect, Reluctor and Optical, user selectable
Internal MAP sensor up to 30psi boost (higher with external sensor)
External MAP or MAF Sensor
Throttle Position
Engine Temperature
Lambda/Oxygen Sensor, Dual Channel, Narrow Band or Wideband LSU4
Air Conditioning Request
Vehicle/Wheel Speed
Dedicated Outputs:

15 to 27 Auxiliary Output pins available as extra outputs (unused Injector and Ignition pins can be used)
8 Smart, Full sequential Injector outputs
8 Full sequential Ignition outputs
Fuel Pump
Thermo Fan
Idle Speed Control
Tacho Output
Turbo TimerSensor Inputs have full OEM-style diagnostics and error checking on each input, detecting out of range or faulty sensors, correcting them to a safe value, and reporting the fault via a flash-code system. Any errors logged can then be inspected by the Wolf V500 PC Software included.

Runs engines up to 16 cylinders with full rotary engine support and odd cylinder counts allowed.
Internal MAP sensor reads boost pressures up to 30psi.
Supports most existing sensors in the vehicle, saving wiring and installation time.
Latest 32 bit processor running at 40MHz with Dual Time Co-Processors, giving precise sequential delivery of fuel and ignition and supporting all other functions including high speed Datalogging with no performance loss.
Weighs only 500 grams and measures 126mm x 114mm x 39mm.
Supplied with wiring harness, quick start guide and searchable installation manual.

[Tocchi]

^^ good ecu. if i didnt already have one, id be wolfing down the chance to get that

[Lump]

http://www.antilag.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23942
:P

[STEALTH]

might be easier/cheaper to use the stock ecu & emanage blue piggyback



+1

[TJ]

Surely someone has a wolf they are using a door stop they dont mind throwing away ?

[Skitzo]

Im willing to sell mine.

[cplagz]

If it's a project and you arent in a massive rush to get an ECU, I'll sell you my MegaSquirt for like $400 once it's out of the car.

[mr2seb]

for those that have said a piggy back. yes that is the way i originally wanted to go.

But the piggy back ecu's that are available are made for the Holden Rodeo ute's. Hence i have to go to stand alone ecu. the pick up point or reference points on a piggy back are made for specific cars.

The wire in ecu'a are more suitable because they are for litterally for any car. i have got a hks fcon pro which is pretty similar to the emanage in function. and can't fit it.

becuase the car is n/a i have had to make the extractors, the dump and the exhaust. the intercooler piping the lot.

The ute belongs to our very own test drivers brother. for those that don't know, Carl or pgh he is registered test driver. jammy git. anyway it is for his brother.

So come on help us. he wants his ute on the road.
Thank you all

[TJ]

Tell him to go a megasquirt then. Cheapest option by far.

Being holden , you might even be able to tune the standard ecu - cheapest option by far once again.

[mr2seb]

TJ tell me more on the megasquirts. are they any good? who tunes them?

Tuning the standerd ecu. or do you mean chipping.
And as it is n/a ecu running turbo would that work?

[TJ]

if you can reflash the ecu.. IF you can, then it doesnt matter what the ecu is designed for as the tuner will change every parameter on their to suit the turbo anyhow.

any tuner with a clue should be able to do a megasquirt.

[mr2seb]

cool. on the megasquirt. are they supposed to be any good?

Who would you approach to see if they can flash tune the ecu?

[Lump]

But the piggy back ecu's that are available are made for the Holden Rodeo ute's. Hence i have to go to stand alone ecu. the pick up point or reference points on a piggy back are made for specific cars.

The wire in ecu'a are more suitable because they are for litterally for any car. i have got a hks fcon pro which is pretty similar to the emanage in function. and can't fit it.



the emanage is a generic piggyback, yes you can buy specific plug&play looms for them but other then that all it does is just 'bend' the signals the original sensors transmit to the ecu.

i dont know what afm your car runs but emanage will work with most types, vane, hotwire or karmen vortex.

even if you cant control the stock injectors for some reason, you should still be able to map/control the ignition curve.

you could add an extra injector & get the emanage to run that independent of the stock ones.

[AD4M]

find a tuner then find an ecu from there recomendations, no point buying an f con, megasquirt,emanage,wolf if they wont/cant/refuse to tune it.

[cplagz]

DIY tune =)

Once I get my car back from the workshop and started again, you are welcome to come check the MS out and see how it works then make a choice from there.

[magic1]

wolf v4 $300............ok $200

[DISTRBD]

wolf v4 $300............ok $200

So your willing to pay someone 200kesh to take the wolf away :eek:

[magic1]

So your willing to pay someone 200kesh to take the wolf away :eek:

im flexible on the price :)..............very

[AGIT8D]

Megasquirt's are commonly used by guys turboing these 2.6's or even the 2L isuzu motors in geminis etc.

We've got a 2.6 at home that's eventually copping similar to what you've done.

If you need some more info jump on some gemmy forums or something mate.

[mr2seb]

Thanks guys i will be in touch.

[iluv2moan]

wolf v4 $300............ok $200

got anymore details??

[mr2seb]

Hey agit8d.
what are you going to do to your 2.6? is it the isuzu engine.
what is it going into?.

Have you already got your manifolds and stuff.
Who is doing it for you?

Hope it goes well mate.
good luck.
sebbo

[AGIT8D]

G'day bud..

Yeah it's a petrol isuzu motor, got it just after a fresh recon, no lip on the bores or anything..

Just gonna put a set of pistons in it and throw a turbo on. My brother is making all the manifolds etc himself (he owns MetalCraft), probably make a new inlet manifold so the TB is at the front facing forwards.

It's going in his yellow [4A10SHN] gemini :)

Been put on the back burner for a while cause my car is taking up his 3 car garage doing my engine swap and once that's done he's got my LS1 to put into an S13.. Get around to it one day.