Advertising

[Brockas]

Some of you have probably seen the banners on Skylines Australia in their header.

We'll be doing something similar.


At the moment, I'm still forking out of my own pocket for hosting etc. Plus, when it comes to events we have no money to throw at setups etc.


This should ensure that finally the upkeep is paid for by the site, and not by me, and we may be able to throw some coin at events to make our stands look a bit more professional.

With this, I hope to make antilag.com a CAMS affiliated club by the end of the year, and start running our own events.


Current sponsors wont be affected, as their banner and position will not change.
The only thing that will change is the antilag banner up the top of the forum pages will get smaller to fit an ad banner next to it.

My thoughts on this were, people are already on this site when they see the antilag banner, they don't need something so big in their face.


Nothing should really change, and I don't think you'll notice much, but wanted to give you all a heads up before it went ahead.

[d1_drifter]

I'm all for it.

You've done alot for this site and, with the continuous growth of it, I would be a very difficult proposition to try and maintain it on your own.

The thought of being CAMS affiliated and being able to stage our own events is also very appealing.

Step in the right direction!

[ben351]

and we may be able to throw some coin at events



code for RB26 rebuild ?

:D

Just hold an MC day or Charity Cruise ... worked for other people :D


Sounds good tho smart move dude !!

have you looked into getting the name affiliated with events like what fabcar has done ?

[///M]

Just hold an MC day or Charity Cruise ... worked for other people :D


i think this would work...

gold coin donation for the maps or something like that?

[Skitzo]

I think its a good idea. We hardly spend anytime looking at the top of the page anyway. Some other ideas could be:

1. Trying to attract more Traders like Import Central and have a small fee
2. DynoDays are a good way to raise a couple of hundred for the club
3. You and TJ can do appearences at events such as Bdays and corporate functions and charge an appearance fee
4. Charge a few bucks for the map on Antilag cruises. Bulk coin to be made right there haha.

[Tocchi]

an Antilag.com charity cruise would be bulk successful based on the amount that turnup normally

but define charity/people in need:
- as mentioned above, the people with RB26's approaching 100,000 km
or
- going to antilag's kitty for future events

:p


anyways, i think its a good idea, Paul you might want to have a talk to Damon (kilma) about how he's set up Perthfalcons accounts. he would be able to give you suggestions and stuff for setting up a carclub account up and stuff like that

[Brockas]

Thanks guys, I've got an idea of what needs to be done, but I'll keep you informed about that as it goes.

Ben, instead of getting the naming rights to events that already exist, I'd rather start our own events, tailored to exactly what people on this site would want.



Hosting was fine when we first started up, but we've gone from ~300 people logging on daily in 2005 to ~650 people logging on daily now.

[flamo_damo]

Sounds very promising, would love to see this club become CAM's affiliated. Defiantly a step forward to the right direction! I'm all for it, as long as a burnout is involved somewhere haha

[confuzion]

Good work Brokeass! I can re-do the flash banner too if you like (new pics/resize it etc)

[ben351]

Ben, instead of getting the naming rights to events that already exist, I'd rather start our own events, tailored to exactly what people on this site would want.





yeah man ... would the cost be too much to start your own event ?

insurance

advertising

venues

shit like that cant be cheap ?

[cplagz]

Insurance is generally the killer for most events.

More supporting vendors who are a bit more active would be good....I'd be happy to assist and "account manage" and set up Group Buys on items .etc if you want Paul.

[Kilma]

Happy with that. I can appreciate how much it costs to keep sites like this running. Not something I would be keen to shell out of my own pocket for, that's for sure.


3. You and TJ can do appearences at events such as Bdays and corporate functions and charge an appearance fee
GOLD!!

[poombah]

CAMS will be interesting..

Club needs to become incorporated, you will need to write up a club constitution and organise elected officials. Membership cards or identification required and obviously a yearly membership will need to be charged to cover costs of yearly CAMS affiliation.... fun starts now.

[OneJ]

We could auction off Teejay's virginity on Ebay like that eastern european model.... except less hot... and more serb like.

[Tocchi]

funnily enough, what Poombah mentioned, about the yearly membership, that would raise funds and also get rid of those dropkicks that join here and subsequently end up in poolroom and banned

[Lonewolf]

CAMS will be interesting..

Club needs to become incorporated, you will need to write up a club constitution and organise elected officials. Membership cards or identification required and obviously a yearly membership will need to be charged to cover costs of yearly CAMS affiliation.... fun starts now.

yep, Joe knows some details here from when we looked at PPCC getting affiliated.

either way, good move, and definitely good to have advertisers pay than you.

[redline07]

CAMS affiliation would be great, I also believe that if you hold an affiliated 'club run', aka cruise, then class B cars can also come out legally :)

[iluv2moan]

u could get antilag numberplates made up then yeah??

[Joe]

yep, Joe knows some details here from when we looked at PPCC getting affiliated.

either way, good move, and definitely good to have advertisers pay than you.

Yep, its not the easiest avenue thats for sure...but I think Antilag has the base and large population to be able to pull it off.

[Brockas]

yeah man ... would the cost be too much to start your own event ?

insurance

advertising

venues

shit like that cant be cheap ?


Yup, which is why there will be a couple of banners on the site. Nothing I've mentioned is cheap, and I simply can't afford to do it out of my own pocket.





Club needs to become incorporated, you will need to write up a club constitution and organise elected officials. Membership cards or identification required and obviously a yearly membership will need to be charged to cover costs of yearly CAMS affiliation.... fun starts now.

Yup, well aware of all of that. Have the CAMS application stuff here, have my accountant setting up the company. None of it's going to be simple or cheap, but nothing worth having comes easy!

I've set a goal for CAMS affiliation by the end of the year. As long as we get the advertising online soon, it shouldn't be a problem.


Basically, if the page views stay consistent (2.5 million a month) we're looking pretty good to be able to set up our own events, while also maintaining a site which has a decent balance of motorsport / local events / general shit talk.


The website will fund the events, so you guys browsing this forum while you're bored at work are actually helping us out :)

Cheers :)

[xr06t]

i KNEW some good could come out of sitting on tinternet rather than working!!

sounds like a great idea, especially if like redline07 said, b reg cars can come to cruises!

[cplagz]

The website will fund the events, so you guys browsing this forum while you're bored at work are actually helping us out :)

Cheers :)

I'll have to start charging a "browsing fee" then!

[DISTRBD]

Sounds like a good idea Brockas , maybe up the rate for current sponsors :p

[Tocchi]

on the advertising, is it just me or are the workshop advertising below antilag logo fitting in the "box" for it?

here's a screen capture of what i mean

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[Skitzo]

I think its only the Import Central one. i have seen it to.

[Brockas]

Yup, check it in firefox, doesn't show up.

Only shows up in IE as far as I'm aware.


Its something subtle in the coding, haven't had time/inclination to find the error.

[Tocchi]

yeh its all of them Skitzo

*shakes fist at IE*

back on topic now :)

[PIGSTi]

CAMS affiliated with more events I like! I actually haven't seen an event run on here yet, maybe I am not looking hard enough.

[gazza750]

how bout on main page turning the ad sideways so ya dont have to scroll half way down the page to get to forum links etc

[Evilteddy]

I think the original plan was to have it down the side

I'm not sure what Brockas was doing with it, but i'll see if i can move it for the time being...

[Mistikal]

Another forum I'm a part of has extra advertising on the front page of the forums for people who aren't registered on the forums, and the regular amount of adverts for those that are registered.

As I'm sure we get a few 'guests' come onto the forums each day to do a bit of reading, maybe throw some extra adverts their way?

Just an idea.

andy

[Brockas]

how bout on main page turning the ad sideways so ya dont have to scroll half way down the page to get to forum links etc

Thats just a glitch.

Obviously not permenant.

[RICEY]

Top of page looks shite cant you have the three banners on one line?

[Evilteddy]

Not with the size of the advertisement banner...

Maybe putting it next to the sponsors banner is a better idea...

[ben351]

oi ... do we get hook ups at foxtel now ... tell them i know Paul from antilag ... hook my up with movie channels and the adult channels n shit

[Cake]

You are shit Brockas.

[Brett_J]

Antilag, where advertising matters :D

[Brockas]

I love you all.


Ricey, it's the same setup as SAU, I think it looks fine. Can't please everyone.

[iluv2moan]

Not with the size of the advertisement banner...

Maybe putting it next to the sponsors banner is a better idea...

i agree - put both adverts next to each other and the antilag banner on its own line (if thats possible)

[Brockas]

I'll see what I can conjour up.

[Milhouse]

dunno if this has been noticed. im gettin 2 of the same adverts on the bottom of everypage.

running latest firefox on mac osx 10.55 if that helps. havent tried windows yet.

[Brockas]

Thats normal.

I put the other banner down there as I didn't want it after the 1st post of every thread. IMO thats too intrusive.

[RICEY]

Kinda pointless having two of the same ad though hahaha

Well three including the top :D

[Evilteddy]

The more ads, the more views, the more money.

[DISTRBD]

The more ads, the more views, the more money.

I like the government ad for climate change , whats next hoonlaw ad :wiggle:

[RICEY]

Surely 3 different ads would generate more income than 3 of the same ad though? Or is it a set rate for all ads?

[Evilteddy]

Well basically, if there's 3 adverts on a page, how ever many views that page gets is multiplied by 3.

Doesn't matter on what the ad is showing as far as i'm aware.

[Nismo33]

What it looks like is not a big issue that can be played with over time.
The main thing is are you covering costs now Paul?

[Brockas]

We'll see come the 15th.

I'm also in the process of setting up a company for the club.

This is a requirement for CAMS affilliation.


Things like that cost a few hundred, then the paperwork, then CAMS will cost about a grand a year.

It all racks up!

[Nismo33]

We'll see come the 15th.

I'm also in the process of setting up a company for the club.

This is a requirement for CAMS affilliation.


Things like that cost a few hundred, then the paperwork, then CAMS will cost about a grand a year.

It all racks up!

Good work!
So does that mean I can get rid of my WASCC membership and use Anti-lag instead to renew cams licence!
That would be handy as!
Worth an anual fee maybe?
Also get rid of people just selling stuff!

[Skitzo]

Id happily pay 2 or 3 bucks for antilag membership.

[Brockas]

Yeh it'll mean you can use Antilag to renew your cams licence.

There wont be an annual fee for everyone, just those who wish to get a CAMS licence with us.
With the annual fee you'll also be included in an official motorsport forum on here, which only members can view.

[Brockas]

Id happily pay 2 or 3 bucks for antilag membership.

LOL you're so generous.

[Nismo33]

Yeh it'll mean you can use Antilag to renew your cams licence.

There wont be an annual fee for everyone, just those who wish to get a CAMS licence with us.
With the annual fee you'll also be included in an official motorsport forum on here, which only members can view.


Beauty I'm in when you get it off the ground!

[Brockas]

Aiming for the end of the year.

[Seeker]

Would clicking the banners a few times per day help you out at all? I'd be happy to do this if they work in the same style as Adsense.

Or is just their presence on the site helping you out?

[bLaM]

argh, this is gay, seeing the foxtel one makes me wanna get foxtel!

nah its a good idea, hope it helps pay for the site

[Brockas]

Would clicking the banners a few times per day help you out at all? I'd be happy to do this if they work in the same style as Adsense.

Or is just their presence on the site helping you out?

Nar it's all good, it only works on page views, not clicks.

[Ryan1080]

Just curious... how much do they actually pay per each view?

[Brockas]

Not much, but its enough to cover hosting.



Ricey, does that look better to you?

[upgarage]

is it just me that runs a 1024 x 768 resolution

new banner is wider than this
so you gotta scroll right to read stuff

[Brockas]

is it just me that runs a 1024 x 768 resolution

new banner is wider than this
so you gotta scroll right to read stuff

Are you using Firefox?


In IE it should appear at ~90% of your screen size, no matter what your resolution is.

Obviously Firefox requires different coding... bah.


I'll sort it, but obviously need feedback.

[Lonewolf]

looks better.

[d1_drifter]

Love the banner!

Does that say Dak Dak next to Joe's car? Haha.

[Brockas]

haha yeh it does, it's a picture of the back of Jamie's car from Motorvation.


Have had to go back to the old style just until I sort out the coding for the new banner.

Not sure why but it's not shrinking it to fit the screen.

[Brockas]

ok sorted...... I think?

[upgarage]

yeah dude
works fine now

cheers

[Fryman]

banner has wayy too many datsuns in it

and hotels in china can eat a dick

layout works fine on a laptop 15 inch 1280x1024

[RICEY]

Not much, but its enough to cover hosting.



Ricey, does that look better to you?

yeah looks heaps tidier :)

[Tocchi]

the 3x1 looks way better than the "2 on top, 1 underneath" banner setting
:)

btw, i like the idea of the Cams licence :) mine runs out in June 09 so ill join up when i need to renew :)

[Jimmy_S]

Far too much Nissan love on there... 4 models of Skyline??

CoMe On!!!! ;)

[Kilma]

the 3x1 looks way better than the "2 on top, 1 underneath" banner setting
:)

btw, i like the idea of the Cams licence :) mine runs out in June 09 so ill join up when i need to renew :)
+1 on both counts.

[Evilteddy]

"Antilag.com Where performance matters!"

Not

'PerthWRX Where Dakdakdakdakdakdakdakdakdak!"

:P

[magic1]

got to have your own car in the banner..........ego!

[Brockas]

Knew you were going to mention that.

I'm going to punch you right in the pingpingpingping.

[Nismo33]

Far too much Nissan love on there... 4 models of Skyline??

CoMe On!!!! ;)

Think you should add a 31 as well, remove the dakdak LOL!

[Tocchi]

there's an ad about how the caffers die of starvation if fuel prices increase.
charity ads FTL

[FranZ]

Is it just me or is the third banner down the only thing centred; the two banners above it seem to be more to the left than the right.

Banners at the bottom of the page are fine.

Im running a res of 1920x1200. Let me know if you want a screen grab.

[Brockas]

Yeh dude PM me a screen grab if you can.

On my computer and the other 2 I've tested they seem to be in the middle, but these comps are all running the same resolution.

[Evilteddy]

It's your resolution Franzy.

[JME]

Im wearing suspenders and a bra. Let me know if you want a head job.


translated...

[Brockas]

Then PM your address.


Cheers.

[FranZ]

PM sent. The rest of you are a$$holes! :p

[RICEY]

Is it just me or is the third banner down the only thing centred; the two banners above it seem to be more to the left than the right.

Banners at the bottom of the page are fine.

Im running a res of 1920x1200. Let me know if you want a screen grab.

Same here..

Same res too

[Biante12]

1400 x 1050. Anitlag banner only one not centred

[Mistikal]

1400 x 1050. Anitlag banner only one not centred

Ditto, 'cept I'm on 1280 x 1024.

Edit: Using Firefox aswell.

andy

[Brockas]

Will have a look into it tomorrow sometime.

[zxz]

well that looks heaps better and it fits within the screen of my crappy work computer instead of being too wide and me having to scroll sideways to see whole posts...

by the way i just got a error message when trying to post saying that the server wasnt available or some shit.
all good now though

[cplagz]

I dont get the banners at home at all, they dont show up (I use an app to block scripts)..... will this affect coin earning Brokeback

[Milhouse]

yeah i was gettin the same error yesterday.

seems to have resolved itself today !

[Brockas]

Probably not, so long as most people don't use that app!


They use javascript to run.


You were probably getting error msgs because I was messing around with the coding yesterday/today.

[mys1]

Same for me, I think work block most things, I get one add at the top of the page for like CIC or import central etc etc and thats it :)

Makes for nice easy reading :)

[DISTRBD]

I like the dog pissing in the toilet

[Milhouse]

im liking the "indian matchmaker" adverts atm hahah.

[Joe]

LOL, I just got an Indian arranged marriage banner. Classic!

Imagine if just one Antilagger clicked the banner and took the plunge? Fark, there'd be mowers starting up everywhere....we'd have 4 Weddings And A Funeral (after she dies from Marble's STD's).

http://i34.tinypic.com/2moxbbs.jpg

[DISTRBD]

I ordered my new 09 Hamper cataloque

[Milhouse]

im sure slave has clicked that banner like a mad(unt :D