Dr Dre - Detox, and other old skool rap discussion

[TJ]

Apparently this is out June 13?

Anyone heard about this? Its been like 8 years in the making!

[Brockas]

Fuck, about time!

I remember reading in a sanity mag back in 2002 that it was going to be released "in December" haha

[ben351]

man been a while since a deccent old school rapper made an album worth listening too

i brought Biggies greatest hits today ... fucking heart that shit

[Joe]

I downloaded a back-up copy for my perfectly legitimate purchased copy, of Biggie's greatest hits. Awesome.

Can't wait to download a back-up copy for my perfectly legitimate purchased copy of Detox.

[OneJ]

Yeh he's been too busy crushing weights in the gym.

http://usversusthem.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/dr-dre-on-swole.jpg
http://www.defsounds.com/media/2363/2369/4836/asset.jpg

[Joe]

Yeah, he ain't a player...he just crushes a lot.

[ben351]

what the fuck is with fat rappers getting buff

first it was LL cool J ... that kunt cant keep a shirt on now ... walking the streets shirt off thinking he is johnny fucking rambo

http://spectacle.provocateuse.com/images/spectacles/l_l_cool_j_01.jpg

fat joe dont give a fuck ...

http://bossip.com/uploaded_images/untitfatjoe6.JPG

big ole titties hanging ... keep it gangsta

[Joe]

So he wasn't wrong when he said he wasn't a player, he just crushes a lot...yeah, he crushes girls vertebrae when he lies on top of them.

[Brockas]

i brought Biggies greatest hits today ...

It's been a while...

[Brockas]

This is the speculated track list:

1. Intro
2. I’m Back(D.R.E.) ft. Snoop Dogg
3. Rendevous ft. Busta Rhymes
4. Compton’s Finest ft. The Game
5. Lyrical Dynamo ft. Rakim, Hittman, Ms.Roq
6. That The Way ft. G.A.G.E., Stat Quo
7. Real zaggin ft. Kurupt, Ms.Roq, Hittman, Defari, Knoc-Turn’al
8. i$$as And Bitches(Skit) ft. Eddie Griffin
9. Raindrops ft. Mary J.Blige
10. Kick Yo Ass ft. Ice Cube, Mc Ren,
11. Pass The Torch ft. Eminem, Nate Dogg
12. Devil’s Gun ft. Kokane
13. You’re Nasty(Skit) ft. Jake Steed
14. Bottles Up ft. 50 Cent
15. Runnin’ Thang ft. Knoc-Turn’al
16. Phone Call(Skit) ft. Eddie Griffin, Traci Nelson
17. It’s Not A Game ft. Bishop Lamont, Xzibit
18. Do It Again ft. Eve, Ms.Roq, Kokane
19. She On The Pole(Skit) Eddie Griffin
20. Cycle of Dre ft. Eminem

[ben351]

wow .... thats BOMBED

[1JZNOSHIT]

man been a while since a deccent old school rapper made an album worth listening too

2Pac will probably bring a new album out soon too!

[Joe]

I heard 2Pac's cousin 1Pac is releasing an album....they call him that because he lost one of his nuts in a drive-by shooting.

[TJ]

Im sure Suge Knight will release some previously lost in the archives songs to milk another dollar from his name

[Joe]

Yeah 2Pac had PLENTY of post-humous material...compared to Notorious B.I.G., who hardly had any (and thus the reason you've not heard too much "unreleased" stuff)

[Slip_]

This is the speculated track list:

1. Intro
2. I’m Back(D.R.E.) ft. Snoop Dogg
3. Rendevous ft. Busta Rhymes
4. Compton’s Finest ft. The Game
5. Lyrical Dynamo ft. Rakim, Hittman, Ms.Roq
6. That The Way ft. G.A.G.E., Stat Quo
7. Real zaggin ft. Kurupt, Ms.Roq, Hittman, Defari, Knoc-Turn’al
8. i$$as And Bitches(Skit) ft. Eddie Griffin
9. Raindrops ft. Mary J.Blige
10. Kick Yo Ass ft. Ice Cube, Mc Ren,
11. Pass The Torch ft. Eminem, Nate Dogg
12. Devil’s Gun ft. Kokane
13. You’re Nasty(Skit) ft. Jake Steed
14. Bottles Up ft. 50 Cent
15. Runnin’ Thang ft. Knoc-Turn’al
16. Phone Call(Skit) ft. Eddie Griffin, Traci Nelson
17. It’s Not A Game ft. Bishop Lamont, Xzibit
18. Do It Again ft. Eve, Ms.Roq, Kokane
19. She On The Pole(Skit) Eddie Griffin
20. Cycle of Dre ft. Eminem

Thats not shabby.

Cant blame the man for waiting 8 years to get his time right... you can imagine given who he is... releasing an album these days has to be fairly calculated when it comes to dates.

Yeh 2pac has another release... titled "Not Alive"... you probably didn't hear about it... back in 1994...

[TJ]

hahahaha this was the dopest song I ever wrote ... in 94!

[Slip_]

hahahaha this was the dopest song I ever wrote ... in 94!

ZING!

[TJ]

Dave Chapelle/Tupac Lyrics

"Dave Chappelle Show: New Tupac Skit"

Listen close, as life turns its pages
Makeveli here, kickin rhymes for the ages
see things is changin, wives, work, smokin by sages
from skytell to blackberry pagas!
yo crew dont phase us, well make you bustas pay us
run up in yo spot like CJ from San Andreas.

I wrote this song a long time
a real long time ago FEEL ME!
i wrote this song a long time ago
it was the dopest song i ever wrote in 94

now what can a nigga do..
when half the people voted for george W.
Listen close, George W. cant be true
im gunna choke him, cause hes a snitch
Im talkin bout george w smith
from city council, he ran in 93
out in oakland, you probably didnt hear about him.

I wrote this song a long time ago
a real long time ago
way before slim shady was in demand
way before we dropped bolony on afghanistan
i wrote this song in 94!

how am i doin this?!?!
look around the club
see everyone in the place
showin pac love
and a smile on my face
the girl in the mini skirt has bad taste
cause that shirt dont match
and theres a puddin stain on the back
what the fuck is that?!
it might be dooo doooo!
and you in the back you ain't the shit,
you bought a gin a tonic but u didnt even tip
and if u hit this table one more time
then the record might skip *record skips* might skip
i told you...stop hittin the table.

Tupac is ova. I wrote this crap in 1994.
IM NOT ALIVE!
THUG LIFE!
dave chappelle, that aint yo wife.
you better leave, you have 2 kids
GO HOOOOOMMMEE!!!
i wrote this song a long time ago
a real long time ago
way before beanie seigel had to do a bid
way before dave chappelle had 2 kids
you aint gettin no coochy.
DJ: rest in peace
OKAY I WILL!



One of the funniest skits in that shows history

[Slip_]

One of the funniest skits in that shows history

100% wholeheartedly aggree...

BOUZ and myself just relived the tears... cheers man...


now what can a nigga do..
when half the people voted for george W.
Listen close, George W. cant be true
im gunna choke him, cause hes a snitch
Im talkin bout george w smith
from city council, he ran in 93
out in oakland, you probably didnt hear about him.

EPIC LOL!

[TJ]

the girl in the mini skirt has bad taste
cause that shirt dont match
and theres a puddin stain on the back
what the fuck is that?!
it might be dooo doooo!

That always cracks me up hard!

[evil1]

man been a while since a deccent old school rapper made an album worth listening too

i brought Biggies greatest hits today ... fucking heart that shit

biggie is the shiz cuz
eazy e toooO!

[Endless]

Muchly looking forward to this Album! :D

[ben351]

biggie is the shiz cuz
eazy e toooO!

N.W.A ....

:D

Old School Ice Cube is bombed too

and dont even get me started on WU-TANG !!!!!!!

From the slums of Shaolin, Wu-Tang Clan strikes again
The RZA, the GZA, Ol Dirty Bastard, Inspectah Deck, Raekwon the Chef
U-God, Ghost Face Killer and the Method Man ... M E T H O D MANNNN

[WRCjosh]

cash rules everything around me!

i had 36 chambers rollin in the shed last nite when i was workin on the car, fresh ta death!

[ben351]

no shit !!!

i was looking for a copy of that yesterday at JB HIFI hahaha they didnt have one fuckers

[TJ]

Haha I just found Wu Tang Forever in my stack of CD's at work!

Time for some Wu!

[EYEH8HSV]

fuk yer wutangs the shit...

[Adr3naL1N]

haha havent listened to wu in ages

cant go past "gravel pit" and "rumble"

[ben351]

dude ... your clearly like 20 years old hahahah

old school wu > new wu

m.e.t.h.o.d.man
proteck ya neck
c.r.e.a.m.
shame on a niggah

shit like that ... circa 1993 man

[Brockas]

Yeh dude, you gotta be like at LEAST 24 to listen to that shit...

otherwise you just whack!

[ben351]

you prefer the newer stuff paul ?

[OneJ]

Gravel Pit was a fucking disgrace. pingpingpingpings dressed up like Freddy fucken Flintstone. Joker pingpingpingpings.

[Brockas]

you prefer the newer stuff paul ?

haha no, just saying you don't have to be old to appreciate the older stuff...

[ben351]

this was my reaction when i seen that film clip

http://www.thegossipfix.com/wp-content/uploads/omgshock1.gif

[1JZNOSHIT]

gravediggaz - 6ft deep, 4tw!

[Adr3naL1N]

dude ... your clearly like 20 years old hahahah

old school wu > new wu

m.e.t.h.o.d.man
proteck ya neck
c.r.e.a.m.
shame on a niggah

shit like that ... circa 1993 man


Im 22 to be exact, yeah love protect ya neck and cream, but love rumble and gravel pit more.

[WRCjosh]

guillotine swordz inspektah deck!

[Adr3naL1N]

anyone have the wu tang game on the original ps1? used to love that game!

[1JZNOSHIT]

diversify your bonds, NIGGAH!

[WRCjosh]

bring tha rukus

"Ghostface! Catch the blast of a hype verse/My glock burst/Leave in a hearse/I done worse/ya come ROUGH! bestttttt rhymes those kids

[ben351]

i used to love Bobby Digital too ... Rza's alter ego

The B the O the B the B the Y the D the I the G the I the T the A the L ... its Diggy HOOOOLD UP

[ben351]

oh and Tikal 2000 Method Mans album

bombed sing

[TJ]

diversify your bonds, NIGGAH!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

[TJ]

http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=11887

[Joe]

haha fuck yer, some old skool ballers on here :D

I was crankin Eazy in the car on the way home last night..

"cruisin down the street in my six-fo'...jockin the bitches, slappin the hoes"

[Joe]

dude ... your clearly like 20 years old hahahah

old school wu > new wu

m.e.t.h.o.d.man
proteck ya neck
c.r.e.a.m.
shame on a niggah

shit like that ... circa 1993 man

:werd:

C.R.E.A.M. is fucking DOPE. I remember crankin that shit up on my Sony Discman when I was like 15, and then later on when I got my first car and my first sub woofer....so fuckin awesome


I grew up on the crime side, the New York Times side
Staying alive was no jive
At second hands, moms bounced on old men
So then we moved to Shaolin land
A young youth, yo rockin the gold tooth, 'Lo goose
Only way, I begin to gee off was drug loot
And let's start it like this son, rollin with this one
And that one, pullin out gats for fun
But it was just a dream for the teen, who was a fiend
Started smokin woolies at sixteen
And running up in gates, and doing hits for high stakes
Making my way on fire escapes
No question I would speed, for cracks and weed
The combination made my eyes bleed
No question I would flow off, and try to get the dough all
Sticking up white boys in ball courts
My life got no better, same damn 'Lo sweater
Times is ruff and tuff like leather
Figured out I went the wrong route
So I got with a sick ass click and went all out
Catchin keys from across seas
Rollin in MPV's, every week we made forty G's
Yo nigga respect mine, or anger the tech nine
Ch-chick-POW! Move from the gate now

[Joe]

Oh and although Wu, Eazy and all the other old school artists are awesome, nothing....NOTHING, comes close to Notorious B.I.G.

I'll throw it out there now, I'm probably the biggest Biggie Smalls fan on this entire forum.

One of my fav lines ..from a Tupac and Biggie live freestyle back in '95.

"I got 7 Mack 11's, 8 .38's, Nine 9's, Ten Mack 10's, the shit never ends.."

[ben351]

haha fuck yer, some old skool ballers on here :D

I was crankin Eazy in the car on the way home last night..

"cruisin down the street in my six-fo'...jockin the bitches, slappin the hoes"

i heart you !!!!!

do me a mp3 cd !!

B.I.G best song = Juicey

AND IF YOU DONT KNOW .... KNOW YOU KNOWWWW .... NIGGGAHHH

[TJ]

Oh and although Wu, Eazy and all the other old school artists are awesome, nothing....NOTHING, comes close to Notorious B.I.G.

I'll throw it out there now, I'm probably the biggest Biggie Smalls fan on this entire forum.

One of my fav lines ..from a Tupac and Biggie live freestyle back in '95.

"I got 7 Mack 11's, 8 .38's, Nine 9's, Ten Mack 10's, the shit never ends.."

Id be on par with you do doubt.

Year 9 school dance, Alex Decastro plays Hypnotise.... and that I was. Been a massive fan ever since.

I love the remix of runnin with pac

"Check it, I grew up a fuckin screw up
Got introduced to the game, got a ounce and fuckin blew up"

[ben351]

2pac & Biggie - Runnin

[Joe]

i heart you !!!!!

do me a mp3 cd !!

B.I.G best song = Juicey

AND IF YOU DONT KNOW .... KNOW YOU KNOWWWW .... NIGGGAHHH

Sean has one sitting on the desk at ASG...entire Biggie discography in mp3 format, which I did up so he can play it in his Landcruiser.

You can steal his or I'll burn u one :)

[1JZNOSHIT]

2Pac - All Eyez on Me, still the best gangsta rap album IMO.

Bone Thugs n Harmony - Art of War is also cool too.

[ben351]

ill take one please Joe !!!

bring tomorrow night if you come ... throw some eazy e on there :)

[Joe]

I'm big dangerous you're just a lil vicious as I leave my competition respirator style.

Climb the ladder to success escalator style hold y'all breath I told y'all death controls y'all big don't fold y'all

I spit phrases that'll thrill you......you're nobody til somebody kills you

[Joe]

2pac is dope as well, for me he comes a very close 2nd to Biggie.

[1JZNOSHIT]

any love for Warren G? hes old skool!

[jr]

When it comes to sex, I'm similar to the thriller in Manila
Honeys call me Bigga the condom filler
Whether it's stiff tongue or stiff dick
Biggie squeeze it to make shit fit, now check this shit
I got the pack of Rough Riders in the back of the Pathfinder
You know the ep along by James Todd Smith
I get swift with the lyrical gift
Hit you with the dick, make your kidneys shift

best verse ever

[Joe]

any love for Warren G? hes old skool!

Oooh fuck yeah..

It's kind of easy when you're listenin to the G-Dub sound
Pioneer speakers bumpin as I smoke on a pound
I got the sound for your ass and it's easy to see
That this D.J. be Warren G

:D

[ben351]

warren g - take a look over your shoulder ... love that album !!!

Annie May :D

[TJ]

Warren G got fuckall on any else mentioned here.

Annie May was a crackup of a song :D

The disk I burnt you hace juicey on it Ben :)

[Joe]

Regulate is a pretty fuckin phat song though, you gotta admit..

[TJ]

[Warren G]
1, 2 buckle my shoe,
3, 4 we gotta hit the store,
5, 6 back in the mix,
7, 8 Warren G and Nate,

[Nate Dogg]
Bang to the boogy say up jump the boogy
to the rhythm of the boogidy beat
I dont love no hoes they know so they don't be fuckin wit me

[Warren G]
A long time ago I met Annie Mae
she was killing me softly like everyday
penetentiary steel, was stickin for real
blockbustin through the walls
now I'm makin housecalls

[Nate Dogg]
I thought I'd met a lot of scandalous women, and then I met Annie Mae
Got a thin big butt like steel
But she didn't have a place to stay

[Warren G]
She was shackin at mine and shackin at his
blowin my socks, tellin his biz
Nate Dogg this and Nate Dogg that
213 skirt, and we stay intact
So I told the homey Nate don't be mislead
ain't no fun if the homey can't shake a leg
so I went to the house and knocked on the door
and guess who it was, Annie Mae you H-O

[Chorus]
I once knew a trick named Annie Mae (Annie Mae)
(I once met a bitch named Annie Mae)
I once knew a trick named Annie Mae (Annie Mae)
I once knew a trick named Annie Mae

[Nate Dogg]
Remember yesterday I asked you baby have I seen you somewhere before
with just one look, the pussy was took
cuz I make music that you adore
Now I'm not sure and I might be trippin
but in 94 I heard a song
it ain't no fun unless the homeys can come
so Warren G put a condom on

[Warren G]
Now Nate you know me and I know you
I got rubbers, gin and socco(?) too
so lets do the do, on how we do,
never my boot, just a freak that I knew

[Chorus]

[Warren G]
Annie Mae, Annie Mae, you ran out of time
Warren G and Nate Dogg blew your mind
cuz if you trickin wit him
you trickin wit me, you trickin wit the 2 1 muthafuckin 3
I came from rags to riches
trustin no snitches
thats how we do on 9 C I X bitches
buck em, fuck em, and put em in the trash
and jump in the 600 Benz and dash

[Nate Dogg]
Hold up Warren before you go just a couple things I got to say
Are you goin home, I wanna be alone
You need to take this... home


Nate Dogg - best colobarating artist - I "bought" his albums - he is average alone.

Get Nate, Snoop, X all together and nothing beats it :D

[ben351]

niggah please

It's kind of easy when you're listening to the G-Dub sound
Pioneer speakers bumpin as I smoke on a pound
I got the sound fo yo' ass and it's easy to see
That this D.J. be Warren G

[TJ]

I dont mind groupie love - once again a colaboration song!

[Joe]

niggah please

It's kind of easy when you're listening to the G-Dub sound
Pioneer speakers bumpin as I smoke on a pound
I got the sound fo yo' ass and it's easy to see
That this D.J. be Warren G

Warren G's tracks get you bumpin....they are killer, especially the collabo's as TJ mentioned!

[1JZNOSHIT]

What about that collaboration he did a few years back.....

Whats Love Got to Do with it? w/ Tina Turner.

yeah bombed!

[TJ]

Seriously, lay down an mix cd from

Snoop
Dre
Pac
Biggie
Wu
Warren G
X

And have to put them in order of what you would listen to - Warren G is last, and by a long shot to me.

But its opinion of course!

[Joe]

Fark yer :D


What about that collaboration he did a few years back.....

Whats Love Got to Do with it? w/ Tina Turner.

yeah bombed!

Back before 92 and 93, you didn't give a damn about Warren G. Now that I'm slingin platinum L.P.'s, all of a sudden you on my N.U.T.'s

:D

[ben351]

id put X to teh Z above Warren G tho ... thos bulk respect for Warren when he did that song with Peter Fucking Andre

and put Ice cube in there :)

Straight outtah Compton a crazy mutha fucker named ice cube from the gang called niggahs with attitude

[TJ]

Oh I just listed them - my order would be :

Snoop
Biggie
Dre
X
Pac
Wu

Warren G

[1JZNOSHIT]

and Eazy E you b*tchez, hes the hardest of the lot, and he got the AIDs.

[ben351]

Id go

2pac
Biggie
dre
snoop
x
wu

[Joe]

For me it would be (in this order)

Biggie
2Pac
Snoop
Ice Cube
Dre
Eazy
Wu Tang
Warren G
Xzibit

But now that we're expanding this discussion, hows about Mobb Deep? Those niggas are near the top of their game, Shook Ones is still one of my favourite tracks.

I slot them in around Dre and Eazy.

[1JZNOSHIT]

2pac
snoop
dre
eazy e
biggie
X
Wazza G

[Slip_]

for me...

Wu Tang
Biggie
Snoop
2Pac
Dre
Warren G
Ice Cube
Eazy
Xzibit

I'd have to add EPMD and slick Rick tho!

[TJ]

Fuck yer - shook ones is a classic - still gets cranked at least once a week !

His newest album is also a favourite.

[Ramsey]

2pac
Biggie
Easy E
Dre
x
Snoop
Warren G

[Joe]

P.S. just to throw fuel on the fire, none of the hip hop we're referring to is officially "old school"...thats anything before 1986 i.e. Sugarhill Gang, Kurtis Blow, Melle Mel and Grandmaster Flash.

What we listen to is the "Golden Age" i.e. 87-92 and the "2nd Golden Age" which is 93 to around 95.

Golden Age is also referred to as old school now and old school as classic, but yer :)

[Joe]

P.S. LL Cool J has been kickin it since 1983 and he's still going...much respect.

Did anyone catch Ice Cube when he was here last year? I've seen most of the big hip hop artists when they've been here (although I'm absolutely gutted that I missed Bone Thugz a few years ago when I was away in Qld at the time), and Ice Cube was definitely at the top of the pile for me. Absolutely blew me away!

[TJ]

I agree with that, but to me, the entire scene seemed to change around the time of Em coming to prominence... rap lost a bit of its "rawness"

Now guys like 50 and The Game are sposed to be the current day biggie and pac... but they just dont cut it.

Snoops happy plodding along throwing a bit in here and there but has never come close to repeating doggy style.

When Biggie got killed, we lost one of the best flowing and sounding rappers ever in my humble opinion.

Pac was good, but his was a voice of anger at the world - some of his rap was very very dark to say the least.

Its just not the same these days!

[Joe]

Definitely not the same.

To me, hip hop died when biggie and tupac died. Still awesome, but nowhere near the awesomeness that it was when they were spittin lyrics.

[ben351]

Pac was good, but his was a voice of anger at the world - some of his rap was very very dark to say the least.

Its just not the same these days!


lies

2pacs greatest hits disc 1 - number 9 - unconditional love and number 11 - life goes on are two of my favs and there far from blacka nd dark ... also there is i aint mad at cha and dear mamma even changes to an extent all great 2 pac songs non of them dark or hard ... calafornia love ... live and die in la ... how long will they mourn me ... me against the world i could go on for ever ...

when he did do a dark track like Hit em up or Thug Love feat Bone Thugz he fucking nailed it

[1JZNOSHIT]

Ice-T, biggest playa hater out there!

HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE!

[Slip_]

Definitely not the same.

To me, hip hop died when biggie and tupac died. Still awesome, but nowhere near the awesomeness that it was when they were spittin lyrics.

I cannot aggree.

Rap died when biggie and Tupac passed.

Not Hip Hop.

I appreciate the foundations of the 90's, certain heads need to be remembered.

But Hip Hop is a deep pool... for me... from what ive been listening to and stumbling accross as i do... its going from strength to strength and is more exciting than ever...

the 90's were troublesome times and exciting. but not what Hip Hop is all about. thats why some differentiate between hip hop, Gfunk and Rap.

[1JZNOSHIT]

lies

2pacs greatest hits disc 1 - number 9 - unconditional love and number 11 - life goes on are two of my favs and there far from blacka nd dark ... also there is i aint mad at cha and dear mamma even changes to an extent all great 2 pac songs non of them dark or hard ... calafornia love ... live and die in la ... how long will they mourn me ... me against the world i could go on for ever ...

when he did do a dark track like Hit em up or Thug Love feat Bone Thugz he fucking nailed it

+1, He was very diverse as an artist, as seen by that track with Elton JOhn, Ghetto Gospel.

[ben351]

+1, He was very diverse as an artist, as seen by that track with Elton JOhn, Ghetto Gospel.

and thugs mansion

[TJ]

Ice-T, biggest playa hater out there!

HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE!

"as i drink my soda that im sure somebody spat in"

"next nigga who speaks while im talking will get shot, please believe dat"

And yeah Ben, I know, but like I said some of his stuff was pretty angry.

[Adr3naL1N]

Ice cube and 2 pac are def the two big winners with me. but i love most of them, biggie was awesome, i was never really much of a big fan of snoop, the odd few but he never did much for me, whats my name part 1 was def my fav track from him.

then closely followed by X and Dre. Warren g and easy e running after that.

have to agree with joe, mobb deep def has some classics, "Hell On Earth" "Queens finest" and my fav track a newer one "Got it Twisted" best fucking beat.

have a copy of NWA's "the legacy", excellent double cd feat some of the 90s best music from 2 pac, nwa, eazy e, daz, the dogg pound etc, grab it if you can find it!! very hard to find now!!

[1JZNOSHIT]

Some favs from a while back.

Jay-Z "Reasonable Doubt" in about 1996.
Jay-Z "Hard Knock Life" about 1999ish i think.
DMX too "And Then There was X" back in 1999.
Naughty By Nature "19 Naughty Nine - Natures Fury" in about 1999 as well i think.

[ben351]

DMX - flesh of my flesh blood of my blood

[Joe]

I cannot aggree.

Rap died when biggie and Tupac passed.

Not Hip Hop.

I appreciate the foundations of the 90's, certain heads need to be remembered.

But Hip Hop is a deep pool... for me... from what ive been listening to and stumbling accross as i do... its going from strength to strength and is more exciting than ever...

the 90's were troublesome times and exciting. but not what Hip Hop is all about. thats why some differentiate between hip hop, Gfunk and Rap.

Yeah gotta agree with you there...I use the word "hip-hop" a bit too liberally.. Lets just say that gangsta rap died when biggie/pac did.

Hip-hop is way too broad to start making calls like that....modern poetic hip-hop artists like Talib Kweli, Mos Def, etc...they really are the new school, the "smart" artists I like to call them. They are still cool, although on the cusp of being commercial (I hope they never cross that line). To me, they are the ones who really put much thought into their tracks and they speak from the heart rather than from the wallet (Soulja Boy up in this hoooooo)

Now if I was a rapper, I'd write a diss about you right now...but instead we're going to agree on this one lol :D

[Slip_]

Some favs from a while back.

Jay-Z "Reasonable Doubt" in about 1996.
Jay-Z "Hard Knock Life" about 1999ish i think.
DMX too "And Then There was X" back in 1999.
Naughty By Nature "19 Naughty Nine - Natures Fury" in about 1999 as well i think.

Good calls MrD, reasonable doubt is up there!

[OLSKOOL1800]

HIP HOP is Currently DEAD!!!
It has been for a while sadly.

The good shit goes unnoticed and the shit is heard and appreciated.

For example: Flo Rida and Soulja Boy has to be the saddest shit known to man.
I want to punch pingpingpingpings in the head when they request that shit!
No taste what so ever!!!

Don't get me started on people saying 'play some hip hop' when i am actually playing something like (old) Mobb Deep or (old) Ice Cube or Lupe Fiasco or Jurrassic 5 etc...

People are dumb and ignorant.

Now I have had a little rant I would like to know if anybody is keen on getting some mix tapes off me?
HIP HOP mixtapes that is!
1983 to Present day - stuff I like and stuff you all will :)

Maybe I could upload them to a server for download?

I will be mixing them on the ones and twos and I think I have reasonable skills so let me know if anybody is keen and I will pull my finger out :)

Jordan.

[Joe]

Naughty By Nature "19 Naughty Nine - Natures Fury" in about 1999 as well i think.

HELLLL YEAH :D

Holiday, such a bombed summer track :)

[Joe]

Now I have had a little rant I would like to know if anybody is keen on getting some mix tapes off me?

/hand up

[Joe]

For example: Flo Rida and Soulja Boy has to be the saddest shit known to man.


Took the words out of my mouth.

For the record, I don't mind the track as a bit of fun listening i.e. after you've had about a dozen drinks and feel like slurring along, but it'll never be up there with the classics..

[TJ]

Jordan, you know im keen :)

[Slip_]

Yeah gotta agree with you there...I use the word "hip-hop" a bit too liberally.. Lets just say that gangsta rap died when biggie/pac did.

Hip-hop is way too broad to start making calls like that....modern poetic hip-hop artists like Talib Kweli, Mos Def, etc...they really are the new school, the "smart" artists I like to call them. They are still cool, although on the cusp of being commercial (I hope they never cross that line). To me, they are the ones who really put much thought into their tracks and they speak from the heart rather than from the wallet (Soulja Boy up in this hoooooo)

Now if I was a rapper, I'd write a diss about you right now...but instead we're going to agree on this one lol :D

Conscious Rap? :)

Talib Kanye and Mos are indeed all leaning towards commercial, only due to success. they started making sounds in the same playground as Pharoh Monch etc. They've been around.

Touching the surface i get what you mean.

[ben351]

HIP HOP is Currently DEAD!!!
It has been for a while sadly.

The good shit goes unnoticed and the shit is heard and appreciated.

For example: Flo Rida and Soulja Boy has to be the saddest shit known to man.
I want to punch pingpingpingpings in the head when they request that shit!
No taste what so ever!!!

Don't get me started on people saying 'play some hip hop' when i am actually playing something like (old) Mobb Deep or (old) Ice Cube or Lupe Fiasco or Jurrassic 5 etc...

People are dumb and ignorant.

Now I have had a little rant I would like to know if anybody is keen on getting some mix tapes off me?
HIP HOP mixtapes that is!
1983 to Present day - stuff I like and stuff you all will :)

Maybe I could upload them to a server for download?

I will be mixing them on the ones and twos and I think I have reasonable skills so let me know if anybody is keen and I will pull my finger out :)

Jordan.


DUDE !!!!

DO IT ... sell them off Nick Alexander spec :)

ILL TAKE TWO !!!

[TJ]

LOL not Alexander spec, not keen to see Jordan in Jail :D

[1JZNOSHIT]

id be keen too!, sounds bombed.

[ben351]

Jordan ... hit up some Hip Hop beats on a sunday at the Queens ... get a group going down there take that shit over

1600 doing skids out the front

represent !!!

[OLSKOOL1800]

Shit...
People already keen :)

I am trying to upload one now.
It is an old one i did for Nova (don't laugh) it is pretty much all Hip Hop.

Does anybody know a good website I can upload to.
I will only do 30 - 45 min mix tapes and I think??? this translates to around 400mb? Am I right?

I would also like to see if anybody knows how I can make covers and track listings for download or for production.

I won't try and make any cash off this stuff, I just want to do it for shits and giggles and get some REAL FUCKING MUSIC out there!

Jordan.

[ben351]

all that shit is easy to do man ...

ill help out where needed ... fucking love a good mix tape !!!

[TJ]

Burn it to a CD, ill collect and begin sharing the love :D

[ben351]

Ahhh ... TJ ... aka Mr " yeah i burnt it man but i left it at home "

[Syncope]

Hip Hop isn't dead, you're just not looking in the right places.

[OLSKOOL1800]

Hip Hop isn't dead, you're just not looking in the right places.

Ok Mate...
Inform me...
I know it was a broad statement thou...
I know what I like and I know what is out there. :)

BTW - One mix tape I am going to do is a "HIP HOP is DEAD Vol 1"

This will feature artists like:

Biggie Smalls
Big L
Tupac ( I don't really like his stuff but others do)
Jam Master Jay
Ol Dirty Bastard
Big Pun etc...

I think you guys get the idea :)
You know, artist who really are dead :(

Any others I should include?

[Joe]

Ahh Big Pun. Is he a player yet??? :D


I think you guys get the idea :)
You know, artist who really are dead :(

Any others I should include?

Eazy E

[OLSKOOL1800]

Eazy E

SHIT! Forgot about him...

Eazy Does It!!!!

Thanks mate :)

[ben351]

Big Pun was a fucking legend ...

" Packing a mac in the back of an Ack "

dude throw in some KRS One too ... Tribe Called Quest

[OLSKOOL1800]

Shit!
Now I am all pumped to get started on a tape but I have to head to the gym!
When I get back I will start cleaning my room up so I can start laying some shit down.

In the meantime, if anybody can find a website that will let me upload my tapes please let me know :)

They all seem to have a 200mb limit?
I think the mixes will be double that...

If you guys can help I am keen to do this just to make you all happy and to get the music I love out there :)

I am open to suggestions too...

I will probably make a thread in this section dedicated to the tapes if that is cool :)

Jordan.

[1JZNOSHIT]

Kid Rock & Vanilla Ice?

Did anyone like Mase, developed under Biggie and Puffy. Was big in late 90s early 00s. I got his first album, was decent. Cant remember what it was called though.

[Slip_]

Hip Hop isn't dead, you're just not looking in the right places.

Preach!

+1

[OneJ]

Biggie Smalls - Gimme the Loot - fucken best song.

[ben351]

Mase - Harlem World :)

Ohhh Mase i love you so never ever ever gonna let you go once i get my hands on youuuuu

[OLSKOOL1800]

Biggie Smalls - Gimme the Loot - fucken best song.

Agreed ;)
That will be on a tape for sure...
I love that shit...
Never get bored of a track like that...

[TJ]

Mase was average at best - become a puff daddy bitch.

[Joe]

Biggie Smalls - Gimme the Loot - fucken best song.

Ahh Stash, I knew you had taste son!

Motherfucking right, my pockets looking kind of tight. And Im stressed, yo biggie let me get the vest!

No need for that, just grab the fucking gat, the first pocket thats fat the tec is to his back!


The rhymes just kept on flowing in this song..

Nigga, pass that before you get your grave dug from the main thug, .357 slug and my nigga biggie got an itchy one grip

One in the chamber, 32 in the clip motherfuckers better strip, yeah nigga peel before you find out how blue steel feel!

[MMM]

jordan behind the decks 5 years ago at the leedy = best clubbing days ever

[Slip_]

Mase was average at best - become a puff daddy bitch.

My opinion on Mase is similar!

[TJ]

Just listening to "duets - the final chapper" by biggie 2005 -

One of the best CD's I ever genuinely bought :)

1970 something - verse 3

Now I'm 13 smokin' blunts, makin' green,
Or on the drug scene, fuck the football team,
Risk it, rupt ur spleens, by the age of 16,
Hearin' the coach scream, make my lifetime dream,
I mean, I wanna blow up, stack my doe up,
So school I didn't show up, and fuck my flow up,
Mom said that I should grow up, and check myself,
Before I wreck myself, disrespect myself,
Put the drugs on the shelf, naww! I couldn't see it,
Scarface king of New York, I wanna be it,
Rap was secondary, money was neccessary,
Untill I got encarcerated, kinda scarry,
See 74' march 8, set me straight, not able to move behind a great steal gate,
Time to contemplate, damn were did I fail,
All the money I stacked, was all the money for bail,


That shit brings a smile to my face. Fuck he was too good.

[1JZNOSHIT]

Busta Rhymes was pretty cool too.

again, back in the 90s he made some hard tracks.

[Slip_]

You guys have all heard the comission right?

Hove/Jigaa + Biggie's old tracks redubbed = JayZ + Big in a collab effort.

considering how hard some of you go on your big/pac/east coast west coast familia... i would've thought to have seen this mentioned...

Its allright, not true to events, but in terms of remix's... uber gritty.

[Slip_]

Busta Rhymes was pretty cool too.

again, back in the 90s he made some hard tracks.

Man, your on fire.

Busta Rhymes - Genesis... fucking magic... once again up in the top 50.

[TJ]

I had every one of Bustas albums, then they entire lot got stolen, never bothered to recover them..

I should.

[TJ]

JoshYouAre tsm. added a new profile song: Guillotine Swordz by Wu-Tang.

Hehehe :D

[1JZNOSHIT]

im going to go in to my theatre tonight and see what sh*t i havent listened to for a few years. few memories flowing back in this thread :)

[Slip_]

I had every one of Bustas albums, then they entire lot got stolen, never bothered to recover them..

I should.

I got most of em, dunno if i have it aint safe no more.

Next big cruise, i carry alot of em in my car.

[Slip_]

Hehehe :D

Is Hellz Windz Staff on that album? soooo gritty it makes my eyes bleed... almost...

[TJ]

im going to go in to my theatre tonight and see what sh*t i havent listened to for a few years. few memories flowing back in this thread :)

Quoted for truth :D

I got a smile on my face just from digging through this thread and some of my old music.

[OneJ]

Big L got a mention in here? I rate him higher than almost anyone.

Big L - Put it on

Big l is a crazy brother, and Im a lady lover
A smooth kid thatll run up in your baby mother

Big L, ft Kool G Rap - Fall Back

I cruise in a gs lex, cartier specs
Nautica sweats with the fresh gortex

Big L - Ebonics

Check it, my weed smoke is my lye
A ki of coke is a pie
When Im lifted, Im high
With new clothes on, Im fly
Cars is whips and sneakers is kicks
Money is chips, movies is flicks
Also, cribs is homes, jacks is pay phones
Cocaine is nose candy, cigarettes is bones
A radio is a box, a razor blade is a ox
Fat diamonds is rocks and jakes is cop
And if you got rubbed, you got stuck
You got shot, you got bucked
And if you got double-crossed, you got fucked
Your bankroll is your poke, a choke hold is a yoke
A kite is a note, a con is a okey doke
And if you got punched that mean you got snuffed
To clean is to buff, a bull scare is a strong bluff
A burglary is a jook, a woofs a crook
Mobb deep already explained the meanin of shook
If you caught a felony, you caught a f
If you got killed, you got left
If you got the dragon, you got bad breath
If you 730, that mean you crazy
Hit me on the hip means page me
Angel dust is sherm, if you got aids, you got the germ
If a chick gave you a disease, then you got burned
Max mean to relax, guns and pistols is gats
Condoms is hats, critters is cracks
The food you eat is your grub
A victims a mark
A sweat box is a small club, your tick is your heart
Your apartment is your pad
Your old man is your dad
The studio is the lab and heated is mad
he iron horse is the train and champaign is bubbly
A deuce is a honey thats ugly
If your girl is fine, shes a dime
A suit is a fine, jewelry is shine
If you in love, that mean you blind
Genuine is real, a face card is a hundred dollar bill
A very hard, long stare is a grill
If you sneakin to go see a girl, that mean you creepin
Smilin is cheesin, bleedin is leakin
Beggin is bummin, if you nuttin you comin
Takin orders is sunnin, an ounce of coke is a onion
A hotels a telly, a cell phones a celly
Jealous is jelly, your food box is your belly
To guerrilla mean to use physical force
You took a l, you took a loss
To show off mean floss, uh
I know you like the way Im freakin it
I talk with slang and ima never stop speakin it

[MMM]

heaps of great hip hop/rappers etc out there

just to name a few apart from the big players
nas, kurput, mephis bleek, nelly, obie trice, p diddy, lil jon, postaboy, jin, d12, rahzel, redman, method man, run dmc, styles P, T.I, talib kwali, terror squad, the roots, timberland, trick trick, twista, yukmouth , big PUN,


oh and get a song called black haze - let me holla at cha . and tell me thats not tupac!

[1JZNOSHIT]

Luniz - I Got 5 on It

Awesome song from the 90s.

[Joe]

oh and get a song called black haze - let me holla at cha . and tell me thats not tupac!

I got Blac Haze's album....sounds scarily like 2Pac!!

Fuck yer, Busta Rhymes...I'm rollin Genesis on my iPod :D

The Luniz reminds me of Yr 8 :D

[Syncope]

Ok Mate...
Inform me...
I know it was a broad statement thou...
I know what I like and I know what is out there. :)

BTW - One mix tape I am going to do is a "HIP HOP is DEAD Vol 1"

This will feature artists like:

Biggie Smalls
Big L
Tupac ( I don't really like his stuff but others do)
Jam Master Jay
Ol Dirty Bastard
Big Pun etc...

I think you guys get the idea :)
You know, artist who really are dead :(

Any others I should include?

Its all personal opinion, but there is enough out there for that to be regarded a pretty stupid comment. Jay Z is alive, he's dropped off from his former high levels, but can still match it with most, dead or alive. There is only one, MAYBE two artists that have been mentioned that could rival him or Nas.

Kanye is and has been killing it since College Dropout. Three classics and just about kills anything he gets on. There hasnt been anyone with his consistency since forever. What about Common? Lupe Fiasco? The Cool was brilliant, i'd go as far as classic, time will tell.

Pharoahe Monch delivered a top 10 album last year and put on one of the better shows of the year too at Good Vibes. Talib didnt do too bad either, many gems on there, Country Cousins is brilliant. What about the Roots? Had a listen to their Rising Down or the one before?

You're probably laughing off the South, but have you heard Rick Ross - Trilla? T.I.? Jeezy? Outkast, especially Andre 3000? Bun B?

New artists like Papoose, Saigon, Joell Ortiz have been creating mixtape buzz for a while and if you've heard some of their stuff you'd see where im coming from. Download the Bodega Chronicles and come back with the same opinion.

Have you had a listen to Clipse - Hell Hath or any of their mixtapes? What about the Cool Kids or anything a bit less mainstream like Cunninlynguists, Kidz in the Hall, move.meant or dead prez?

Thats pretty much off the top of my head and itunes list, i'm not trying to change your mind, but you seem to be living in the past and not willing to look past the obvious. I too know what i like and i guess i know whats out there.

[Halle Terry]

just started to listen to some binary star stuff, awesome shit

anyone else into it? little bit similar to nas, zion i, common etc

[OLSKOOL1800]

Its all personal opinion, but there is enough out there for that to be regarded a pretty stupid comment. Jay Z is alive, he's dropped off from his former high levels, but can still match it with most, dead or alive. There is only one, MAYBE two artists that have been mentioned that could rival him or Nas.

Kanye is and has been killing it since College Dropout. Three classics and just about kills anything he gets on. There hasnt been anyone with his consistency since forever. What about Common? Lupe Fiasco? The Cool was brilliant, i'd go as far as classic, time will tell.

Pharoahe Monch delivered a top 10 album last year and put on one of the better shows of the year too at Good Vibes. Talib didnt do too bad either, many gems on there, Country Cousins is brilliant. What about the Roots? Had a listen to their Rising Down or the one before?

You're probably laughing off the South, but have you heard Rick Ross - Trilla? T.I.? Jeezy? Outkast, especially Andre 3000? Bun B?

New artists like Papoose, Saigon, Joell Ortiz have been creating mixtape buzz for a while and if you've heard some of their stuff you'd see where im coming from. Download the Bodega Chronicles and come back with the same opinion.

Have you had a listen to Clipse - Hell Hath or any of their mixtapes? What about the Cool Kids or anything a bit less mainstream like Cunninlynguists, Kidz in the Hall, move.meant or dead prez?

Thats pretty much off the top of my head and itunes list, i'm not trying to change your mind, but you seem to be living in the past and not willing to look past the obvious. I too know what i like and i guess i know whats out there.

Mate, I totally agree with you...
I wanted to see what you thought was 'up'

Maybe it was a broad statement but most of the shit that is being churned out is just garbage and that is what the 'majority' of people listen to and regard as Hip Hop at the moment.

Common / Lupe / Rhymefest / Mos Def / Talib Kweli / Dead Prez etc etc...
Are all amazing but 'some people' just don't get it. ;)

I'm not living in the past at all mate, I am probably more up to speed on music than the average person - afterall, it is my job.

It just seems that it is quantity rather than quality at the moment.

The list I wrote is for a particular mix tape not my only taste btw...

I actually don't like most of the stuff from down south much but the artists you have mentioned do all have their merits and I either have their stuff on 12inch or on a cd....

You seem pretty clued up on the music scene champ but I feel as if you think I know fuck nothing. ;)
Wrong guy...

[OneJ]

Syncope - i'm liking some of saigons stuff.
Haha hell he even cameoed on entourage, gotta be good for his career haha.

Bit off topic sort of... i wouldn't consider it classic hip hop per se but uk hip hop... anyone digging that?

Braintax, taskforce, skinnyman, rodney p, roots manuva, jehst etc.... dizzee rascals older stuff
If you into this get Louis Slipperz - £10 vol I and II - you won't be disappointed

[1JZNOSHIT]

Fugees - The Score
Killarmy - Silent Weapons 4 Quiet Wars
Mack 10 - Paper Route
Fat Joe - J.O.S.E
Nelly - Country Grammar
Mystical - Tarantula
Biggie - Life After Death
Ice T - Home Invasion
Xzibit - Restless
One Million Strong - Various Artists

Just a few from 10 or so yrs ago that have some killa tracks.

Jeezy and T.I are awesome, agree with you there Syncope.

[Joe]

Southern hip-hop is fucking brilliant.

P.S. any Three-6 Mafia fans here?

[1JZNOSHIT]

Southern hip-hop is fucking brilliant.

P.S. any Three-6 Mafia fans here?


Tear Da Club Up, the best sh*t! haha

[TJ]

Three 6 mafia! Fark going back a while!

[Syncope]

Even the new stuff isn't that bad. Stay Fly is legendary.

REVOLUTION, i wasn't having a go mate, you just seemed really biased in earlier posts thats all. It is all about quantity, thats what happens when it becomes even beyond mainstream, but nearly a way of life. Every second person can have a single thanks to myspace, youtube and the general demise of society.

OneJ, nice UK selection there. Not really a fan of Dizzee, i'm pissed off because he took off a lot of shine from Kano. Though slightly different, i'd stick Mike Skinner in that lot too. You heard Karl Hinds? Jehst is just the master. Skinnyman Council Estate of Mind was one of the better records at the time it came out too. When will he ever follow it up.

[1JZNOSHIT]

What about crunk style stuff? mainly later artists, some of it is alright though.

artists like 3 6 mafia, lil jon & eastside boys, petey pablo, project pat etc. anyone listen to that?

[SSICK]

HELLLL YEAH :D

Holiday, such a bombed summer track :)


worlds best lyric in that song

"i dig a vagina like a coal miner" you cant teach that shit!

[OneJ]

OneJ, nice UK selection there. Not really a fan of Dizzee, i'm pissed off because he took off a lot of shine from Kano. Though slightly different, i'd stick Mike Skinner in that lot too. You heard Karl Hinds? Jehst is just the master. Skinnyman Council Estate of Mind was one of the better records at the time it came out too. When will he ever follow it up.

Mmm looks like you've given me some names for homework haha hopefully soulseek should have alot of them. Or is soulseek not the go anymore for decent harder to get albums?

[Brockas]

Kanye is and has been killing it since College Dropout. Three classics and just about kills anything he gets on. There hasnt been anyone with his consistency since forever. What about Common? Lupe Fiasco? The Cool was brilliant, i'd go as far as classic, time will tell.

Couldn't agree with you more. Even though Kanye, Common, and Lupe have become pretty popular, it doesn't change the music they make. It shouldn't make a difference if the artist is in the Top 100 or not, should just be focusing on good music (just so happens a lot of 'good music' never makes it to the charts).

One of my favourite tracks when I was younger was Eazy E - Boyz in the Hood, so raw, but such a bombed flow. Might be another to add to the "Hip Hop is Dead" idea...

[TJ]

Mobb Deep - Blood money - highly recomended its his 2006 album.

[Boza]

Mobb Deep - Blood money - highly recomended its his 2006 album.

got it, few good tracks in it...;)

[TJ]

Put em in their place is hard :)


Yo, I was schooled by the hood, raised by the wolves
Trained by the pain, adopted by guerillas
Gotta tank for a car, ice for a arm
Got tattoos wit' skin and scars from brawls
Gotta buildin' for a crib, Manhattan for a backyard
Skyscraper ladies, they fuck me when they man gone
Kings of New York, I'm one of the few of those
Difficulties to come, it's gon' be funerals
You get a quiet spot in the shade, for a grave
I get paid, 'cause I got murder 'fore sixteen
And I'm so much rich, I got a condo for a piggy bank
So much stash, I just laugh at yo' face
Blow a stack on David, 'cause I'ma pyro
Maniac from carriage, wit' the Rolls Gold
I was told by the O.G.'s like my Pops
If you can't whip they ass, then niggaz get shot (shot, shot)

Gonna have a party for a bit of a party tune with some dirty flow

Pearly Gates for something with meaning etc.

Still - just had shook ones on - classic :)

[Joe]

What about crunk style stuff? mainly later artists, some of it is alright though.

artists like 3 6 mafia, lil jon & eastside boys, petey pablo, project pat etc. anyone listen to that?

Project Pat ftmfw.

Good googly moogly, that thang is juicy :)

Look it up on Youtube, the video clip makes ya wanna bounce :D


Still - just had shook ones on - classic :)

The song gives me tingles every time I hear it....so good.

[Joe]

P.S. Three-6 Mafia - Ridin Spinnaz, is so fucking dope :) Lil flip remix is awesome too.

Older people trippin cos they think they seein things, my car sittin still but my rims still rollin, man they off the chain!

[1JZNOSHIT]

P.S. Three-6 Mafia - Ridin Spinnaz, is so fucking dope :) Lil flip remix is awesome too.

F*ck yeah, all these songs i havent heard for ages! so many new MP3 CDs to make....

[Joe]

You can make an entire CD just on songs about cars or related to cars :D

2Pac - Picture Me Rollin
Three-6 Mafia - Ridin Spinnaz
Cadillac Don - Peanut Butter and Jelly
Rich Boy - Throw Some D's (a lot of people hate this song, but the remix with Andre 3000, Jim Jones, Nelly, Murphy Lee, the Game, and Lil Jon is fucking fantastic)
Eazy E - Automobile
Sir Mix-a-lot - Testarossa
Sir Mix-a-lot - My Hooptie
Slim Thug - Woodgrain Wheel

Thats just off the top of my head :)

[Slip_]

Big L, man cant aggree more, many dismiss his content however theres always been something very raw about his delivery. Alot of my collection is radio sessions and mix's. Shame he didnt get a chance to create more as he matured.

Cormega... if you like Big L look into Cormega. Epic sounds. Very NY.


Pharoahe Monch delivered a top 10 album last year and put on one of the better shows of the year too at Good Vibes. Talib didnt do too bad either, many gems on there, Country Cousins is brilliant. What about the Roots? Had a listen to their Rising Down or the one before?

Cant fail to appreciate his consistent success throughout the years, speaks for itself. Pretty much up there



You're probably laughing off the South, but have you heard Rick Ross - Trilla? T.I.? Jeezy? Outkast, especially Andre 3000? Bun B?

Goodie Mob, Nappy Roots, Dungoun (sp?) family, Master P, C - Murder (meh) etc. Outkask are pretty much even with goodie mob in my books for #1 from the south. Never got into T.I, but ive never been into that sound. Got Rick Ross's latest in my car right now from a mate... not my thing.

You pointed me on cunninlynguists last time on oink, been havin a good listen since. Well eloquent lads.

As Fc3srx7 touched upon, NAS is a essential to ones listening.



Braintax, taskforce, skinnyman, rodney p, roots manuva, jehst etc.... dizzee rascals older stuff
If you into this get Louis Slipperz - £10 vol I and II - you won't be disappointed

Definately the rest. Not soo much Dizzy :p

Rootsmanuva is in his own, but struggling to build beyond his first sounds IMO. Brand New Second Hand... yehbombed.

Plan B, look into him. A bit dark but nice through a decent sound system and not bad for a quick listen.

Jehst is pretty much #1 for UK sounds ive been exposed to. Undeniably running the show.

Lewis Parker would have to be my #2 , Kashmere, Klanshnekoff (sp? the gun) , alot of the UK does it for me atm.

Fuggee's the Score is just simply awesome. probably something i'd play to someone who's never heard hip hop. unbelievable album.

In short, pre 90's listening from me:
- EPMD
- Slick Rick
- MF Doom
- KRS One

theres just too much from the 90's to pick from. Big, WU , NAS, Snoop, Dre, even eminem has some decent mix tapes. Mobb Deep, Big L , cormega, JayZ , Dead Prez, OutKast, Trible Called Quest, The Roots... the foundations of the 90's are just massive.

Recently Cali has been too much but Aesop Rock, Planet Asia are still very regular artist in my listening.

RZA, GZA, ODB, Method/The Iron Lung, Redman and Ghostface Killa However, cannot be touched in my books... Most of WU familia does it for me... but the above mentioned just dominate my collection. I thought i would grow out of Wu Tang after this many years... not quite.

Touching upon Big and 2pac, i love Big.. again uncontested as the King of NY by my books. but 2pac never did it for me. Gifted and overal a madcvnt. He became hard overnight.

2pac was alot less without the beef/east coast west coast gig and overall running the G-Rap Genre. He thrived on the hype, and would be alot less without it.
BigE was the King of the east. Tried and tested. He sold drugs AND was lyrically supreme. When he was 17. at 17 Pac was dressed as a female acting out shakespere in drama classes.

Two cvnts got shot... thats what happened.

Good threads these but easy to get carried away.

[Adr3naL1N]

three 6 mafia are the shit

juicy j in their new song lolli fkn kills it

not to mention trakcs like, ridnin spinners and the killa track "stay fly" also side 2 side feat bow wow and project pat is bombed!

download some dj rectangle mixtapes even thou alot is kool edit stil bombed to listen to and lots of old skool beats
theses ones by rectangle

turntable apocalypse
big adventure
kill steelz vol 1 and 2
6 million dollar hand
scratch inferno.

few of my fav classic albums i have
xzibit - 40 days 40 nights
ice cube - war n peace part 2 (the peace disc)
ja rule - venni vetti vecci
dmx - then there was x
public enemy - he got game
nas - illmatic
outlawz - novakane
2pac - greatest hits

probs more but i cant think too tired atm

its def a diff style these days but there is still alot of good rap coming out, it is on different level i agree, not the same style but still alot of it is good.

some good djs bringing out alot of good colabo's

dj khaled ft trick daddy, rick ross & plies - im so hood
dj khaled feat akon, ti fat joe rick ross lil wayne & birdman - we takin over
dj drama feat nelly, young joc, twista, young jeezy - 5000 ones
dj felli fel ft diddy, akon lil jon and ludacris - get buck in here

few newer songs that have come out i like are

2 pistols - she got it
dolla feat t pain - who the fuck is that
david banner feat chris brown - get like me
fat joe feat plies - aint sayin nothin
lil wayne ft birdman - pop bottles
nelly - party people (for the chopped and screwed voices in the verses...when the slow the voices down like they do in alot of songs these days, so bombed)
huey - tell me (the g5 remix)
play n skillz feat nate dogg - do me
play n skillz feat lil jon, bun b and krayzie bone - one mo gin (steals daft punk one more time)

play n skillz are bombed

[TJ]

C - Murder (meh) etc.

One of my all time favourite rap songs is C-Murder and Snoop Dogg - down for my niggas - one of the hardest songs ever.

Just the way its delivered. Go find it.

[Slip_]

Mmm looks like you've given me some names for homework haha hopefully soulseek should have alot of them. Or is soulseek not the go anymore for decent harder to get albums?

SoulSeek's still good. Have to dig around. I think more specific threads in the future discouraging opinions and off topic comments would be a good place for us all to keep updated and satisfied. If the mods catch that. just smash up a Macro for recommendations for us all to follow as rough rules. As opposed to these general threads.

Oink still running Syncope? i moved house, lost my connection. Account fell to shit. Doesn't seem to be running anymore? i mean... there is no fight club... anymore?

these threads come up once in a while... everyone goes crazy reliving the memories... heaps of good recommendations get looked over in the process.

Recommendations Thread + Basic Layout + Limited comments rule = ftw!

[1JZNOSHIT]

One of my all time favourite rap songs is C-Murder and Snoop Dogg - down for my niggas - one of the hardest songs ever.

Just the way its delivered. Go find it.


Thug Luv - Bone Thugs ft. 2pac <--- hard song!

[Slip_]

One of my all time favourite rap songs is C-Murder and Snoop Dogg - down for my niggas - one of the hardest songs ever.

Just the way its delivered. Go find it.

Done. I'll Get back to you. Cant say ive heard it.

[TJ]

SoulSeek's still good. Have to dig around. I think more specific threads in the future discouraging opinions and off topic comments would be a good place for us all to keep updated and satisfied. If the mods catch that. just smash up a Macro for recommendations for us all to follow as rough rules. As opposed to these general threads.

Oink still running Syncope? i moved house, lost my connection. Account fell to shit. Doesn't seem to be running anymore? i mean... there is no fight club... anymore?

these threads come up once in a while... everyone goes crazy reliving the memories... heaps of good recommendations get looked over in the process.

Recommendations Thread + Basic Layout + Limited comments rule = ftw!

If its ok with the messiah, i might set up something between a few of where we can organise to share some of our collections - id love to bolster my collection, especially after reading this all day and remembering some fantastic music i no longer have.

[Slip_]

Sounds like a plan!

[TJ]

Dont think its best to discuss publicly... last thing Brockbank needs is a writ and or lawsuit to shut the site down because we are publicly organising to pirate music etc... ill suss something tomorrow.

[Brockas]

few of my fav classic albums i have
ja rule - venni vetti vecci

Agreed!!!

Big fan, but unfortunately it's the only Ja Rule album I like...

[Syncope]

Ah man, have a listen to R.U.L.E. It's quite good, didn't sell, but very decent and underrated. Have a go at "Where im from" with Lloyd and see if you like it and go from there.

Anyway, i've decided to make my own mixtape, kinda laid back mixtape, what i grew up with really. Bit of a sampler. Its not mixed or anything but its 20 classics and i wasted like 15 minutes creating the torrent for it, so give it a go.

http://www.mininova.org/tor/1426417

Disclaimer: Please delete 24 hours after download and/or buy their CD's.

[Slip_]

haha "Fuck them other nigga's cos im dying for my nigga's" x 50.

Finally tracked it down and downloaded. Sounded familiar.

He's a angry angry man. I fully appreciate he's one of the few full blown ghetto rappers thats managed to stay alive and rich... but he's fukn ghetto.

His Relative, uncle i think? Master P, is a dirty south legend. Bigger than East/West blowup was to the north... but in the filthiest hardest slums in the south.

Youtube C-murder - CP3 calliope projects... gun fights, bulk interviewee's die by the time the documentary is finished production... its pretty bullshit.

[Brockas]

Ah man, have a listen to R.U.L.E. It's quite good, didn't sell, but very decent and underrated. Have a go at "Where im from" with Lloyd and see if you like it and go from there.

Anyway, i've decided to make my own mixtape, kinda laid back mixtape, what i grew up with really. Bit of a sampler. Its not mixed or anything but its 20 classics and i wasted like 15 minutes creating the torrent for it, so give it a go.

http://www.mininova.org/tor/1426417

Disclaimer: Please delete 24 hours after download and/or buy their CD's.

Some quality tracks on that torrent!

DMX - Slippin
Last Emperor - One Life
Xzibit - Paparazzi

Haven't heard them in years, and still love 'em...

[ben351]

DMX - slippin ... nice choice brockbank i heart that song !!
and Xzibit - paparazzi fucking bombed !!!!

[TJ]

haha "Fuck them other nigga's cos im dying for my nigga's" x 50.

Finally tracked it down and downloaded. Sounded familiar.

He's a angry angry man. I fully appreciate he's one of the few full blown ghetto rappers thats managed to stay alive and rich... but he's fukn ghetto.

His Relative, uncle i think? Master P, is a dirty south legend. Bigger than East/West blowup was to the north... but in the filthiest hardest slums in the south.

Youtube C-murder - CP3 calliope projects... gun fights, bulk interviewee's die by the time the documentary is finished production... its pretty bullshit.


Like I said its delivery is pure anger - even the trumpets blaring at the start shows its intentions.

Got it on my phone, gets a play here and there.

I really dont rate master p.

[Adr3naL1N]

daz - in california

bombed old skool song!! find it!

[OneJ]

Xzibit papparazi - i pay that highly!

[1JZNOSHIT]

daz - in california

bombed old skool song!! find it!

very old, very bombed!

+ 2

[OLSKOOL1800]

After reading TJ's point, can I get in the shit if I provide a link to a mixtape online?
Even if it is for my own dj promotional purposes?
For work etc etc...

Jordan.

[TJ]

Yeah ... id be linking people I trust, or hosting it annonomously.

[OLSKOOL1800]

Yeah ... id be linking people I trust, or hosting it annonomously.

SHIT!
I thought so...
That was on my mind last night...
I guess we can work something out - this thread was motivating me to do some of my own stuff again...

I still can't find a hosting site big enough anyway and I asked before (Ben offered to help) about making covers and shit.
Is there a program for this? Something simple?
Somebody told me that office works had somenthing to do cd's semi professionally ;)

[WRCjosh]

man i cant stand that crunk rap shit. Every pingpingpingpings name is cash money, new money, old money, money money. Its just repetitive shit put to a banger beat. Sure, all good when your maggot out at a club and wanna fuck around, but as far as musical talent go's, FAIL!

[TJ]

SHIT!
I thought so...
That was on my mind last night...
I guess we can work something out - this thread was motivating me to do some of my own stuff again...

I still can't find a hosting site big enough anyway and I asked before (Ben offered to help) about making covers and shit.
Is there a program for this? Something simple?
Somebody told me that office works had somenthing to do cd's semi professionally ;)

Depends how big a crowd you want to get it out to...

If its 400mb - burn it to a CD - pass it on , and let the social network of the world do its work.

[ben351]

man i cant stand that crunk rap shit. Every pingpingpingpings name is cash money, new money, old money, money money. Its just repetitive shit put to a banger beat. Sure, all good when your maggot out at a club and wanna fuck around, but as far as musical talent go's, FAIL!

CASH MONEY NIGGAH !!!

i like the Master P period that went about a few years back ... all his No Limit Soilders looked like there CD covers where done on Adobe Photoshop hahahaha it was hilarious

saying that Master P - Burbons and Lacs is one of my all time fav songs !!!

[1JZNOSHIT]

Make Em say Ughhhhhh!

Master P was cool back in the day. Sillk the Shocker and Mystical were decent too.

[TJ]

Mystical !

Shake ya ass, but watch yourself, Shake ya ass, show me what u workin with!

[Slip_]

Like I said its delivery is pure anger - even the trumpets blaring at the start shows its intentions.

Got it on my phone, gets a play here and there.

I really dont rate master p.

Fkn hard like you said.

good choice for a ringtone!


man i cant stand that crunk rap shit. Every pingpingpingpings name is cash money, new money, old money, money money. Its just repetitive shit put to a banger beat. Sure, all good when your maggot out at a club and wanna fuck around, but as far as musical talent go's, FAIL!

Preach!

[OneJ]

Talking about angry niggas - MOP - Ante Up

Fuck that older one got that "you gonna get raped" face

[TJ]

MOP Cold as ice is pretty hard, even though the backing vocals sound like a 12 year girl.

[TJ]

Fuck and another - Biggie smalls and Jay Z - Brooklyns Finest - I downloaded this by accident in a tute at uni in 2001 - love it.

[Slip_]

Fuck and another - Biggie smalls and Jay Z - Brooklyns Finest - I downloaded this by accident in a tute at uni in 2001 - love it.

Awesome Track.

Another awesome Jigga and Big Collab - 'New York, New York'

Have Big and Method - 'The What' - Playing right now...

I gotta share Biggie's opening verse if you dont know it. Fuck he was a madcvnt...


[Notorious B.I.G.]
I used to get feels on a bitch
Now I throw shields on the dick
To stop me from that HIV shit
And niggaz know they soft like a Twinkie filling
Playin the villian
Prepare for this rap killin
Biggie Smalls is the illest
Your style is played out, like Arnold wondered
"What you talkin bout Willis?"
The thrill is gone, the black Frank White
is here to excite and
throw dick to dykes
Bitches I like em brainless
Guns I like em stainless steel
I want the fuckin Fortune like the Wheel
I squeeze gats till my clips is empty
Don't tempt me [T-H-O-D
Man] You don't want to fuck with Biggie


One of my favourite Big Verses of all time.

[Slip_]

MOP, fark havent listened to in ages.


MOP Cold as ice is pretty hard, even though the backing vocals sound like a 12 year girl.

haha yeh i think they sped up the original sample by "the foreingers" (sp?). They went hard on the chipmunk samples ol MOP.

[Slip_]

Ah man, have a listen to R.U.L.E. It's quite good, didn't sell, but very decent and underrated. Have a go at "Where im from" with Lloyd and see if you like it and go from there.

Anyway, i've decided to make my own mixtape, kinda laid back mixtape, what i grew up with really. Bit of a sampler. Its not mixed or anything but its 20 classics and i wasted like 15 minutes creating the torrent for it, so give it a go.

http://www.mininova.org/tor/1426417

Disclaimer: Please delete 24 hours after download and/or buy their CD's.

Ive got the slowest kb rate on this one.

That list is fucking well rounded:
Masta Ace
Scarface
Last Emporer
50cent
Dmx
Onyx
Dead Prez
Juice
Cunninlynguists
X
Method aka Johnny Blaze
Cormega
Big Pun
Nas
Az
Killer Mike

Crash course in the foundations right there.

[OneJ]

Ive got the slowest kb rate on this one.

I just jumped back on to seed.

Not so gangsta related but hip hop like pharcyde, ATCQ, hieroglyphics, souls of mischief etc... used to love all this shit back in my skating days. Alot of quality songs on skate vids haha

No doubt everyone has heard of the abovementioned... how fucken good

Haha i just listened to Ice Cube - Today was a good day ... such a laid back song
Gangstarr - Above the clouds
Rawkus - A tree never grown
Fonky Family - La Furie At la Foie
Akrobatik - Remind my soul
Arsonists - Backdraft
Artifacts - To ya Chest
Big L - Flamboyant
Biggie ft Eminiem - Dead Wrong also Things Done Changed .. fucking amazing track
Bizzie Bone - Fried Day
Mos Def Talib Kweli - K.O.S.
Common ft Talib Gangstarr - Still
Funkdoobiest - Lost in Thought
Funkmaster Flex - MOP ft Busta - Ante Up rmx

haha just a few tracks i thought were worth a mention

[Joe]

I'll download then I'll leave my PC on to seed for 24 hours or so, so everyone can get it.

Can't wait :D

[s13-steve]

who thinks detox is coming out this year? whats your source ?
i highly doubt it is as far as i no there has been no official announcement for its release this year

[1JZNOSHIT]

Canibus - Get Retarded
Akinyele - Put It In Your Mouth
Chamillionaire ft. Slick Rick - Hip Hop Police
Gravediggaz - Nowhere To Run, Nowhere To Hide
Gravediggaz - Bang Your Head
Ice Cube ft. Snoop & Lil Jon - Got To Church
Juvenile - Back That Azz Up
Master P - I Got The Hook Up
NWA - Fuck That Police
Rick Ross ft. T-Pain - The Boss
Silkk The Shocker ft. Mystical - It Aint My Fault
T.I ft. Chingy - 24s
Trick Daddy ft. Lil Jon & Twista - Lets Go
Weapon X & Ken Hell - Drive It Like Its Hot
Snoop Dogg ft. Young Jeezy - Wanna Be's

A few phat tracks I got.

Also, has anyone listened to any Horrocore stuff, like ICP or Twiztid etc? A bit out of left field, very violent lyrics but some pretty hard hitting beats.

I have the ICP album somewhere, "The Amazing Jeckyl Brothers". The lyrics are, at times, comical. Worth a listen if you get the time to download them, rather humorous!

ICP ft. ODB - Bitches
ICP - Fuck The World
ICP - Another Love Song
ICP - Terrible
ICP - Assassins
ICP - Nothings Left

[OneJ]

I personally dislike icp....
If you want to listen to legitimate hardcore hip hop look up a pingpingpingping called necro. Loves singing about stealing girls off the streets, putting them in his dungeon and doing fucked up shit. He's a weird pingpingpingping but he's got a small following.

Necro - White Slavery

Woman need to be loved, injected with needles and drugs
subjected to torture and kidnapped they need us to cum
it's proven, I feed em dog food, they prefer human
make 'em savagely beat each other bloody for my amusement
It's all fun and games, I keep 'em handcuffed in chains
sexually make 'em do the most disgusting things
starve 'em to cannibals, make 'em eat each others brains
changed and deranged, stores begin to seem like nothings strange
while retarded acquaintances get fist fucked and raped
covered in lighter fluid, lit up and ingulfed in flames
sound proof walls guarantee to muffle your screams
squirm on a shit stained mattres in a puddle of pee


Drop a skid deluca.

[1JZNOSHIT]

I personally dislike icp....
If you want to listen to legitimate hardcore hip hop look up a pingpingpingping called necro. Loves singing about stealing girls off the streets, putting them in his dungeon and doing fucked up shit. He's a weird pingpingpingping but he's got a small following.

d/loaded Necro - Our Life, pretty cool shite and Murder Ya Life, rapped over a famous Dr Dre/Eminem beat. very cool.

[OneJ]

Haha you sicko. Not my cup of tea but yeh

If you like his stuff his brother (yeh i think its his real brother) also does similar shit - Ill Bill

[1JZNOSHIT]

haha, those ones i d/loaded were pretty tame compared to that White Slavery shit you posted you cooker!

i just found my Kottonmouth Kings album, why the f*ck did i buy that....

[Boza]

anyone else here a fan of old too short ?

havent heard him get a mention in here unless im blind...

[OneJ]

DJ Babu - Duck Season I and II
Get those two albums. Just download it pingpingpingpings. It's the guru shit.

[Adr3naL1N]

anyone else here a fan of old too short ?

havent heard him get a mention in here unless im blind...


I go on and on
Can't understand how I last so long
I must have super powers
Rap 225 thousand hours
Get it calculated do the math
I made 1,000 songs that made you move your ass
And for the last 300 months
I made 16 albums with me on the front and the bump
Where you get your beats?
I heard 93 rappers say bitch like me
2 singers and 10 comedians
And I'm still gon' yell it every time you see me in
What's my favorite word?
BEEATCH!
Why they gotta say it like $hort?
BEEATCH!
You know they can't play on my court
Can't hang with the big dogs
Stay on the porch


Love that verse

[Slip_]

haha, those ones i d/loaded were pretty tame compared to that White Slavery shit you posted you cooker!

i just found my Kottonmouth Kings album, why the f*ck did i buy that....

LOL @ kottonmouth Kings

Necro - Talented and pretty much the angriest cvnt around lol... in a perverted sense. Done some good collabs... but rhyming about how to cook and eat a cvnt... lol

OneJ - Dj Babu for the win. Amongst the rest of the world famous beat junkies crew.

Havent heard of old too short, will have a look.

[Syncope]

Yep, Necro is a bit.. you know. Ill Bill is pretty good too, but they all peaked with Non Phixion - the Future is now. One brilliant album, Necro produces as well as Pete Rock, Premier, Large Professor and JuJu.

Will never know how they got them to produce for a bunch of crazy unknown white guys.

[Endless]

I know someone mentioned Bone Thugs 'N' Harmony, came across them going through all my older cd's due to reading this thread and came across East 1999 eternal etc.. listening to the tracks again, all so good!

Atmosphere been mentioned yet? Bombed

[TJ]

Bump - found an old CD well worth a download.

The Wash soundtrack - bit of snoop, dre, etc. etc.

[ben351]

worst cd ever man

[DRKWRX]

haha the wash is good! i got it somwhere around, movie is funny as.

[Halle Terry]

THREAD REVIVAL

Good hip hop sounds like this shit, and yeah anything Dre comes out with, Still D.R.E, the watcher, any nas stuff too

to get an idea of what ive badly described, songs like this

- What i really like is DJ premier stuff, really nice beats

Nas is like... - Nas

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8rBTJ-P6LHU

Watch how it go down - Termanology

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDIe0_UoLlg&NR=1

Reality Check - Verbal threat

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QHJ8jHmQhC8

that song reality check is incredible good

Playas club - rappin 4 tay,

enough said

[GA70TT]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=487W_vBeGFQ&feature=related

aristo !!