Head Machine Shop NOR?

[radddavey]

What's a good head machine shop NOR that'll do a good job and reasonably priced? Just need the head decked and some welds.

[Denver]

Harris engineering in osbourne park..

[S133LTR]

performance modifications - ozzy park

[TURBORX]

Ill second harris engines
good bloke mark i think

[Brockas]

Applied Automotive

Did my head, decked, fitted guides, fitted cams + springs, $1100.

Turn around was 3 days!!

Can't go wrong with that.

[joshg123]

What you meen 'did your head' paul?

Porting or just a vacume, skim, stem seals and reassemble?

[Brockas]

No porting.

[Marti]

Head Torque in Osbourne Park

[radddavey]

Harris Quoted $65 for decking and around $20-$30 per weld (for water galleries). I'll drop it off there, the guy seemed nice on the phone.

[lazy6]

i would say headtorque .gerry n sabo top blokes
harris engines ron n mark run a good show
and performance mods if you want experience speek to danny

[GA70TT]

ill put my hand up for harris engineering aswell....gone there 2wice with no probs at all ....

[iluv2moan]

ranch did mine

decked it - 2 spots needed welded, installed new valve guides and seated valves

i put my own cams in

from memory, they charged me $180 or $280

brockas - they must have knew u had ya dads credit card in ya wallet

oh and they took 3 days also

[Brockas]

brockas - they must have knew u had ya dads credit card in ya wallet

Yeh.... ok. My dad doesn't pay for fucall.

Jealousy's a bitch aint it. :rolleyes:

[iluv2moan]

so many more things id be jealous over then paying $1100 to get my head decked.........


.......such as mu53wa's USA holiday

[joshg123]

Head Torque in Osbourne Park

I Would go there for standard skimming and work to that effect but not peformance.

Either ranch or peformance mods gets my vote. I use ranch for my blocks and cranks for the workshop, peformance mods for all my personal motors i build and head torque for all my heads at the workshop.

All do good work, however i believe head torque to be a little pricey for what your getting.

If you want a bloody good job at a decent rate out east, motteram motors - lindsay. He does all my personal motors heads. In midland.

[S133LTR]

jerrys a nice guy but im wit josh123... hes abit pricey and more likely to be at home facing heads and cleaning up seats than flow tested performance work.

if its SR?? try finding out who used was/is doing hyperdrives head work... did a glamour for my mate including comb chamber chamfers and oil gallery grub scews... it was squeaky clean to.

[radddavey]

any of these places open saturdays? Harris isn't and its too hard for me to drop it off during the week. I couldn't find motteram motors in the yellowpages or any where.

[Tocchi]

Applied Automotive

Did my head, decked, fitted guides, fitted cams + springs, $1100.

Turn around was 3 days!!

Can't go wrong with that.

they are in Bentley right?
if thats the place, i got them to: deck, hone and acid bath my block. i think it cost me $50.

[lazy6]

ranch trained sabo and ron from harris n harris trained gerry but i would say harris does top work and hes starting to get back into performance
and with gerry ive helped them a few times movin stuff from the old place to the new place up the road from harris and that place is amazing the new set up
i would choose headtorque over anyone

[joshg123]

Oh no doubt head torque is one of the best around, there is no disputing that.

I personally believe that there are some other specialist places out there that can extract more from a head at a cheaper rate thats all.

For all normal work i believe head torque to be superior.

Applied automotives can have a habit of 'forgetting' to do jobs, ive been stung bad with this.

Motteram motors is a one man band, your gonna need to go see him to see the shop. Its in midvale, across the road from europe motors, and sort of behined veales.

[radddavey]

Took it to head torque because they are open saturdays. Really nice bunch of guys and they have a very good setup there. Anyway my head is toast (too cracked and has had too much material shaved off) so they are reconditioning another head for me and doing some valve and port work. Oh and they said the engine has been detonating.... hmmm this all happened on the dyno too.

Pm me if you know of a good wolf tuner.

[Brockas]

Took it to head torque because they are open saturdays. Really nice bunch of guys and they have a very good setup there. Anyway my head is toast (too cracked and has had too much material shaved off) so they are reconditioning another head for me and doing some valve and port work. Oh and they said the engine has been detonating.... hmmm this all happened on the dyno too.

Pm me if you know of a good wolf tuner.

We don't.

Sell Wolf, buy PFC.

[radddavey]

Can't, doesn't work with my engine.

[magic1]

Pm me if you know of a good wolf tuner.

no




Pm me if you know of a good wolf.

no

[GTRgav]

no



no

Umm......I can add to that......NO

[TJ]

Can't, doesn't work with my engine.

What engine?

[Joe]

from memory, they charged me $180 or $280

brockas - they must have knew u had ya dads credit card in ya wallet

oh and they took 3 days also

Thats about 5% of your 5k 10 second car.

Brockas' $1100 head work is about a 2.5% of his cars value.

Not to mention that most machine shops won't spend too much time on a 7M head, seeing as it'll be coming off every couple of thousand km anyway..

[Lonewolf]

What engine?

pulsar ET = e15et motor, no PFC available.

I'd sell the wolf and move to something like an EMS stinger or haltech/microtech if at all possible.
based on the dyno graphs of yours i saw, the motor combo looks good if it can be made reliable with a good tune.

[Joe]

The best tool for tuning your Wolf ECU is anything large and blunt that can be swung down with a lot of force.

[Brockas]

Wolf Self Tuning Tutorial:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niIgWV5Tfo0


Give it a watch and have a crack...

[radddavey]

HAHA cheers. Seriously i don't think the wolf is a bad ecu. I've had a play with it myself and i can't see why its a difficult ecu to tune. Once of course all the wiring and triggering is working correctly.

According to the wolf site Performance Unlimited are a tuner and there are a couple of others there. I'll just make up some DET cans and check for knock.

[iluv2moan]

Thats about 5% of your 5k 10 second car.

Brockas' $1100 head work is about a 2.5% of his cars value.

Not to mention that most machine shops won't spend too much time on a 7M head, seeing as it'll be coming off every couple of thousand km anyway..

brockas cars really worth 45k???

so whats your point anyway

should he be spending 9 times as much as me for anything to do with his car??

is this your way of justifying expensive services??

[CyberNetiC]

wow joe gets pissy real easy.

anyways, Harris Engines just rebuilt my 1J head, fella there is a champ, he's done all of the head work ive had done, (1G head, an 18RG head, a 3SFE head, a 3SGTE head, a 7M head and a 1JZ now)

new valve stem seals, valve seats re cut, decked, acid dipped, bead blasted and re-shimmed cost $550.

[Joe]

I get pissy because all day I deal with fuckheads at work, and all night I deal with fuckheads on Antilag :)

[Brockas]

should he be spending 9 times as much as me for anything to do with his car??

Did you need your head machined to accept high lift cams etc?

Pipe down muppet.

[CyberNetiC]

I get pissy because all day I deal with fuckheads at work, and all night I deal with fuckheads on Antilag :)

i got to that point ages ago, decided to stop giving a fuck, works wonders dude, just remember that the net is the easiest way to mistunderstand and overreact to things said, done, and implied.

whether it be you or Chris.

Brockas, hes not a muppet, he was at mine on saturday, i swear, no strings attached.

[Brockas]

Brockas, hes not a muppet, he was at mine on saturday, i swear, no strings attached.

I know Chris, I've met him a fair few times in person. Face to face he's a decent bloke, but for some reason he becomes fuckhead #1 when he's behind a keyboard.

[cplagz]

CGC in osb park

[iluv2moan]

I was having a light hearted dig at brockas

joe made the big scene of it

anyway..on with the topic of head machine shops NOR

[CyberNetiC]

I know Chris, I've met him a fair few times in person. Face to face he's a decent bloke, but for some reason he becomes fuckhead #1 when he's behind a keyboard.

:)

more taking the piss out of him further, hence the no strings/marionette/muppet/lame gag :P

but yes, harris engine is teh shiznit, and the man can order a whole lot of shit in, and to top it off, hes a decent bloke.

[Sleekman]

all these machine shops work on bottom ends too?
ive been quoted just under 2k to
acid bath block
rebore
face block
grind crank
reseize rods
fit pistons to rod
and 8hrs labour to assemble the bottom end

is this reasonable?

[joshg123]

Not bad, most places will be at teh 8-100 per hour now. So yeh

[Brockas]

all these machine shops work on bottom ends too?
ive been quoted just under 2k to
acid bath block
rebore
face block
grind crank
reseize rods
fit pistons to rod
and 8hrs labour to assemble the bottom end

is this reasonable?

I had the work in bold done for $800, so $1200 to assemble (12 hours!) is a little bit steep.

I know Applied to bottom ends as well, so give them a shot before you go ahead.

[joshg123]

Yeh i vouch for applied, i send my built stuff to them.

Gotta keep on there back tho, they can forget things.

[Sleekman]

1 more thing guys,
rb bores are 86mm
i can source 86.5mm pistons but i can only find 86mm or 87mm headgaskets
which one do i go with? or do i need to find a set of 86 or 87mm pistons?
^^
newb thats not willin to pay 11-13k to a workshop for a rebuild

[datsqik]

the 87mm gasket is fine for 86 or 86.5 bore. You'll probably have to go at least 86.5 on the bore to get a clean straight round bore.

[Brockas]

1 more thing guys,
rb bores are 86mm
i can source 86.5mm pistons but i can only find 86mm or 87mm headgaskets
which one do i go with? or do i need to find a set of 86 or 87mm pistons?
^^
newb thats not willin to pay 11-13k to a workshop for a rebuild

datsquik beat me to it, 87mm will work perfectly.

You'll notice HKS only supply 87mm pistons, and only 87.5mm head gasket kits.

[Sleekman]

thanks guys!

[1JZVL]

i got applied aswell to do my 26 head, the thing wasnt too healthy - some bent valves, and received some 'piston bashing'... grrr...

anyways, they made way for bigger cams, didnt port it (porting is around a grand...... depending on how much gets done), basically reconditioned the 26 head, was also around the 1000 mark.

mind you.. it took some time, but im in no rush.

if u want a complete motor built with applied automotive though, sumtimes takes some time.

[Sleekman]

do you mean u get it back with bet valves or b4 u sent it in lol

i got quoted $1100 to pressure test and overhall my head

so all up im lookin 3k to get a motor built + parts cost

[Brockas]

Sounds about right. I set aside 2k for machining, then 1k for assembly if you don't do it yourself.

[1JZVL]

do you mean u get it back with bet valves or b4 u sent it in lol

i got quoted $1100 to pressure test and overhall my head

so all up im lookin 3k to get a motor built + parts cost

oh wauyty

woops drinkingbad.

i got it reconmditionjed for aroiund 1100./. i think it wqas that much i put intop petes (the old wise guy at appplieds_) bank account..

it didnt include valves.... wait.. i got them off a mate (UD LOSE i think.. and it didnt include the step 2 HKS camshafts etc etc etc etc etc thats needed once u use 'aggressive' cams).

it was just the 1100 for the recondition.

good considering how fucken shithouse my head was.....and yes... it didnt take too long... the boys at applied got it done quickly.just that if u want porting or fullengine rebuilds - itll take some time(and money) lol



in the end -

applied know what theyre doing,,,m, some bloody good motors have been built by them.... ;0


and u mentioned 3grand? thats not to do a head.... if that includes as u said - "a ,motor" thats okay? id do anything to have my motor rebuilt for $3,000 lol

[Sleekman]

$1000 machining (previous page)
$1100 overhaul head and pressure test
$1000 assembly (bottom end)
+ cost of parts
then put it back in myself

[joshg123]

where are u located dude?

[Sleekman]

perth city lol (literally)
ever seen an engine pulled out in an open car park? lol