Collie "G SPEED DRIFT COMP"

[GTS_313]

Had this passed on to me , is anyone from here heading down for a look ? would love to see gav down there :)

"G SPEED DRIFT COMP"

SUNDAY 20th JUNE
Spectators: FREE
ENTRY: $45 Competitors
LOCATION: Collie Motorplex
Time: 9:30am

*This will be a full day of DRIFT. No burnouts, no hot-laps.

Please contact G Speed to register-

G-Speed Performance and Tuning
84 Mummery Cres, Bunbury, WA, 6232
Ph: 08)97924611
Fax: 08)97924599
gspeed@gspeed.com.au
**Please forward to friends who may be interested

For the Perth boys and girls, we will be having a dyno-night
including a sausage sizzle the night before. $25. Please let your friends know.

[Dayzii]

hey did any one go?

[TJ]

Jimmah 1st

Roy from C-red 2nd

Adam 3rd

[mischief1]

congrats to Jimmaaaaaaaaaaah!

[FIL]

Just a couple of photos up from today....
http://www.HighOctanePhotos.com/GSpeed

Was a great day, congrats to the team who organised and ran the day, and also to not only Jimmah, Roy and Adam but to all the guys who turned up and basically drifted for a full day....

[upgarage]

I went along as a spectator and it was a bloody good day. :D

[TJ]

Shame about some of the dilemmas with cars, and the event organisers themselves. Was told I would be allowed to get close enough to safely film the cars, then found out this wasnt the case.

I had an awesome time, went out with jimmah badged and ken jaffey from hyperdrive ems. Thanks to them all, and i have to say personally it was a shame kens car died or he would have done really well. Shame also about gav and his box breaking, did well to try to make it up in Smitlers car, but not quite the same as his and you could tell.

Shame about some retard who scanned into the organisers channel and pretended to be a track official , you sir are a most quantified smoker of pole.

Awesome to see over 500 people there apparently, shows drift does have a future.

[GTS_313]

Awesome day !! Took forever to get started but well worth the wait when it all started happening.
Congrats to everyone for putting on a show that should get a lot of people talking and hopefully even bigger turn outs and support for the future of drifting .
The competitors put in a bucket load more effort and bucks of their own to make this show happen than the prize money reflected , I am more than happy to pay to spectate but I dont think these guys should have to pay to put on a show that makes the promoters money.
My suggestion would be Free entry to competitors , this will draw more drivers and bigger paying crowds !

To the promoter for future reference, Pull your head in and lose the attitude towards paying spectators , they aren't the enemy .

[Denver]

GTS, saddly free entry to competitiors can't really be a done thing, you need to cover insurance and costs, and on the off chance you won't have a crowd, you need to cover them somehow.. $45 for a comp however is dammc heap, and i happily handed over my fold..

i wasn't so impressed about the $5 entry fee for spectators, after being told on friday it wouldn't be enforced, after they only decided thursday to tell everyone, and after commenting that it was kinda dumb to tell people so late they needed to pay to egt in to watch said they wouldn't charge.. so what changed there...

as for the attittude towards spectators, the track has insurance, they need to look after that, they need to be able to say that if an incident occured, there was no spectators in a dangerous area, or that they hadn't made the best efforts to ensure that no one was standing in a dangerous place...

simple really, no insurance, no event, what would you prefer?, to listen and do as asked by the officials, or have no event at all because you figured standing where you liked was allowed despite being told otherwise..

[TJ]

Totally and utterly agree. I dont mind if the organisers make a little money, as they are a business not a charity, but not when they screw around paying spectators. Worse still, ones who ring to pre organise media coverage and are then screwed on the day.

[hks-s14]

TJ - once again as I said to you on the day, what was requested was done for your safety and the safety of others.

Maybe next time you could organise this better with the organisers and call them more than 1 day before the event, oh and get there before the event starts.

And why were paying spectators "screwed around"???

[WRCjosh]

mat i was MORE then dissapointed with your judging efforts!!! i wanted jumping around, screams of excitment in some unknown langauge and various hand waving gestures and u delivered none :(

Nar good work on the judging i think the right ppl won.

[GTS_313]

XRW , I think on reflection of the crowd that turned out there would have been more than enough bucks in the kitty to pay the competitors entry and insurance costs.
It really amazes me that when it comes to motor sport that you guys think putting your hands in your pockets to make promotors money is acceptable.
Think about anywhere else you go to be entertained like a concert , footy etc can you imagine the players having to pay to play ?? or metalica being asked to hand over a couple of g's to cover the events insurance?
In all other forms of entertainment comptetitors , players or whatever they are get payed to perform .

As for the attitude shown towards spectators and safe places to view from ,
This should have been sorted out before the event , the unsafe area's should have been taped off and sign posted as being off limits , not left until everyone found a great place to view from then been told with attitude you cant view from here!
What made this even more rediculous was that the same Mr Attitudes that moved everyone from these supposive high risk viewing area's then arrogantly watched the event from these same unsafe places as if wearing a "G Speed" T-Shirt exempted them from the same life threatening situations that everyone else faced.

In one simple situation it took a bright official about 45 seconds to put some orange tape up to block the unsafe area near the start gate , After what ? maybe an hour of telling people and making jerks of themselves to move ! How many hours was the event held up telling people where they couldn't watch from ?? I would suggest maybe a fraction of that time before the event taping off unsafe viewing positions would have prevented
a heap of unecessary frustration .

[Lord_Muck]

Unfortunately i could not make it down for the day. But a few awards/trophy's for things such as Best presented, most improved, crowd favourite wouldn't go astray, and a little more prize money.

GTS_313 entrants will have to pay because they are not proffesionals (no offence) and high quality performance can not be guaranteed. Do you think all Metallica concerts get set up for a week beforehand for free? with 6 aeroplanes full of shit, then transporting it to site then constructing it? Think rationally.

TJ - get more optical zoom or hire a cherry picker buddy :)

I would have handed over $5 worth of fold to spectate as it requires money to maintain such a racetrack OR no event. And as for the organizers, they probably sat through hours of lecturing info from the owners of the track and were a little worried about being shafted for more cash if something were to happen. Admittedly they should have done some taping off BEFOREHAND.

There's my 25c worth of outsiders opinion, hope i can get to the next one.

P.S. don't whinge unless you wish to put on an event like this yourselves, if it was piss easy we'd all be doing it.

[TJ]

One thing you have to remember though is that something like afl has 30 000 people paying to watch , this then means players dont need to pay to compete as spectators cover it.

Matt: fair enough, i lost 3rd and 4th gears so was in shit mood when i posted last night

However GTS 313 does have a point, there was smaking double standards from some people wearing clothing of the promoters.

GTS 313 - do you own that white VT GTS ? if so i was told that its one angry car- pm me with some specs.

[FranZ]

My pics from the day: http://files.franzonline.net/images/2004-06-20-GSpeedCollieDriftDay/

My favourite pic from the event:
http://files.franzonline.net/images/2004-06-20-GSpeedCollieDriftDay/DSC07557.JPG


Tom, I'd say you were unfavourable getting any media access because you did arrive later in the morning when organisers/staff were busy trying to get the event running. You probably also didn't speak to the right people before hand. *shrug*

[GTS_313]

Lord_Muck , you can bet your balls mate that metalica dont walk away out of pocket , the promoters pay for all transport and setup costs.
Think rationally, how many drivers especially the ones that are known to put on great shows walked away from yesterdays event VERY out of pocket?

[TJ]

P.S. don't whinge unless you wish to put on an event like this yourselves, if it was piss easy we'd all be doing it.


Oh ,we will be dont you worry about that.

[TJ]

Yeah Franz I spose thats a fair call.

[GTS_313]

teejay , yeah that was my GTS down there , It's angry alright :) it runs a no expense spared southside built 370cu 6.2L , IRS 9" LSD , and a few other trick bits that make driving in a straight line a bit of an exercise .
Most of the details are on www.vtgts.com

Great work Franz :)

[FranZ]

Thanks Joey :)

[ScarifieR]

bah
whinge ppl
5 bucks entry to see what we saw on the day was well worth it
its 5 bucks
are you all poverty stricken?
the track costs well over 600 bucks to have for a day
plus theres other stuff involved beyond that (fire truck canteen etc etc)
people who help dont get paid either and business is business
the winners in the end are the winners they got the prize money and we got to see them do it in style so maybe we could class ourself as winners aswell?
but anyway i think the end result shouldnt of had roy from cred in it
he had no style unlike others who didnt get into the top 3
from the finals i think it should of went
1st Jimmah of course
then 2nd adam because his final effort was VERY good
but the 3rd should have been either nitchski demonace gav or driftmike because those 4 all have the right drift style and dony rely on there mass power to get themselfs sideways
thats my take anyway

[TJ]

Your take is poor on it. Roy had his car sideways sideways all day , gav had mechanicala problems so he didnt have it when it counted, mike mucked up at the wrong time, nithski spun in the finals , so its his own fault. consistency plays a big part in it.

[zeroyon]

I think that ppl need to take into account they dont understand the judging.

As a spectator not knowing how it was judged your perception of who should have come where would be totally different.

[hks-s14]

In regards to competitor entry fees...do you know of any amatuer sport where competitors dont pay to compete/enter?

[Lozzle]

great day, as i said on silwa, it can only get better for WA now!
Woot!

[TJ]

Totally agreed, we need to do something about location.....

[Lord_Muck]

Yer thats where i was trying to go HKS-S14.

Metallica don;t walk away out of pocket because they have been proffesionals for over 30years. Not 18yo's in S13's (doesn't go for everyone, but nothings stopping P platers in S13's is there?)

[GTS_313]

hks-s14 , in short no I dont , in most amatuer sports there is a nominal fee usually between $2.00 & $10.00 , the big difference being that spectators dont pay to attend amatuer events and the competitors aren't normally expected to put their $20.000 plus investements on the line to expose the promoter to some free advertising.

[Jimmah]

Cheers TeeJay, intrepid, FIL, Scarifier.
Was great day, nuthin like tha smell of rubber all day :boink:
Thanks to Mat and Ivan for koping all tha rocks I and others sprayed at em :lol:
Every1 put on a great comp, bumma bout some ppls rides that didn't make it.
Can't wait 4 next 1, I forgot to thank John and Bob from WheelsWorld and
all entrants and spectators.

[TJ]

Charming words from a charming man...

:D

Cheers for ride once again

[hks-s14]

GTS - I understand where you are coming from, but unless people are professional drivers, all forms of motorsport require an entry fee by the driver/team do they not?

Even up at Wanneroo, people are punting around cars worth over $100k (once you factor in the development) and they pay entry fees (which are stupidly high) and spectators pay $15 a head.

Drifting is a cheap form of motorsport, but its not a cheap sport. The Perth drift competitions will probably be even more expensive due to CAMS licensing etc.

[Adsport]

http://www.members.westnet.com.au/adsport/colliedrift/


could say im quite "tyred" after sunday.

[FIL]

hks-s14 , in short no I dont , in most amatuer sports there is a nominal fee usually between $2.00 & $10.00 , the big difference being that spectators dont pay to attend amatuer events and the competitors aren't normally expected to put their $20.000 plus investements on the line to expose the promoter to some free advertising.

your average amateur sporting event doesnt come with around a million bucks worth of insurance (well, at CAMS events anyway, dunno bout Collie, but it's they do have a fairly high level of cover) and a fire crew and ambulance....

my sporting background has been via archery and gridiron.... which blows the insurance theory out of the water, cos the average archery event would be about 15-20 bucks for the day (fairly high consumable's over the day (ie. about a quarter of that is gone by the time you've paid for the targets, faces and trophies).. the average gridiron entry fee was about 2 bucks towards ground hire from each competitor... but the club and the league had a fair bit of sponsorship to cover some of the costs..

in addition to that... the fact that your asked to pay to enter... means that it's easier to judge who's allowed to enter... ie. if your willing to cough up 45 bucks, then you must think you can drift.... if anyone could run for free, then you'd end up with way too many umm... crap drifters :-)

something else to consider..... does anyone know the series entry fee's for the national football leages? or the v8 supercar series? how much did Toyota pay for the right to enter F1 a few years back?

[GTS_313]

hks-s14 & FIL , thanks for the comments guys , please understand I want drifting to become huge in WA , personally and from what I heard yesterday from other spectators it was the most exciting motor sport they have ever seen!

I am trying to get you guys to think outside the circle in much the same way "Flesh wound Productions" did ( crusty demons) They were just a bunch of guys doing what they loved doing and costing them a fortune Just like yesterdays drifters! until one enterprising guy noted the obvious , there was a bunch of people following these dudes around wherever they practised their madness.
In an instant these riders went from Amatuers to highly paid world touring professionals , all because this smart guy said ok lets film what we love doing and sell it to people , then smart promoter says how about we put on a show "like Collie" where we invite everyone we know , all their mates , spread the word on forums , post flyers everywhere etc and we'll charge an entry fee of $25.00
.
He says I'll pay all 17 of you $1500.00 each to do what you do best in front of people , This first event attracted way more people than they ever antisipated , Flesh wound walked away with a tidy profit , the riders went away super stars with money in their pockets and everyone who witnessed the event told everyone they knew how awesome it was.
Video sales went through the roof , people around the country were offering big bucks for the crusty's to appear . Most people are more than aware how successful they have been ever since

So what changed these guys from unpaid and paying amatuers into highly paid professionals touring the world ???? who decides who and when someone becomes a professional drifter ??

Mr smart promoter knows as many of us do who had the goods down at collie , they more than paid their dues and proved to many of us they are worth paying to watch , I would gladly hand over $50 bucks ( I spend more on a burnout) to see that again :)

V8 supercars cant really be compared, those teams are out to spread and sell a product in most cases , be it Holden , Ford or Motor Oil . Toyota did also pay huge amounts of money to enter F1 , they weren't paying because they were desperate to do a few laps , it is an enormous marketing campaign to sell cars.

[TJ]

This is very true, however this sort of thing in WA at least is at least one year away... people will not drive 400km's on a consistant basis to watch it.. it becomes a 60 dollar trip before even paying to watch

[Denver]

Gts all valid point, but as tj highlighted just then, its a new sport, and while in japan it attactes massive sponrsorship, crowds and attendance, in australia espeically it will take a few years to get the kind of crowds that could justify free entry for drivers, and a while before workshops, manufacturers etc etc will get behind it in the way of sponsorship..

honestly, id love to able to rock up in a car professionally prepped by a shop and have a supply of brand new rubber to fry each time out.. who wouldn't, but in reality, most of the sponsorship bucks will go to what gets coverage, and it'll take a while before drifting will make it into the main stream media, ala v8's etc, in short unless its on tv, you have massive issues getting people to pony up dough to pay for your hobby..

[GTS_313]

Thanks teejay , XRW :)
guys dont underestimate how quickly this will catch on , I invited 12 guys down for the event in collie all to spectate , every one of us would be there again next week willing to cough up to support your hobby in the way of higher admission prices. I can also gaurantee more than 12 of us next time!
It would be great to have the day on video /dvd for the heaps of people that missed it and also to get it out there for more people to see.

XRW , great effort btw , just wondering how many times you saw that S bend from both sides :)
Jimmah , bloody awesome mate ! you dont drive a bobcat for a living do you :)
Gav, shame your box threw a leg out of bed , quite a few guys got to see you in real life for a change instead of the well known mpegs :)

[Denver]

gts a lot, itd been a while since any sideways thus why it took me a while to get into a sort of rhythum, need a better setup for it, well lets face it, a car thats meant to do it..

Thanks for the support..

[TJ]

Bunky 3k silvia, get speedworks to smash some running gear in it, rip all the weight out of it , and find a tow car.. should go well.

[C-Red]

Roy had no style? Were you watching the same track?
No-one could argue with Jimmah coming first - his 4 judged laps in the top 10 were easily the class of the field. The others you mention either messed up on the judged laps or just werent on it. Just because Roys car has 350 rear wheel doesnt mean he shouldnt be judged on the same criterea as everyone else - he could drift just as well when his car had 200 rear wheel like all the other 13s down there. Adam was easily the class of that crew - he was hitting the apexes at a lot greater speed than any of the other guys you mentioned.
Drift just like any other sport with subjective judging will always have squabbles over final results. Wait till we've only got 1 judged lap like D1 semi finals.
Jash



but anyway i think the end result shouldnt of had roy from cred in it
he had no style unlike others who didnt get into the top 3
from the finals i think it should of went
1st Jimmah of course
then 2nd adam because his final effort was VERY good
but the 3rd should have been either nitchski demonace gav or driftmike because those 4 all have the right drift style and dony rely on there mass power to get themselfs sideways
thats my take anyway

[TJ]

Its ok Jash, Troy is a bunbury hick .... he knows nothing :)

No one else disagrees with Roys efforts... the footage ive got shows how well he did.
Should be on DVD soon

[upgarage]

:wackit: <-

[Works Auto]

I rekon the the judges did a pretty good job.
apart from not putting me in the top 10.
but shit happens, and its just one of those things, you gotta get over it

At the end of the day the judges decision is final. and you have to respect that.
alot of people are going past the fact,

That its something we do for FUN. yes thats right kiddies, FUN.

Seems some people get too competitive, and dont like it when things go their own way.
I know im just glad events like this are being run, because as alot of you know, im without a license for 18 months, and this is the only place where i can "LEGALLY", do something i enjoy and not get in trouble for it..

Thats My Two Cents.

Ryan-

[C-Red]

I just wish I had more time to practice...
Jash

[TJ]

Its a bit hard when we need to dirve 300km to do so.

[C-Red]

Its a fcken long way innit? Mind you I thoroughly enjoyed the drive back...
Jash

[BassMstr]

Was only a 30 min drive for me from Bunbury...

Was a good day but i think that there should have been more judges on different corners. I was over near the s bends and i saw a few people do very good clean drifts throught the s bends and down the straight towards the hairpin.

There is also the need for better spectator facilities at collie to allow people to see different parts of the track.

All up i think the day was very enjoyable just think that there needs to be better organisation for future events. Drifting is only going to get bigger in WA. Just hope there are the venues to hold the events.....

[TJ]

http://all-torque.xspeed.com.au/brodie/pages/CRW_1274_JFR.html

pic of the day

[zeroyon]

No chance TJ

I think if we are calling Pic's

This would have to be my favourite -->

http://files.franzonline.net/images/2004-06-20-GSpeedCollieDriftDay/DSC07557.JPG

[zeroyon]

I just wish I had more time to practice...
Jash

I wish there was somewhere local to practice .....

[up_in_smoke]

hey can any one tell me exactly where the next drift is???

cheers

[TJ]

At this stage there isnt another one yet....

[upgarage]

whens the airport track gonna hold drift shit

[got boost]

No chance TJ

I think if we are calling Pic's

This would have to be my favourite -->

http://files.franzonline.net/images/2004-06-20-GSpeedCollieDriftDay/DSC07557.JPG

this pic gets my vote too. awesome shit

[Denver]

Tj bunky silvia would be a goer if i had spare coin, but who knows what will happen..

As for the 300k trek to collie, lets face it, its a shit tin better than wanners for dori, wanners has to many long straights between corners, and the only really good series, up the hill and into short track is out of view of the main areas unless you walk around the track to it..

As for the MC complex, next year things might/may happen, it just depends on the track settling, and gras growing and stuff like that, its a new complex give them time to be happy its going to take the hammering, and we'll probally see some love from them

[SmItLeR]

Its a fcken long way innit? Mind you I thoroughly enjoyed the drive back...
Jash
same jash - the drive back was fkn awsome :D :D

[GTS_313]

yeah the drive back had me thinking I was on an A12 cruise :)

[SmItLeR]

At this stage there isnt another one yet....
this saturday 26th $25 whole practice session. track + burnout pad

[Cake]

yeah whos going brad?

*note* its not a drift comp, just a practice day, but you can practice your drift if you want.

[Lord_Muck]

This saturday Smitler? can anyone else confirm this, because i've heard sunday from a few sources, but not sure as there is a Classic Car Rally on the sunday, there is a track they do for that too, been some drifting there before.

[SmItLeR]

i cant confirm this.. but i know its on one of the days.. will probably have to ring collie motorplex up or something to double check

[Lozzle]

this saturday collie is on for teh $25 thingo. see whoever is going there, there! :)

[SmItLeR]

i hope to get my handbrake fixed so i can go :| its friday tomoz so i cant c this happening

[miss_petepie]

this saturday is confirmed. start time is 10am. but rock up when ever u like. $25 for all drivers. They will be holding Burnouts for the V8's and who ever else wants to jump on. at that time all racing is stopped. they will also be having the utes out racing on the track too.. so u will have to be waiting for those too.

[Cake]

video from the comp is up !

http://www.dorifuto.net/events/g-speed_collie_drift_20-06-2004/

[up_in_smoke]

if it aint to much can some one email me....and let me know when the next drift comp is on

up_in_smoke76@hotmail.com

Cheers

[FranZ]

Mid August is apparently the next comp.

Info obtained from a post by Gspeed on SilviaWA forums.