Wheel clamps...

[Muppet_Guy]

Ok, allegedly I parked in the wrong spot in West Perth (long story, cbf explaining that part) and my wheel got clamped. It's a $150 fine to get it off, now being a cheapskate and a total rebel against opportunistic rip-off fines and stuff, I obviously don't wanna pay it, and just wanna drive my car away. Question:

1. Do they write down the rego number? I am thinking of coming over with an angle grinder, shouldn't be that hard to take it off. Any repercussions??

2. Can anyone actually pick that lock?

3. If the above is not possible for any reason, anyone know how long the vehicle can stay clamped in there before they do anything else (more $$, or tow away). I'm thinking I sort of like that prime real estate... nice secure parking, piss off the actual owner of the bay for dobbing me in, by staying there for a couple of days, make the (unt pay for his own parking for the time being.
Any advice (apart from pay the fine) will be appreciated :cool:

[Nemi]

petrol powered 9" grinder man.

cut it and walk away.

Is it at city west ?

[Muppet_Guy]

Nah, it's under an office building on Havelock Street... I just wanna know if they keep a record, don't want to waste the thing and then be fined further for wrecking council property hehe.

[Nemi]

your other option is to use a trolly jack and load it onto a flatbed and take it home and cut it off.

I'm sure gerrin can help

[Nemi]

see I don't know if you are liable for it once its on your car.
you need to find out about laws in regards to it as its not going to be as simple as that.

[Nemi]

oh plates no problem if they are standard plates report your plates stolen and go get new ones they can't prove it was your car if the plates have been reported stolen ;)

[Muppet_Guy]

Hmmm, stolen plates eh? I think we're onto something here.... will think it through, cheers mate!

[Nemi]

personaly id cut the ****er off
even if they have the plates etc they need to prove you personaly cut it off and thats imposible unless they see you doing it.

[TJ]

Or pay the fine, and learn that you shouldnt block people in.

Rudeness in parking disgusts me, Ive been blocked in a couple of times, and the offenders can eat a dick for all i care.

[Muppet_Guy]

If that was the case... I went to a business meeting, was told to park in a specific bay, I parked accidentally (not clear instructions were given to me) in a bay right next to the one I was meant to park in. No I didn't block anyone in, as half the space was full of empty bays just for today (different story tomorrow)...

Doing some legal research now on the legality issue, apparently it has been outlawed in QLD, need to check WA though. I was late to another meeting because of that so yeah. Would anyone know anything about the regulations we have here in WA. Perth City council has just told me as far as they are aware it is not legal to do that, but useless public servants they are, they wouldn't be specific, hmmmm. See, I'd be happy to just pay the fine, but this has cost me time, and embarassment of turning up at an important meeting half an hour late. Sue the bastards for 'vadalism', damages and some other crap I say!

[adrenalin]

Generally the only reason you get clamped is you have overdue fines so i am guessing its not the first fine you have had and have another over due fine.

I know this because my mates car got clamped at Central Tafe carpark and he had a fine from a month ago he didnt pay.

Its not worth ****ing something up.

[Yipes]

just pay the fine, would save the hassle

[Muppet_Guy]

Yeah, had a look at the legality of it more now, there is a code of practice the (unt didn't follow, section 5, subsection d of the code of practice for wheel stamping industry says that the "The vehicle is recorded as having previously breached conditions of use and its owner issued with an infringement notice by the company." If that is not the case then the vehicle cannot be clamped. Basically, didn't get any of this, just clamp straight away. This is the first time I've parked there, they would have had to issue me a fine first time. Gonna dig up more on this hehe. Looks like pretty much what adrenalin just said.

http://rac.com.au/ecar/files/CodeofpracticeFinalversionMay05.pdf

I wouldn't mind paying the fine as much if it wasnt for the fact the d|ckhead immobilised me wrongly. A ticket behind the wiper would have been sufficient.

[adrenalin]

If you have no outstanding parking fines then no you cannot be clamped so ring up the clamping number and say come take clamp off then ask why you have been given a fine as you have no outstanding fines.

We tried to lie our way out but you get told if its previous owner you have to take them to court.

[mitchy]

...I obviously don't wanna pay it...



...I'd be happy to just pay the fine...

??

[Muppet_Guy]

??

I'm just pissed off about that clamping crap that's all. If it was just a fine, I cop it sweet, 28 days to pay. But I have to pay it all now to get my car, which is a little bit different...

[MMM]

yeah ring the ****s up and tell them to take the **** off if thats the law and that havent followed it... personally id chop the **** if it was on my car

[Milhouse]

yeah its a bit different having 28days to pay it, rather than having the car clamped and having to pay the cash then and there to get your car back... some people dont happen to have a spare $150 just lying about...

would be keen to hear the outcome of this, whether they allow the car to be unclamped and give you 21 days or so to pay the fine...

[Dyn4mic]

i got fukn clamped wen i parked at citywest during autosalon fuker rekons hes got my rego and will go to the police if i destror/damage there wheel clamp :( so i fukn just paid it coz it was mums car and dint want letters or legal issues being sent to her, if it was my car on the other hand id just cut the fuker off

P.S i had to pay only $124 for mine still was a waste of money :@
the other way to get it off is claim ur car was broken down there :) then legally they have to unclamp it free of charge! if not take legal action!

[datsqik]

There are places in perth that display wheel clamping zone and therefore clamp straight away.Like automasters car park in northbridge at night.
Dont get mad just get even.

[S_E]

I thought they could only do it if it was on private property? IE: not on the roadside, but would have to be in a parking lot.

[RICEY]

Tow the car away and charge them the same fine to get their clamp back...

[Big Cam]

Cut it off for sure.

For a small fee i may be interested in coming out and hacking it off with a petrol grinder

Imagine to look on their faces to see the car gone and clamp cut in half left in the bay.

[DRKWRX]

ive never seen one of these clamps before but is it possible to take the wheel off and put on the spare? lol otherwise chop that **** off!!!

[[PIG GTS]]

apparently its a big maori dude in a black vy hsv driving around clamping cars he is contracted by the council
you can actually take it off by jacking your car up and letting down your tyre and taking a socket wrench with what ever nut socket and take it off but you need to take a spare wheel so you have something to drive back home on in hand you escape a find and a free wheel clamp

[bodybodyrock]

yea ive seen this big kiwi before when my mates car got clamped, we wernt aobut to argue with him tho

[evil1]

^^^ yes the guy is hugeeee. my advice do as homer simpson just drive and munch your guards up

[Muppet_Guy]

Yeah, now you tell me!!! Yeah it was a big fat maori dude, found his name is Duane Chapman (if anyone wants to know) drove a white VY SS Crewman, with HSV badges WTF?!?! (if anyone wants his license plate, I got it written somewhere)

Gave him absolute sh|t over the phone and when he got there, hmmm, very agressive bloke (understandibly), if it wasn't for the fact he was doing a job, he'd probably break me in half hahaha, I did piss him off though. Just before he got there, I also called his office, his wife picked up, looks like a family business. A$$holes! Either way, I decided I couldn't be fu(ked with stuffing around, arguing with him for 15 minutes, so I got my girlfriend to bribe the (unt when nothing else worked, say the car was hers etc and got off with paying 20 bux cash for his fuel money, whatever... (thanks sweetheart, now gotta buy her someting for the difference hehe) That Code of Conduct, it's voluntary, they can basically do whatever they like in this state, that's what he told me anyway. Still, 20 bux farken! That's one less six-pack for me...

Anyway, cheers for the offer Big Cam, I probably would have taken you up on it :)

[Big Cam]

Good to see you got it sorted, if my car got clamped i would of not even hesitated, would of been on the phone to the boys from work saying bring down the quick cut and the oxy for good measure. Game over 4 the clamp in seconds. Plus it would be good the have made a fake clamp out of it free parking any 1.

[RICEY]

fark im gonna buy me some clamps and make some easy money !!

[Denver]

i wouldn't hesitate five seconds to hit the thing with a grinder, most of the clamping is unlawful, and a lot of the time they sit there and wait for you to come back, a classic example of this, a bunch of mates hit the domino's in NB over from the auto masters for a pizza, walk in and out ten minutes, get back, all cars clamped, like 4-5 of em..

basically they had to fork over a bunch of cash to get the clamps removed, but the whole process is a jip, the wankers at auto masters must be raking in the cash from clamping, as i peg nearly everyone would park int he car park, go into domino's to grab a pizza nd come back to find a clamp..

i might have to don a pair of tights a cape and a petrol grinder like the dude in the uk, who goes around cutting of peoples wheel clamps and saving people the hassle of dealing with what is in essence a bunch of criminals..

From memory the same kiwi dude was a debt collector and a towie amongst other trades, and as one can expect as crooked as they come

[nihilism]

Give me his rego and if i ever see his car i'll give him some of his own back. Obviously too stupid to get a real job.

[brenden]

i saw some clamping going on the other day, and guys filmed the whole thing on their cam. eg front and rear plates, the dash, and the actual clamping event.

[Muppet_Guy]

Give me his rego and if i ever see his car i'll give him some of his own back. Obviously too stupid to get a real job.

Aight, his rego is 1CHN886. It's got a mild bodykit and a hard tray cover where he stores his clamps in. HSV badge on the sideskirts, and yeah, can't remember much more about it... If he's 'working' then he'll have an amber emergency light on the roof.

Yeah, he seemed like a dumba$$ to me... though profitable business to be in, he said he still had to go see 5 other people after me to take the clamps off, 150 bux times X amount of poor people terrorised per day, he's making a packet! Though he probably gets same nasty treatment that I gave him from everybody else, which he obviously rightfully deserves :asshole:

[Joe]

Haha, whats with Maori dudes and these sorta jobs?

The description of the wheel clamping guy sounds exactly like the guy who runs the debt collection agency we use at work ;)

[adrenalin]

You cant deflate the tyres as there is a round disk covering the entire front of your wheel so you dont have access to the bolts + the nozzle.

An serious powered angle grinder would work. End of the day its his job and what he does to make money. You would have to take it up wi th the council to get reimbursed

[RICEY]

Haha, whats with Maori dudes and these sorta jobs?

The description of the wheel clamping guy sounds exactly like the guy who runs the debt collection agency we use at work ;)

Im not smart but i can lift heavy fings :droul:

[pgc]

http://rac.com.au/ecar/files/CodeofpracticeFinalversionMay05.pdf


Nice find.

Thanks....

[Muppet_Guy]

Nah, called the council before, they don't deal with it, neither does the police, neither does anyone else, spent whole afternoon calling places till I found out if it's on private property they can do what they like. I'm sure there's some legal loophole somewhere here that would make it illegal one way or another, but not worth the effort.

The Code of conduct is voluntary, if you start saying "section this and this says this, that is not the case here..." etc he will just say that to you... no point discussing any legal crap with a retard, give him few pennies and he'll piss off. Everyone has their price, this dipsh|t's only worth 20 measly dolallars! :lol:

[180SXTCY]

ur options:

1) pay the fine
2) Bring the angle grind and cut the ****er off...
3) Load it up onto a truck
4) have no car...

[Fryman]

what happens if your car is stupidly low and theres no gap to put the clamp on the wheel ?

actually that may not work...
disregard

[Joe]

What happens if you park your car, and you remove all the wheels and put the car up on bricks??

[RICEY]

rofl it would do the guys head in

omni now has wheel clampers also, a pair of fat white kunts in a white ford wagon from memory.

[Nemi]

no you have a point coz I was looking at those clamps and I doubt you could get one on my driftpig with the arch to tyre gap.

[RICEY]

you could park the car and take all the wheel nutd off so its just sittin there and when he clamps it jack it up and take the wheel with clamp off and put another wheel on and keep doin it till you have all his clamps hahaha

Would need a fair few wheels though, that may pose a problem hahaha

[Muppet_Guy]

Or you could just get some pneumatic suspension that will lift your car up a metre high, and just drive like that with them on, wouldn't be comfortable though...

[Yipes]

or u could just learn from ur mistakes and move on

[wadragracing]

or u could just learn from ur mistakes and move on
That's no fun!

[Joe]

you could park the car and take all the wheel nutd off so its just sittin there and when he clamps it jack it up and take the wheel with clamp off and put another wheel on and keep doin it till you have all his clamps hahaha

Would need a fair few wheels though, that may pose a problem hahaha

I like your thinking!

I dont think they clamp every wheel though do they? It would just be one..

[adrenalin]

Front left usually i see them doing it.

How about someone steals the ****ers keys so you can take it off yourself ... or try pick the lock

[Nickevox]

my mate got his friend to throw a power cord form the deen, then he cut the clamp off the car

[Joe]

Cut off the clamp with the power cord?

[Nickevox]

grinder

[RICEY]

I like your thinking!

I dont think they clamp every wheel though do they? It would just be one..

i MEAN THAT EVERY TIME U TAKE THE WHEEL AND CLAMP AND PUT ANOTHER WHEEL ON THEY WOULD PROBABLY BE DUMB ENOUGH TO KEEP CLAMPING THE NEW WHEEL argh farkin caps cbf retyping hahaha

[Miami]

I think antilag group-buy on wheel clamps is in order. We've got this guy's name and rego...and hey, we can clamp dicks at cruises who rev/crank stereos etc!! :lol:

[Muppet_Guy]

You want his number too Shane? :naughty:

[Niva]

Next time, just drive off....... trust me, it will be funny. :poke:

[jr]

did you reverse lookup his number, post it, i'll look it up

[Muppet_Guy]

He's trading under a company name, Parking Facility Management Pty Ltd, only mobile number 0418 921 692. There's a fax line too, 08 9227 5943. Don't know how to do reverse lookup...

[jr]

that fax number is listed to this name and address maybe you could drive past and check it out, the mobile isnt listed.

FA Fawcett, 16 Russell Avenue NORTH PERTH WA 6006, (map) ,08 92275943
,Exch: BULWER 199 BULWER ST PERTH 6000

[Muppet_Guy]

Hehe, if I see that HSV posing SS I'll egg it. Cheers!

[OneJ]

Did somebody ask for a key?

http://www.supraforums.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=22445
Stolen from supraforums.com.au......

[Muppet_Guy]

That supraforums link not working for me OneJ :(

[FIL]

yeh Nug, Duane was a towie a few years back... dunno if he still is...

[OneJ]

Mmmmmmmm.... yeh i think supraforums is playing up today....
here's a direct link to the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Uv45y6vkcQ

It's a video about bump keys..... can basically open about 90% of locks with around 10 different bump keys. Park there as much as you like and then just take it off. Or take it with.

[Muppet_Guy]

Gotta get myself one of those haha.

[Daniel VR4]

y are there so many different keys? arent all the locks the same if u use 1 bump key? how wud u know which lock frm which key?

[Muppet_Guy]

I think coz different keys are different widths, also looking at the side profile of the key, if the key is cut with the bump going to the right, and the lock has the bump going to the left, you can't really use that one... I dunno, just a guess.

[mys1]

the key has to fit perfectly in the lock still,
i want one !!! :)

[DanWA]

Haha, whats with Maori dudes and these sorta jobs?

The description of the wheel clamping guy sounds exactly like the guy who runs the debt collection agency we use at work ;)

Bluff?

[Evo Stevo]

PPE POSSE says pay fine! Then go back one week later and blow a set of tires out in the car park!

[kneedtotinkle]

BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT! Oh in yo face...

[kneedtotinkle]

p.s. dont f#$k with bluff, generally bluff does that kinda work, security. big boi, 150kg legs like a horse and bald head. tats galore.

[BOSS 290]

Cut the farker off. If you need a quick cut hand saw, pm me. If they want the clamp back throw it through their window.

Bastardry begets bastardry in my books.

[DRKWRX]

someone should start a business cutting them off for half the price of the fine. :lol:

[RICEY]

PPE POSSE says pay fine! Then go back one week later and blow a set of tires out in the car park!

I dont think the wheel clamps guys will care about you doing a burnout in the carpark they dont own hahaha

[Muppet_Guy]

I've done further enquiries with the council and the cops, it is NOT an offence to damage the clamp. It is a private property, and if anything, the clamp owner may sue you for damages, but the cops and council won't get involved, so no fines or anything like that from them coz it has nothing to do with them. So there, that is what I WILL DO if it happens again. And I reckon that's what you should all do if it happens, you're safe :)

[fasers180sxtc]

Well no. You're not safe. They're the fines they have in place for parking in a certain place you're not meant to or longer than you're meant to. Just follow the ****ing rules. You were told the wrong thing by your co-workers so get them to play the bloody fine. It's private property and the fines and enforcements they have in place are of a legal nature.

You guys are right, it is Bluff. He's got a couple of South African guys working with him recording all the license plates etc in some places, ie: City West. I sold them the gear they are using to record the licence plates etc and the cars they clamp they take photo's of as well. So saying the plates were stolen wouldn't work. The only way you can get out of it is if the fine they have in place is deemed excessive, or if it isn't correctly sign posted or the sign's are confusing. City West for example is soooo ****ing obvious. There are signs everywhere and anyone who gets done there is either blind or just being a **** and ignoring the rules. Scitech own the building there and their customers, as well as our (Harvey Norman) customers continuously come up and whinge to us because they had to drive around for 20-30 minutes to find parking because so many people parked there and walked over to harbour town, or parked there and went to the footy or parked there and went to autosalon. Bluff etc were approached by Scitech to watch over the parking areas there and I'm guessing thats what would have happened in the other areas too and for good reason.

If you cut the clamp, they have your car rego and a photo of your car. They COULD take legal procedings to reclaim the monetary value of the fine/cost of damage to the clamp etc, but chances are, Bluff would just hunt you down. No point whinging.


Deano

[Miami]

If you cut the clamp, they have your car rego and a photo of your car. They COULD take legal procedings to reclaim the monetary value of the fine/cost of damage to the clamp etc, but chances are, Bluff would just hunt you down. No point whinging.
Deano

See, this is where it gets interesting. They are a private operator, sub-contracted by the council/building owners to provide a wheel clamping service, and as such enforce council by-laws. Fine, fair enough.

However, to then be recording personal details of vehicles...how exactly are they going to be able to use this information? They are still just a private sub-contractor, with no legal powers, same as private security guards...Once you have paid your fine, what is done with the information they have stored? How/where is it stored? What regulations are they operating under with regards to the collection of that information?

If you WERE to damage a clamp, then their ONLY legal recourse would be to apply to sue you for damages through the courts, provide your details, and leave it to the police to follow-up on them. To even pose the threat of "hunting you down" then becomes nothing more than extortion...which is what his whole operation appears to sit on the borderline of being anyways. What exactly is he going to do when he "hunts you down"??? He has NO legal powers whatsoever.

The fact that SoarerGuy was able to get his GF to talk the guy into removing the clamp for a negotiable fee is dubious...the fact that the council is appearing to try and wipe their hands of him as an operator is dubious...I can completely understand why this sort of operation/practice has been banned in other states. He is operating under a non-enforceable code of conduct, without any set regulations with regards to what fines must be paid etc...

I was serious when I suggested reporting this entire setup to the media, get the feeling that with the right amount of squealing some very dodgy business practices may be exposed...especially if we begin talking about Perth City Council...

Dont for one second think that I dont agree with parking regulations being enforced, I do...but it appears highly hypocritical to be enforcing council by-laws and regulations to the letter using an operation that is not governed by any rules or regulations itself...there is a difference between council-employed rangers/parking inspectors, and sub-contracted borderline extortionists...

[fasers180sxtc]

Yeah, agree totally. It's totally piss poor that these people have to be employed to monitor such things, but alas, it has to be done.

I don't think I got my point across correctly. I didn't mean that by having your details on record they had any recourse or ability to issue a more substantial fine or go further with legal procedings. I meant they would have to sue. They COULD sue for the monetary value of the fine and the damages to the clamp. Chances of that happeneing like I said are slim, as they probably would take their own payback. I'm not condoning this, but it has to be expected.


Deano

[mc68]

well so save being caught, if they dont have their spies watching you cut yours off and all the others off in the parking lot......

good samaritan and theres too many suspects for the dumb kiwi's and yarpies to worry about :P

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/3112670.stm

[Muppet_Guy]

Deano, I totally agree with you mate, it's wrong to park in places you're not supposed to. What I don't agree with is the wheel-clamping bit. Fine, stick a fine behind the wiper, give me 28 days to pay, the usual, don't farken terrorise me though with the clamp! The fine is legal yes, sort of (read below to see what I mean by sort of). But the clamp is a grey area. If you read the code, only repeat offenders are meant to be clamped.

Now from a legal point of view, let me clarify something for yous all! Duane (or bluff, whatever he calls himself) isn't hired by the council, only by a private party. I believe the reason why he puts clamps on and takes the money straight away is because the actual fine he puts on your car is NOT enforced by the Fines Enforcement Registry. It's a private fine, let's just say. Any case of non-payment WILL NOT be pursued by the Fines Enforcement Registry, which means non-payment WILL NOT cause a driver's license suspension. Any case of non-payment (not that this happens, since gullible people like me pay up there and then coz they are not aware of this) is a private legal matter.

Assume he would just give a fine to people. It's not enforced by the govt, he doesn't have that luxury. He would have to take you to court over a $150 fine, mate, it ain't worth it for him. He knows that, that's why he relies on people not knowing their rights and the laws there and then, and clamps them to make them pay on the spot so he doesn't have to worry about recovering that money later. The local council by-laws (I have checked this by the way) which state that there are fines in certain private carparks (they're usually quoted on the 'no unauthorised parking' signs), if you actually read it, they merely state that the private parking owner has the right to fine offenders. However that is as far as the by-laws go, there's no responsibility on behalf of any govt body to enforce it, it's the private operator that worries about this stuff.

How much does a wheel clamp cost? Dunno, but let's just say 100 bux (some1 correct me if I'm wrong). Plus $150 unpaid fine. That's $250 he can sue you for. Firstly he'll be waiting a while for a court date. Secondly, it won't be worth it for him to waste his time in court if he can clamp three or four people in the meantime. More and more of an argument to cut the fu(kin thing off and drive away. Scitech for example doesn't get any proceeds from the fine, only Duane does. Ask yourself, if you clamp something like 20 cars per day @ $150 each, are you going to waste your time and lose a guaranteed another 500 bux over an unpaid $150 fine. I wouldn't...

Ok, he can hunt you down... so what are you saying then? What's he gonna do? Clamp me on my driveway?! :coocoo:

P.S. the place I parked, there was only one sign in the very front of the building, right next to the 3 for lease signs, and no signs inside the actual car park... not obvious at all!

[Muppet_Guy]

Scitech own the building there and their customers, as well as our (Harvey Norman) customers continuously come up and whinge to us because they had to drive around for 20-30 minutes to find parking because so many people parked there and walked over to harbour town, or parked there and went to the footy or parked there and went to autosalon. Bluff etc were approached by Scitech to watch over the parking areas there and I'm guessing thats what would have happened in the other areas too and for good reason.

Now how would he know where each person that parked there has gone to???

[Muppet_Guy]

Yeah, agree totally. It's totally piss poor that these people have to be employed to monitor such things, but alas, it has to be done.

I don't think I got my point across correctly. I didn't mean that by having your details on record they had any recourse or ability to issue a more substantial fine or go further with legal procedings. I meant they would have to sue. They COULD sue for the monetary value of the fine and the damages to the clamp. Chances of that happeneing like I said are slim, as they probably would take their own payback. I'm not condoning this, but it has to be expected.


Deano

Now how would they know who I am and where I live if they just got the license plate details? Someone working inside the DPI for them or something? So what, they gonna come to my house and take physical revenge of some sort? I say this looks like a perfect opportunity for a sting operation! :asshole: What's TT's number? :wave:

[fasers180sxtc]

This guy obviously gets around. He probably wouldn't have to hunt you down, nor would he go out of his way to find you in all honesty. Perth is a small city and there isn't that many places to park really. Ie: We have pictures and names etc of dodgy pricks that come into work and try to use fake credit cards/ID to get laptops/phones and **** and we pass them around to the other stores. You wouldn't believe how many people get caught because of this. Word of mouth travels and I'm sure Duane would have plenty of "friends" in the business. There isn't that many people that would go about cutting a clamp off. Say 1 a fortnight at max? Thats not THAT many cars to remember when you have a pic and licence details.

I'm not arguing the fact that wheel clamping is "dubious" at best, but cutting it off and expecting to get away clean and clear... hmmm, now thats pretty "dubious" to me.


Deano

[RICEY]

Did you get a reciept when you paid the clamp removal fee? Im curious as to how much of the proceeds are declared to the tax dept.

[Muppet_Guy]

Yeah I got an invoice. Fu(k knows, for all I know, being in dodgy business like that, maybe he's dodgy in other respects too. Now that you've mentioned it, I'd be curious myself hehe, probably none! How would you check that sh|t though, the tax office wont tell you...

Deano, I don't use public car parks, not the paid ones anyway. That time I got clamped was a one off as I don't usually travel in my own car for work purposes. I got my own bay at work in CBD in a secure building with a gate. I use it weekdays, weekends, whenever. There would be no way they would clamp me or fine me, or get me in that way. Unless they vandalise my car, I'll come off clean. I've made up my mind now, if it happens again, I guarantee it that I will cut it off. The more people do it the better. He's making a bloody fortune off that (150 bux times 20 cars per day, you do the sums) If only no-body actually complied with his sh|t, he'd go bankrupt really quickly. :boink:

[RICEY]

How would you check that sh|t though, the tax office wont tell you...


An anonymous call to the tax dept saying you have suspicions that this guy isnt declaring all his earnings and Im pretty sure they would jump on him hahaha

[evil1]

you would hope they would, apparently its a $1000 dollar pay out to whoever can dob someone in